DigibAc Posted January 25, 2007 Well well well! It seems Mr. Barack Hussein Obama (Hussein? Osama? I know those names!) has something to hide! I can imagine the democrats now... it's down to Obama and Clinton; all the liberals are like "wow, we're so progressive, a woman and a black guy nominated for president" and the rest of the party is like "damn, those ******* republicans are gonna beat us again". Here is the artical: Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage? This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama. An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia. "He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign." When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama’s press secretary said he would consult with “his boss” and call back. He did not. Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education. "The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive." In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"—Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school." The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public. His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama’s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya. Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents. The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims. Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam. Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago’s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner. "Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks." The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii. "Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient." In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian—although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular. In “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home. Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...." In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables." Source: Insight, Jan 22, 2007 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Nomadique- Posted January 25, 2007 Now they think that Obama's "muslim past" is enough to discredit him. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted January 25, 2007 ^^^ The world? I've never heard the good people of Bolivia say one single bad word about Islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Nomadique- Posted January 25, 2007 ^ No need to be so particular it is very late here and my brain is shutting down. . Anyways all fixed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharmarkee Posted January 25, 2007 ^^ In Zionised America, and few other places not the wider world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 25, 2007 ^^^I disagree. Would you wanna have someone whose middle name is Mengistu as the head of the Somali. I reckon, not. Their concerns are unfortunate, but at the same time valid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Nomadique- Posted January 25, 2007 This is seriously not coming from a person who calls himself Che Guevara is it? Osama Obama? There is a harsh joke about Somalia though lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cara. Posted January 25, 2007 ^^That a boy under 10 might have been "exposed" to Islam is a valid concern? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms DD Posted January 25, 2007 Originally posted by Che-Guevara: ^^^I disagree. Would you wanna have someone whose middle name is Mengistu as the head of the Somali. I reckon, not. Their concerns are unfortunate, but at the same time valid. So the problem is a nationality and not religion? So why are they making fuss over his previous faith? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharmarkee Posted January 25, 2007 Originally posted by Che-Guevara: ^^^I disagree. Would you wanna have someone whose middle name is Mengistu as the head of the Somali. I reckon, not. Their concerns are unfortunate, but at the same time valid. Che, apart from the american politics, dont you see someone called Meles not Mengistu is the head of Somali, if you ask me what is TFG doing then? I will say they are his sub-contractors. Now let us come back for barack some other time, its time to beat the hoofs and go home forgetting SOL and the whole world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faarax-Brawn Posted January 25, 2007 Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage That school in question was a public school & not a Madrassa. They will retract that statement in their next edition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted January 25, 2007 First of all let me be clear that I heard it on CNN that it was not madrassa, but a formal non-religious school.Though raised as a christian Obama might have been exposed to Islam in his childhood and he might have been impatient with favorism views of his teachers in Indonesia ("Dreams from my Father").To the dismay of many detractor's of Obama out there he will be exonerated of any charges with his link to the Islamic faith.He is a practising Christain that belong to the Trinity Church.Obama is someone unlike his competitors who practice religious tolerance. I am not a firm supporter of Obama of yet until I see his social security and Environmental Policy stands.I like his charisma of reminding us that Washington needs a change, but for once he never explained to the people how he will conduct that change.Whatever the case Obama has a long way to go.Inhis new book, the Audacity of Hope, president Bush told him that he has a bright future while at the same time there are people out there who would like him to fail (as it is the case of any politician). PS: Excuse my colloquial style there, had to respond it in a hurry.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites