maakhiri1 Posted July 5, 2021 It will be few months and Kabul will fall. It is also highly likely US will work with Taliban. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 5, 2021 This is one video, there are dozens like this, happening all over Afghanistan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted July 5, 2021 These are the so called army trained by USA for 20 years. This is the biggest failure of American foreign policy. This is the result of international policy led neocons who have only short term goals to crush their previewed enemy. From Iraq to Syria and Yemen , and now in Afghanistan the USA has failed miserably. If they left as soon as they defeated the Taliban and come things would have been different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted July 5, 2021 Taliban is taking over American weapons without a fight. Soon they will be a well armed government. Kabul will be a cake walk. Happy 4th July USA or what ever is left with that old empire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AbdillahiSamatar Posted July 5, 2021 The Taliban are smart and they know how to hide from those menacing spy satellites that can see through thick concrete. Taliban tunnels underneath the Afghan soil have save them numerous times. United States even dropped the mother of all bombs in an attempt to weaken their hideouts. Cleary it did not work and the Taliban are as strong as ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 6, 2021 Afghanistan: Soldiers flee to Tajikistan after Taliban clashes WWW.BBC.COM More than 1,000 soldiers retreat to Tajikistan as fighting with the militants intensifies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted July 6, 2021 I don't see any soldiers with uniform here unless the BBC is peddling something else. The strange thing is the Taliban are overrunning or taking over where the opposition against them was stronger. Northern Afghanistan is the stronghold of Tajiks and Uzbeck minorities who were the backbone of the northern alliance that defeated the Taliban. If they take over there without a fight, Kandahar and Bashtun country side might even welcome with flowers. Furthermore, the idea of targeting any religious movement by America is going to end. It was never about freedom or against religious fundamentalism. If that was the case, the most oppressive and corrupt Wahabi kingdom of Saidi Arabia could have been the target. Also, how about the Hindu fundamentalists who might kill you if they find a meat in your kitchen. We all hope that the Taliban had learned few things since then about moderation in faith and life. As our prophet said, ' moderation is the best of affairs'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 6, 2021 Galbeedi, video version of BBC news Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted July 7, 2021 Kibir, kas iyo yasid ayaa ka dhadhansan karaa warka hoose: Afghan anger over US’s sudden, silent Bagram departure US forces plunged their main operating base in Afghanistan into darkness and abandoned it to looters when they slipped away in the middle of the night after two decades at the site without notifying their Afghan allies. The furtive departure from Bagram airbase, which is vital to the security of Kabul and holds about 5,000 mostly Taliban prisoners, infuriated the Afghans. Many saw it as emblematic of a withdrawal they say is being carried out entirely to fit an American political schedule, with no heed for the collapsing security situation on the ground. “People are saying: ‘The Americans didn’t ask Afghans about coming here, and they didn’t consult Afghans about leaving’,” said one senior official. Much of northern Afghanistan, once an anti-Taliban stronghold, has fallen to the group in the last two weeks, and the militants have made substantial advances across the rest of the country. Afghanistan has just over 400 districts, and the Taliban now hold nearly half, and are fighting for many more. The new commander of Bagram airbase, Gen Mir Asadullah Kohistani, only discovered the Americans’ had gone several hours after their 3am departure. “We did not know of their timeline for departure. They did not tell us when they left,” the commander said during a tour of the evacuated and now-looted base. “We [heard] some rumour that the Americans had left Bagram … and finally by 7am we understood that it was confirmed,” Kohistani told the Associated Press. They had turned off the electricity on the way out, and the sudden darkness served as a signal to the looters, said Abdul Raouf, a soldier of 10 years who has also served in Taliban strongholds of Helmand and Kandahar provinces. The looters entered from the north, smashing through the first barrier, ransacking buildings, loading anything that was not nailed down into trucks, he told the AP. Another soldier said the US forces’ stealthy departure had thrown away 20 years of goodwill. Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said on Tuesday that the exact moment of the departure “was not divulged for operational security purposes. In general we felt it was better to keep that information as closely held as possible.” He added: “It’s not a statement about whether we trust or don’t trust our Afghan partners.” Kohistani said the US left behind 3.5m objects, all itemised by the departing military. They include tens of thousands of water bottles, energy drinks and military ready-made meals. They also include thousands of civilian vehicles, many of them without keys to start them, and hundreds of armoured vehicles. Kohistani said the US also left behind small weapons and the ammunition for them, but the departing troops took away heavy weapons and destroyed ammunition for those weapons. The Guardian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhagaxtuur Posted July 7, 2021 It would probably be the same in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Dhagaxtuur said: It would probably be the same in Somalia. I doubt, shabaab are not nationalistic They don't even like Somali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhagaxtuur Posted July 7, 2021 ^the only thing stopping Shabaab taking is the foreign powers. Second they leave, they will be a power. Don't delude yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aroori Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 5:37 AM, galbeedi said: It was never about freedom or against religious fundamentalism. Exactly, the citizens of both countries suffered greatly from this unnecessary war, but the military industrial complex lined their pockets with green as usual. God only knows how much money made by Halliburton, Raytheon, Lockheed ... etc. I heard china is moving quick to take advantage of the situation, they already pledged $62B to build infrastructure, mainly as part of their Belt and Road Initiative. Aside from china's colonization through debt tactic, throwing that much money at the Taliban might be more effective than armed conflict. bribing savages is an effective means of control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites