General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Welcome to the Muslim World. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Abu Dhabi, the richest city on Earth Burj Khalifa tallest building on Earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 12, 2010 Despite his hatred of Arabs or Muslims, peacenow has valid points to present, if he would only make case intelligently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Muslim History gave the west.. In English, the term Arabic numerals can be ambiguous. It most commonly refers to the numeral system widely used in Europe and the Americas. Arabic numerals is the conventional name for the entire family of related systems of Arabic and Indian numerals. It may also be intended to mean the numerals used by Arabs, in which case it generally refers to the Eastern Arabic numerals. The Islamic Golden Age or the Islamic Renaissance,[1] is traditionally dated from the 8th to 13th centuries A.D.,[2][3] but has been extended to at least the 15th century by recent scholarship.[4] During this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to agriculture, the arts, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own.[5] Howard R. Turner writes: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and laborers together made a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent." [5] Dear Peacenow what was the state of your beloved Europe then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Che, he is misinformed and is being emotive.. Institutions A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[15] and psychiatric hospital,[16] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[15] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[17] The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[18] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[19] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd ("license to teach and issue legal opinions") in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[20] By the 10th century, Cordoba had 700 mosques, 60,000 palaces, and 70 libraries, the largest of which had 600,000 books. In the whole al-Andalus, 60,000 treatises, poems, polemics and compilations were published each year.[21] The library of Cairo had two million books,[22] while the library of Tripoli is said to have had as many as three million books before it was destroyed by Crusaders. The number of important and original medieval Arabic works on the mathematical sciences far exceeds the combined total of medieval Latin and Greek works of comparable significance, although only a small fraction of the surviving Arabic scientific works have been studied in modern times.[23] For instance, Jamil Ragep, an historian of science from McGill University, says that 'less than 5% of the available material has been studied.'[24] A Russian historian gives an idea of the numerical quantity of these manuscripts and works always findable: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peacenow Posted January 12, 2010 Cowke has made a excellent today. He said: Peacenow, most somalis view whatever arabs do they must do themselves. It is something I am totally against, however the fact is that is the prevailing attitude on the ground. Therefore my friend you will be what you are depending on who you look up to. If you look up to arabs, you won't go and advance any further then a backward arab. The arab however is quite smart, they themselves look up to the west and hire contractors from that part of the world to build their nation for them, that is purely the only reason why they advanced in the arabian pennisula. Sudan is a classical example of african muslims who are starting to realize the "arab" copy cat behaviour has held their ppl backwards for to long and they are breaking out and bringing chinese firms and other asian firms to help them build their country. Good on them I Say!!! The arab league has spent nothing on somalis, if anyone has helped the somalis during these tough times it is the african union and the U.N. The arab league is nowhere to be seen when you are in tough time, they totally abadon you. That is not someone that I call a friend. However most somalis do, which is a shame!!! But there is hope the younger generation are starting to realize where their interests lie. GD you show all these buildings. But without their oil where would they be? That new tower was built by a South Korean company and the workers are no doubt Indians. All they did was just handover the money. If they were clever they would demand a local joint venture, demand technological transfer of know how, build their corporate capacity and use this new company to build their country, so they don't rely on others anymore. Yes the Emiratis have a shiny new building but adeer ask yourself, who really benefits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 ^^lool There was no oil when they invented the Mathematics the world uses and the first, Public Hospital, Library and Universities.. But you only hear your own words.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Lily- Posted January 12, 2010 Duke, you need to separate the Arab world from being a Musilm, they make up only 18% of the world’s Muslims and to be honest they dont really represent the ideal anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 South East Asia Jakarta, capital of the worlds largest Muslim nation [Istanbul Turkey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Lily You are right, the Muslim world is not just Arab, I am just showing our brother that Muslims are not all that poor as he makes out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Africa Abuja, Nigeria Mali, the home of the Mansas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas_Bruv Posted January 12, 2010 Originally posted by Peacenow: Cowke has made a excellent today. He said: Peacenow, most somalis view whatever arabs do they must do themselves. It is something I am totally against, however the fact is that is the prevailing attitude on the ground. Therefore my friend you will be what you are depending on who you look up to. If you look up to arabs, you won't go and advance any further then a backward arab. The arab however is quite smart, they themselves look up to the west and hire contractors from that part of the world to build their nation for them, that is purely the only reason why they advanced in the arabian pennisula. Sudan is a classical example of african muslims who are starting to realize the "arab" copy cat behaviour has held their ppl backwards for to long and they are breaking out and bringing chinese firms and other asian firms to help them build their country. Good on them I Say!!! The arab league has spent nothing on somalis, if anyone has helped the somalis during these tough times it is the african union and the U.N. The arab league is nowhere to be seen when you are in tough time, they totally abadon you. That is not someone that I call a friend. However most somalis do, which is a shame!!! But there is hope the younger generation are starting to realize where their interests lie. GD you show all these buildings. But without their oil where would they be? That new tower was built by a South Korean company and the workers are no doubt Indians. All they did was just handover the money. If they were clever they would demand a local joint venture, demand technological transfer of know how, build their corporate capacity and use this new company to build their country, so they don't rely on others anymore. Yes the Emiratis have a shiny new building but adeer ask yourself, who really benefits? Cowke thinks his rants and opinions are scientific facts. If i were you i wouldn't get too excited about the jibberish above. To give an example, Sudanese Muslims are as Arab as they have always been and they are still part of the AL. Cowkes point is flawed right there.That they are doing Business with China, is, infact something which is happening all across Africa due to the resurgence of the sleeping Dragon. If Somalia was stable, Chinese would be flooding in too, though some Africans would say China represents another form of neo-colonisation. It has little to do with Arabism or politics. Business is Business. See, your problem is that you see Arabs as political objects of emotional hate, rather than a diverse group of human beings, with some great,good and bad apples. Fabregas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baluug Posted January 12, 2010 It would probably be better if you didn't use as an example buildings that were built upon the exploitation and near-slave labour of fellow Muslims(Burj Khalifa), Dukey, but yeah I agree Peacenow needs to realize that the Muslim and Arab world aren't all homeless immigrants scraping the bottom of the barrel. Every society has their good and bad, rich and poor, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 North Africa, Maghrib Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 12, 2010 Khartoum, Sudan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites