U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures

[Pujah]

I am Britt citizen aint gonna cut it....you're azz is being deported to Somalia

 

 

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U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures

 

LONDON - Prime Minister Tony Blair proposed strict anti-terror measures Friday that would allow Britain to expel foreigners who preach hatred, close extremist mosques and bar entry to Muslim radicals. "The rules of the game are changing" following last month's bomb attacks, he declared.

 

The proposals, which also target extremist Web sites and bookshops, are aimed primarily at excluding radical Islamic clerics accused of whipping up hatred and violence among vulnerable, disenfranchised Muslim men.

 

"We are angry. We are angry about extremism and about what they are doing to our country, angry about their abuse of our good nature," Blair said. "We welcome people here who share our values and our way of life. But don't meddle in extremism because if you meddle in it ... you are going back out again."

 

The July 7 suicide attacks on London's transit system and the failed July 21 attacks stunned Britons, and raised fresh concern about the freedoms Britain offers to individuals and groups known for extremist activities. Blair said the focus of the anti-terror proposals was on foreigners because authorities believe "the ideological drive and push is coming from the outside."

 

But some members of Britain's 1.8 million-strong Muslim community expressed concern that moderate Muslims would be subjected to new prejudices and restrictions.

 

Britain has been criticized for lagging behind its European neighbors in responding to the growing threat of terrorism. Since last month's attacks, France has expelled two extremist Muslim prayer leaders and plans to ship home eight others. Italian authorities deported eight Palestinian imams.

 

Some British officials feel human rights legislation has hampered Britain's ability to deport foreigners. As a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights, Britain is not allowed to deport people to a country where they may face torture or death.

 

Blair is hoping that by winning pledges from countries that deportees would not be subjected to inhumane treatment, Britain can take a tougher line. An agreement has already been reached with Jordan, and London is talking to Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt.

 

The prime minister said some of the measures will require legislation and that he would consider asking Parliament to reconvene next month - rather than October - to take up the proposals. Other measures, such as broadening the grounds for deportation, can be enacted immediately, but likely will face court tests.

 

Blair said the government was prepared to amend human rights legislation if legal challenges proved insurmountable.

 

Under the proposals, anyone who preaches hatred or violence could be deported, those linked to terrorism would be automatically refused asylum and steps would be taken to make it easier to strip naturalized citizens of their British citizenship if they preached violence.

 

The government also will consider a request from police and security services to hold terror suspects for three months without charge. The limit is 14 days. The measures also would extend the use of home arrest for Britons who can't be deported.

 

New powers would be created to allow the closure of mosques that foment extremism.

 

Authorities will draw up lists of radical preachers who will not be allowed to enter Britain, and a list of radical Web sites and bookstores. Any foreigner who "actively engages" with those places could face deportation.

 

Membership in extremist Islamic groups such as Hizb-ut-Tahrir would also become a crime, as would glorifying terrorism.

 

It isn't immediately clear how the measures would have affected those suspected of carrying out last month's attacks. Three of the suspected July 7 bombers, who killed 56 people including themselves, were Pakistani Britons; the fourth moved from Jamaica as a child. At least three of the four men in custody for allegedly carrying out out the botched attacks July 21 were immigrants from East Africa.

 

The proposals, however, could affect their ideological leaders, as well as people such as jailed Egyptian-born cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, who allegedly encouraged the killings of Jews and other non-Muslims and is wanted in the United States, and Omar Mahmoud abu Omar, a Palestinian Islamic extremist better known as Abu Qatada.

 

Sheikh Omar Bakri, who has frequently shrugged off allegations that he preaches extremism, criticized Blair's proposals, particularly suggestions that he could be targeted for remarks made years ago.

 

"If they believed what I said was illegal, why didn't they arrest me at the time, they know my work well," he told The Associated Press. "However, I feel I've done a great service for Muslims. I've addressed the anger and frustration so many youth feel." He said if asked to go, he would return to Lebanon rather than challenge the decision.

 

Iqbal Sacranie, who heads the Muslim Council of Britain, said the group would be seeking more details from Blair, but his early response was concern. "Our democratic values need to be upheld, not undermined," he said.

 

"No one should have the right to close down an institution such as a mosque, it will only ignite further anger and frustration in the hearts and minds of Muslims," Ajmal Masroor of the Islamic Society of Britain told The Associated Press.

 

Other Muslims called the proposals long overdue. "Day after day these lunatics on our behalf ... are really messing up our lives here," Omar Farooq, also of the Islamic Society of Britain, told the British Broadcasting Corp.

[Faarax-Brawn]

if you DTP ,you best beleive they gonna be deported

 

Send em back i tell u

[Nephissa]

Originally posted by Keyf:

I am Britt citizen aint gonna cut it....you're azz is being deported to Somalia

LOL, save the laughter we could be next.

[Castro]

With all this war on terrorism nonesense, I wonder if the cause was transfer of wealth, draconian laws, and curtailement of civil liberties or was it the effect.

 

This sucks a$$ on a monumental level.

[Faarax-Brawn]

This sucks a$$ on a monumental level.

 

How so dude?

 

Ya know a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!

[rudy-Diiriye]

preaching hatred and killing aint what any religion is about, let alone islam. i blame this mishap for this brit govt! they let this shyte explode into smithereens! by housing explotive hate preachers!

 

u know i went through my courses of this stuff from blk hawk down to 911! but i feel your pain london town dwellers... its too surreal at the begnning! let it sink but dont lay down like a log.

 

u folks are like any others and wanna life in peaceful live... let that be heard and stand up for your rights.....dont remain silent, that is the wrong phase. make sure u standup and shout your voice out loud!!

 

write your letters and emails and send it directly to tony!! i am sure u dont wanna kill or do no harm to no 1... so why not let the man know!! let the chips fall where they should be. our community is a peacefull one like any other! they had nothing to do with this bs! amen...peace.

[Strawberry_Xu]

Originally posted by Keyf:

Blair is hoping that by winning pledges from countries that deportees would not be subjected to inhumane treatment, Britain can take a tougher line. An agreement has already been reached with Jordan, and London is talking to Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt.

Why would these countries want people who condone terrorism???

[lol]

Rudy These rights you are talking about is just a bit too ridiculous don't you think?? I mean common, you are qaxooti from Somalia, why act like you have been brought in chains? If they deport you back....so wat. You are going back home... BE PROUD

 

I seriously don't get it, when Somalis act so desperate in holding on to a country that isn't theirs? Here in UAE, the people who have been fired or their contracts finished and are told to leave the country, walaahi they don't go. They stay here till all their money finishes on renting apartment and trying desperately to look for something to keep them here. They try to even deny their ownselves the reality. And finally when all their money is gone, people have to Qaaraan for their tickets to Somalia. Imagine dat.

 

I say go have a visit. See what Somalia is like. Everyone in diaspora says, I am waiting till thereis government Well smell the coffeee, no government will ever be stable unless you all educated Somalis go back.

 

Somalia's letter to World Leaders

 

Dear Sirs,

 

I have been in ruins for the past 15 years, because my brain deserted me and fragments of it is residing in your countries as refugees.

 

Please if you would kindly deport those pieces back to me, I would have the hope of having a better, brighter and stable future.

 

Special Thanks to Tony Blair, please do begin to deport them as soon as possible.

 

Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

 

Somalia.

[Castro]

Originally posted by Hibo:

Rudy

These rights you are talking about is just a bit too ridiculous don't you think??

So what's your qaxooti story miss UAE? Did you get stopped at the Dubai airport while boarding a flight to London? Don't tell me you're a muwaatin in the UAE coz we all know that ain't sh!t.

 

The question is not wanting to be where one is not welcome but that of civil liberties. An alien concept to the UAE and the rest of the third world.

[Haddad]

Originally posted by rudy:

write your letters and emails and send it directly to tony!! i am sure u dont wanna kill or do no harm to no 1... so why not let the man know!!

It never ceases to amaze me these suggestions to write letters and emails to poodle Tony!!! Those are foolish suggestions. For one, massive street protests and demonstrations couldn't achieve anything; what could letters and emails achieve?

Originally posted by Hibo:

If they deport you back....so wat. You are going back home... BE PROUD

Indeed. It's not going to be the end of the world if one is deported. One will adapt and survive. The important thing is to only rely on Allah for rizq, because He's the Provider, not the US, UK or the West.

[lol]

Originally posted by Fidel:

quote:Originally posted by Hibo:

Rudy These rights you are talking about is just a bit too ridiculous don't you think??

So what's your

qaxooti

story miss UAE? Did you get stopped at the Dubai airport while boarding a flight to London? Don't tell me you're a

muwaatin

in the UAE coz we all know that ain't sh!t.

 

The question is not wanting to be where one is not welcome but that of civil liberties. An alien concept to the UAE and the rest of the third world.

U have no knowledge of my history and where I have been, so if I was you I won't talk about Hibo at all. I have travelled to more places than you can't even dream of.

 

U say they stopped me boarding a plane to where?? London urtooy, don't make that filty sh!tty pit-hole a place... plzzz... Transiting thru heathrow was enough of an experience of UK soil. I never want to even go there in my dreams let alone my reality..

 

Now back to the topic.

[Castro]

Originally posted by Hibo:

U have no knowledge of my history and where I have been,

 

Praise the lord.

 

so if I was you I won't talk about Hibo at all.

 

That sounds like a public threat. And no, you're NOT me. Fidel takes off his earrings and rollers ready to whoop some a$$

 

I have travelled to more places than you can't even dream of.

 

I'd bet everything I own on that. And I would win.

 

U say they stopped me boarding a plane to where?? London urtooy, don't make that filty sh!tty pit-hole a place... plzzz... Transiting thru heathrow was enough of an experience of UK soil. I never want to even go there in my dreams let alone my reality..

 

Hey now. Some of my favorite nomads on SOL call that place home. Were you in handcuffs, perhaps a cage, while transiting through Heathrow? And where were you being shipped? Al Sader prison?

 

Now back to the topic.

No! This is more fun.

[Pujah]

Fidel: No! This is more fun.

Indeed.

[lol]

Originally posted by Fidel:

quote:Originally posted by Hibo:

U have no knowledge of my history and where I have been,

 

Praise the lord.

 

so if I was you I won't talk about Hibo at all.

 

That sounds like a public threat. And no, you're NOT me.

Fidel takes off his earrings and rollers ready to whoop some a$$

 

I have travelled to more places than you can't even dream of.

 

I'd bet everything I own on that. And I would win.

 

U say they stopped me boarding a plane to where?? London urtooy, don't make that filty sh!tty pit-hole a place... plzzz... Transiting thru heathrow was enough of an experience of UK soil. I never want to even go there in my dreams let alone my reality..

 

Hey now. Some of my favorite nomads on SOL call that place home. Were you in handcuffs, perhaps a cage, while transiting through Heathrow? And where were you being shipped? Al Sader prison?

 

Now back to the topic.

No! This is more fun.

Odey sacsacay...is someone I got no time for... so take a piss somewhere else will ya!! And those nomads u talk about...can't say jack to me, coz they know... UK isn't theirs..so HUSH!

[Castro]

Originally posted by Hibo:

Odey sacsacay...is someone I got no time for... so take a piss somewhere else will ya!! And those nomads u talk about...can't say jack to me, coz they know... UK isn't theirs..so HUSH!

My apologies. I think what made you really mad is I mistakenly said you were headed to prison. My bad. You were in fact headed to the zoo. Done here, off to piss elsewhere.