Qatari special envoy Mutlaq bin Majed Al-Qahtani arrives in Mogadishu

[Che -Guevara]

5 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

Says a dude whose half of his own folks confusedly claim to be descendants from Xabashi habar and the other half in their inferiority complexity claiming to be the rejected sons of Qureysh. The rest soo hartayna habro la baxay. Have you no shame?

At least Reer Koonfur Galbeed know meeshee ka soo jeedaan iyo dadkee u dhasheen and will never claim none other than Soomaalinimo.

By the way, Afmaxaatirigaan aad ku hadashid adigoo shisheeyo aan ku rabin sheeganaayo Afmaay ayaa dhalay Afmaxaagaan.

LOL 

[Duufaan]

Xaaji

The xabashi part is fake. She must be Oromo instead.  Pure Amxaara has distintic DNA. 

[maakhiri1]

The pot calling the kettle black, most major tribes  are gaashaanbuur., have you not seen latest paternal DNA  results, Neither H blocks, nor Duriya share common father too.it is all fairytale,  It really created big confusion, please  visit ftdna somali groups, how Somalilanders really confused about ther paternal line same match Oromos, some common with Dirta like gudabiirsi, some match H block and some their arch enemy D block ,  atleast MMA folks.know they are gaashaanbuur. So far have not seen any Hashemite match. Mostly they are DIr.

The only group that really stand 100% proven to  descend from a single common recent ancestry  are D block.

Salaah  have also posted here these results before. 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

2 hours ago, Duufaan said:

Xaaji

The xabashi part is fake. She must be Oromo instead.  Pure Amxaara has distintic DNA. 

Nonsense she was an abbissinian princess  abtiirsiintu ma qaldanto there were no oromo or gallas in the 12 century in the horn. 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

2 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

The pot calling the kettle black, most major tribes  are gaashaanbuur., have you not seen latest paternal DNA  results, Neither H blocks, nor Duriya share common father too.it is all fairytale,  It really created big confusion, please  visit ftdna somali groups, how Somalilanders really confused about ther paternal line same match Oromos, some common with Dirta like gudabiirsi, some match H block and some their arch enemy D block ,  atleast MMA folks.know they are gaashaanbuur. So far have not seen any Hashemite match. Mostly they are DIr.

The only group that really stand 100% proven to  descend from a single common recent ancestry  are D block.

Salaah  have also posted here these results before. 

Nonsense again there are maakhiri folks that don't share a common ancestor with the mjs. For at least 10.000 years. 2 can play that game. 

[Che -Guevara]

13 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Nonsense she was an abbissinian princess  abtiirsiintu ma qaldanto there were no oromo or gallas in the 12 century in the horn. 

Where were they?

[Che -Guevara]

13 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Nonsense again there are maakhiri folks that don't share a common ancestor with the mjs. For at least 10.000 years. 2 can play that game. 

That's unlikely but even if they didn't, there is nothing wrong with that.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

3 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Where were they?

Not in Ethiopia there was an oromo migration that started from Tanzania and parts of South Sudan. 

[galbeedi]

On 5/9/2021 at 4:36 AM, Tallaabo said:

Xaajiyoow what is stopping these clans from collaborating to be more effective and powerful instead of being taken for granted by whoever is in power? 

Talaabo, 

What is stopping the Reer Woqoyi or the D....r group for being effective and seek the highest office in Somalia?. Every group has 61 votes.

At least the South West community is well grounded by flowing a logic. They don't gamble like most Somalis and are waiting to take their real power when one man one vote is implemented. They already hold the parliament speaker position without contest and soon they will be moving to the other places.

Yet, there are  couple of  major political, economic and cultural factor that might impede their ascension to the highest office or to run for president.

First the cultural aspect:

They are not greedy or pretenders like most  people who who throws themselves to the arena if they are not sure of winning. Look at the  15 member HAG pretenders who are all running for president. Half of them might not even get 5 votes, yet they are polluting the airwaves. Why waste your resources if your chances are law.

Second, to run for president in Somalia, you must have foreign backed money or reasonably working regional administration like Puntland. Late President C/laahi Yusuf used Puntland resources to seek the top job. The South West region is still a new born. Probably the late Shaati Gaduud who was different than the current crop could have done it. 

Also, as decent Somalis, they didn't master the idea of allying themselves with the colonial powers. A friend of mine from Burco once told me, " waar qolyihiinan reer Galbeedka iyo HAG ta lafteedu ma geli karaan hawlaha anaga iyo D block and ku dhaqaaqno, haday dantu kalifto Axmaar baad sheegaysaaye cid kast ayaanu keeni"  HAG waa reera fawdo,laakiin D block iyo Habrahu waa khatar joogta ah, wax walba ka filo.

Furthermore, the Mogadishu factor has to be eliminated for the future elections and plain field Somali leadership. Look at the UNaka boys, in 2012 four out the top six were from them. How could you campaign while fearing from the local bombers, both Alshabaab and the freelance criminals?

I am waiting the day real democracy is implemented in Somalia. Those who fear the real Somali vote is those who are pretending to be big tribes. One man one vote will be a new down in Somalia. Even in Somaliland ballot stuffing and  fraud mostly happens in Burco and Hargeisa. Why? because of fear of losing.

If voting takes place in Puntland today ,20%  of the elected members could be from those who hail from South West and other places  .Not one single mayor was elected directly in Somalia so far including Puntland and Somaliland who are peaceful.

Xaaji ,I am telling you,  be very afraid of democracy.

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

1 hour ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Not in Ethiopia there was an oromo migration that started from Tanzania and parts of South Sudan. 

Tanzania is unlikely. You are parading Amhara extremists. Considering their linguistic and cultural connection with Somalis, Sidama, and Afars along with other nations within the Horn, Oromos are not recent migrants. They are part and parcel of the Horn. 

If anything, it is Amharas and Tigrean [Sabeans] who are new to the region. Habeshas are mixed themselves with a lot of Oromo influx. 

 

[galbeedi]

1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:

If anything, it is Amharas and Tigrean [Sabeans] who are new to the region. Habeshas are mixed themselves with a lot of Oromo influx. 

The Amhara and Tigray showed up in Ethiopia as early as 1887. They are northern tribes who populated northern highlands. They used to occupy 20% or less of the current Ethiopian map.

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

9 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Tanzania is unlikely. You are parading Amhara extremists. Considering their linguistic and cultural connection with Somalis, Sidama, and Afars along with other nations within the Horn, Oromos are not recent migrants. They are part and parcel of the Horn. 

If anything, it is Amharas and Tigrean [Sabeans] who are new to the region. Habeshas are mixed themselves with a lot of Oromo influx. 

 

Amhara and tigrayans have been in the horn for over 3000 years. Even if we have to believe the sabean himriyats influx in the horn which is debatable. How ever the gallas have never been recorded before the 15 century in the horn the first time they were mentioned was in the 15 century. Why do you think the emirs of harar built the harar wall it was to keep the gallas out.. Somalis share more with afar beja saho.  But nothing with gallas.. You are right that the amhara have mixed with the gallas unfortunatly. Particularly in shewa and the tulema. 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

10 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Talaabo, 

What is stopping the Reer Woqoyi or the D....r group for being effective and seek the highest office in Somalia?. Every group has 61 votes.

At least the South West community is well grounded by flowing a logic. They don't gamble like most Somalis and are waiting to take their real power when one man one vote is implemented. They already hold the parliament speaker position without contest and soon they will be moving to the other places.

Yet, there are  couple of  major political, economic and cultural factor that might impede their ascension to the highest office or to run for president.

First the cultural aspect:

They are not greedy or pretenders like most  people who who throws themselves to the arena if they are not sure of winning. Look at the  15 member HAG pretenders who are all running for president. Half of them might not even get 5 votes, yet they are polluting the airwaves. Why waste your resources if your chances are law.

Second, to run for president in Somalia, you must have foreign backed money or reasonably working regional administration like Puntland. Late President C/laahi Yusuf used Puntland resources to seek the top job. The South West region is still a new born. Probably the late Shaati Gaduud who was different than the current crop could have done it. 

Also, as decent Somalis, they didn't master the idea of allying themselves with the colonial powers. A friend of mine from Burco once told me, " waar qolyihiinan reer Galbeedka iyo HAG ta lafteedu ma geli karaan hawlaha anaga iyo D block and ku dhaqaaqno, haday dantu kalifto Axmaar baad sheegaysaaye cid kast ayaanu keeni"  HAG waa reera fawdo,laakiin D block iyo Habrahu waa khatar joogta ah, wax walba ka filo.

Furthermore, the Mogadishu factor has to be eliminated for the future elections and plain field Somali leadership. Look at the UNaka boys, in 2012 four out the top six were from them. How could you campaign while fearing from the local bombers, both Alshabaab and the freelance criminals?

I am waiting the day real democracy is implemented in Somalia. Those who fear the real Somali vote is those who are pretending to be big tribes. One man one vote will be a new down in Somalia. Even in Somaliland ballot stuffing and  fraud mostly happens in Burco and Hargeisa. Why? because of fear of losing.

If voting takes place in Puntland today ,20%  of the elected members could be from those who hail from South West and other places  .Not one single mayor was elected directly in Somalia so far including Puntland and Somaliland who are peaceful.

Xaaji ,I am telling you,  be very afraid of democracy.

 

 

 The reason why the Dr cannot win anything is because. Simply Somaliland doesn't participate in Somalia politics what so ever. The Southern dir have it then bad unfortunate for them. Because their 30 seats in the South cidlay ku dhacayaan. And the one in the North iyaguna wa calooshood u shaqeystayaal they don't represent any one. Thats why they are always 3rd of 4rd.  Besides dad aan waxba isku ahayn ba afka  la isku geliyey. The awdalite and the jesus folks and the duriyad are some how related and share same customs and traditions and there is allot of kinship woqoyism. Bal qolooyinka koonfurians meel ku sheeg.  Adigu. As for the South Western clan I think iyaga is naquusay isma aaminsana. Kalsoonidu wa wax aad u muhiim. They have no confidence what's so ever.  I agree with you the democracy dad badan bu fashilinayaaa. 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

18 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

The pot calling the kettle black, most major tribes  are gaashaanbuur., have you not seen latest paternal DNA  results, Neither H blocks, nor Duriya share common father too.it is all fairytale,  It really created big confusion, please  visit ftdna somali groups, how Somalilanders really confused about ther paternal line same match Oromos, some common with Dirta like gudabiirsi, some match H block and some their arch enemy D block ,  atleast MMA folks.know they are gaashaanbuur. So far have not seen any Hashemite match. Mostly they are DIr.

The only group that really stand 100% proven to  descend from a single common recent ancestry  are D block.

Salaah  have also posted here these results before. 

Maakhir, they are nothing called gaashaanbuur. Soomaalida maryooleey waxey isku qaldaayaan dadka Reer Koonfur Galbeed u yaqaanaan 'geegii mariidi' iyo qabaa'ilada Koonfur Galbeed.

Qabaa'ilada Koonfur Galbeed wey jireen, xiriir dhalasho iyo deegaan ayaa ka dhaxeeyo sida xiriir dhalasho iyo deegaan ugu dhaxeeyo qabaa'ilada kale ee Soomaaliyeed. Reer Canjeex iyo Reer Xaayoow wax dhalasho ka dhaxeeyo iska yar laakiinse waxee ku bidooween ururka magaciisa Afmaay ah oo Waaberi lagu dhaho Afmaxaatiri. Inaa magaca qabiilka ee ku midoobeen sheego ma rabi. Qabiil walba saas ugu midoobeen, xataa kaa ka dhalatay ee ku midoobeen Reer Nugaal, Sool, Bari iyo Sanaag oo magaciisa asagana erey Afmaay ah oo Nin laga wado.

Tusaale kale qabiilka Beledweyne dego iyo kan degmada Goldogob ee Mudug dego laba 'ood' ayee u kala xaroodaan yet waxaa la dhahay waa isku farac meel ka soo jeedo. Qabiilka Shariif Sh Axmed abtirsigiisa iyo kuwa Baran iyo deegaanada kale ee Sanaag dego abtirsigooda waa isku mid, again laba 'ood' ayee u kala xaroodaan.

Aan u soo noqdo ereyada aan kor ku sheegay ee 'geegii mariidi.' Ereyadaan waa Afmaay, waxaana laga wadaa dadka aan asalkooda ahayn Koonfur Galbeed laakiin soo degay, qaatayna dhaqanka qabaa'ilada Koonfur Galbeed ee la degnaayeen. Qabiilo meesha deganaa ayaa 'sharci' dhalasho siiyey iyagoo og meeshee ka soo jeedaan. Sababta loo siiyeyna waxee ahayd waa inay ka magan galaan oo la dhibaateen, diyadana laga bixiyo, iyagana bixiyaan. Geegii mariidi waxaa laga wadaa waayadii hore oo loola jeedo meeshee waayadii hore ka soo jeedaan.

Awoowgey hooyadey dhalay ayaaba ka mid ahaa dadkaan camal. Dagaaladii iyo colaadii Sayidka iyo Daraawiishta ayee ka soo carareen asaga iyo reerkiisa bilowgii qarnigii 20aad. Qabridahare, Soomaali Galbeed, ayee ka imaadeen, waxeena soo degeen Waajid, Bakool, uu ku wada dhalay ilmihiisa. Qabiilkiisa wuu heystay laakiin diyo iyo waxyaabahaas haddee imaatana qabiilka Waajid degan la qeybsan jiray.

[Che -Guevara]

MMA,

You are trying to educate people who don't even know the composition of reer Koonfur Galbeed, people who believe they descended from some phantom runaway desert dweller.