Blessed Posted November 26, 2008 80 Dead, 250 + injured. Indian Mujahiden, said to be behind attacks.. already!? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted November 26, 2008 It's become the norm, unfortunately, every time a bomb goes off somewhere some Muslim organisation or persons are to be blamed even before an enquiry begins. Is this on the news, Blessed, do you have a link to it, I couldn't find one, must be recent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Che -Guevara Posted November 26, 2008 Horrible a thing to say, it really doesn't bother me who or how many dies. CNN is already speculating Kashmirs, Muslim Jihadis. Hindu extremists are being ruled out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted November 26, 2008 A few Mumbai Muslims here, in fact one of my class mates is there for a wedding now. I hope she's safe. Probably why I'm interested. Sad truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted November 27, 2008 Originally posted by Nephthys: It's become the norm, unfortunately, every time a bomb goes off somewhere some Muslim organisation or persons are to be blamed even before an enquiry begins. Is this on the news, Blessed, do you have a link to it, I couldn't find one, must be recent. Malla yaabtay? Did any Muslim group claim the attack or evidence found then this could be linked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted November 27, 2008 Experts doubt Al Qaeda link in Mumbai attacks By Mark McDonald Published: November 27, 2008 HONG KONG: The men came wearing black hoods, firing automatic weapons and throwing grenades, taking hostages, attacking two hotels, a cinema, a café, a train station and other popular and undefended "soft targets." An e-mail message to Indian media outlets that claimed responsibility for the bloody attacks in Mumbai on Wednesday night said the militants were from the Deccan Mujahideen. Global terrorism experts said Thursday they had never heard of the group. And based on its tactics, they said, it was probably not a cell or group linked to Al Qaeda. "It's even unclear whether it's a real group or not," said Bruce Hoffman, a professor at the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and the author of the book "Inside Terrorism." "It could be a cover name for another group, or a name adopted just for this particular incident." Chrtistine Fair, senior political scientist and a South Asia expert at the RAND Corporation, was careful to say that the identity of the terrorists could not yet be known. But she insisted the style of the attacks and the targets in Mumbai suggested that the militants were likely to be Indian Muslims - and not linked to Al Qaeda or the violent South Asian terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba. Today in Asia - Pacific At least 100 dead in India terror attacksProtesters force closure of Bangkok's second airportSuicide bomber kills 4, wounds 17 in Kabul"There's absolutely nothing Al Qaeda-like about it," she said of the attack. "Did you see any suicide bombers? And there are no fingerprints of Lashkar. They don't do hostage taking, and they don't do grenades." Hoffman agreed that the assault was "not exactly Al Qaeda's modus operandi, which is suicide attacks." But he said the timed attacks, which he called "tactical, sophisticated and coordinated," perhaps pointed to a broader organization behind the perpetrators. Fair also noted that the fact the group had not proclaimed its ideology in a manifesto was "not at all unusual." "You don't see these types of terrorist operations very often, if at all," Hoffman said. "These aren't just a bunch of radical guys coming together to cause mayhem. "This takes a different skill set. It doesn't take much skill to make a bomb. This is not just pressing a button as a suicide bomber and dying. You don't learn this over the Internet." The word Deccan describes the middle and south of India, which is dominated by the Deccan Plateau. Mujahideen, of course, is the commonly used Arabic word for holy fighters. The very name - if it is a real group - suggests a domestic agenda. "It's maybe not so much a group as a cell that will take on a name for a specific operation," said Fair. "In India you hear these unusual names." Fair did not agree that the attacks on Wednesday necessarily required deep planning and training. "This wasn't something that required a logistical mastermind," she said. "These were not hardened targets. A huge train station with zero security. Two hotels with no security, both owned by Indians. Leopold's Café. How hard is it, really? It's not rocket science." Fair believes the attacks could be "yet another manifestation of domestic terrorism" that has its genesis in a longstanding institutional discrimination against Muslims. "There are a lot of very, very angry Muslims in India," she said, "The economic disparities are startling, and India has been very slow to publicly embrace its rising Muslim problem. You cannot put lipstick on this pig. This is a major domestic political challenge for India." The CIA puts the population of India at 1.15 billion, with Hindus making up about 80 percent of the total and Muslims 13.4 percent. Fair said one incident - "a watershed event" - that continues to anger Muslims were the riots that swept nearby Gujarat State in 2002. The violence killed between 1,000 and 2,000 people, most of them Muslims. "The public political face of India says, 'Our Muslims have not been radicalized.' But the Indian intelligence apparatus knows that's not true. India's Muslim communities are being sucked into the global landscape of Islamist jihad. "Indians will have a strong incentive to link this to Al Qaeda. 'Al Qaeda's in your toilet!' But this is a domestic issue. This is not India's 9/11." For Hoffman, who has studied terrorism for more than 30 years, the Mumbai attacks are "alarming on a number of levels." "It's not often that things in terrorism alarm me. So much is a repeat of what we see almost every day, like suicide bombings. There's no real innovation in terrorism, which is why 9/11 was so terrifying, because it was so innovative and heinously clever. "But these attacks show how a handful of men, basically using weapons off the shelf, can paralyze a city and frustrate highly trained security forces. These attacks were calculated to spread alarm and anxiety - to put it quite frankly, to unhinge things - and that's exactly what Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted November 27, 2008 VERY SAD INDEED .................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted November 27, 2008 Life is so so cheap these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Resistance Posted November 27, 2008 Somali pirates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted November 28, 2008 They now occupy and are holding hostage Israelis in a Senagogue (sp)! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted November 28, 2008 Hindida si baa wax ka,ah. LoooooooL@CIA..Lidia, olden days, I would say you are paraniod,but nowadays conspiracies are almost always factual. Ayoub...Life has always been cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted November 30, 2008 It took so many days to remove them from all the places they seized. Looks like they were aimless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites