VisiT Posted February 18, 2006 18 Feb, 2006: Demonstration in London - http://www.globalcivility.co.uk/index.htm Supporters List of organisations participating in the Muslim Action Committee (MAC). International Muslims Organisation Markazi Jamate ahle Sunnat Jamate Ahle Sunnah Europe Sunni Confederation of Mosques Islamic Human Rights Commission World Islamic Mission Hizb ut Tahrir Stop Political Terror Prisoners of West Salam Magazine Ahlul Bayt Islamic Centre Leeds Al Huda Islamic Centre - Glasgow Al Ikhlaas Al Jamia Al Karimia Trust Al Karam Mosque & Community Centre Al Madina Mosque Al-Hira Education Centre Al-Khazra Markazi Masjid Amir-e-Millat Mosque & Community Centre Anjuman Muhabban-e-Rasool Jamia Masjid Gosia Anjuman Naqeebul Islam As-Shifa & Karimia Mosque Bain-ul-Aqwami Anjuman Tabligh-ul-Islam Banbury Madni Mosque Birmingham Islamic Centre Burton Muslim Mosque Central Jamia Mosque Anjuman ul Muslameen Ltd Central Jamia Mosque Ghamkol Sharif Central Jamia Mosque Madni Central Mosque - Wolverhampton Central Mosque of Brent Central Mosque Razvia Burton Central Mosque Redditch Conwy Islamic Society Crescent International Dar Al Quran Islamic Centre Dar ul Islam Central Mosque & Islamic Education Centre Dar Ul Uloom Qadiria Jilania Darul Uloom Islamia Ghausia Darul Uloom Qadria Jalania Dar-ul-Uloom Jamia Chashtiah Monir-ul-Islam Derby Jamia Mosque Dudley Mosque Easton Masjid ELYF - Youth Forum Fajr Youth Association Free Babar Ahmed Campaign Ghausia Jamia Mosque & Welfare Association Ghausia Mosque Trust Ghausia Qasmia Trust Mosque & Community Centre Ghausiah Mosque Ghosia Mosque Ghousia Jamia Mosque Ghousia Mosque Ghousiah Mosque Gilani Noor Mosque Golden Mosque Gousia Razvia Jamia Mosque & Islamic Centre Gulzar-e-Madina Mosque Hanfi - Sunni Jamia Masjid Eraza & Muslim Association Hanfia Mosque & Islamic Cultural Centre Haqqani House Sufi Centre Harrow Central Mosque Hawzeh Elmieh of London Hazrat Dewan Hazoori Centre Hazrat Sultan Bahu Trust Jamiah Islamiyah Mosque Hounslow Jamia Masjid & Islamic Centre Ilford Islamic Centre Imam Hussain Mosque Institute of Islamic Studies International Women Organisation Iraqi Welfare Association Islam Channel Islamic Centre (Noorani Mosque) Islamic Centre England Islamic Centre of England Islamic Centre of Sakina Trust Islamic Centre Redhill Islamic Centre, Maida Vale, London Islamic College for Advanced Studies Islamic cultural & Educational Association - Madni Jamia Masjid Islamic Cultural Society Luton Central Mosque Islamic Education Centre Jamaa Masjid - Dundee Islamic Society Jamait-ul-Muslemeen Jamia Masjid Jamatia Islamic Centre Jame Masjid Aston Jameah Fatimiah Jami Islamiyah Hazarat Sultan Bahu Trust Mosque Jamia al Karim Mosque & Gloucester Islamic Trust Jamia Ghausia Jamia Ghausia Mosque Jamia Islamia Ghousia Trust Jamia Islamia of Manchester - Central Mosque Jamia Masjid Ghausia Jamia Masjid Ghosia Jamia Masjid Gulshani Baghdad Jamia Masjid Hanfia Association Jamia Masjid Hanfia Ghousia Jamia Masjid Islamic Centre Jamia Masjid Sultania Jamia Mosque Jamia Mosque Eagle Street Jamia Mosque Ghausia Jamia Mosque Gulzar-e-Habib & Education Centre Jamia Mosque Heckmondwike Jamia Mosque Jamiyat Tabligh-ul-Islam Mosque Jamiah Mosque Anwar-e-Mustafa Jamiyate Tablige Islam Masjid Keighley Jamia Mosque Khanka Naqshbandia Mosque Kharza Central Mosque KSIMC Khoja Shia Ithna Asheri Community of London LAMP - Association of Muslims Professionals Lenton Muslim Centre Liverpool Islamic Cultural Centre & Mosque Loughborough Mosque Madina Mosque Madina Mosque Madina Mosque & Muslim Welfare House Madni Masjid Madrassa Darbar Ali Ghamkol Sharif Madrassa Gharib Nawaz Association Madrassa Zia-ul-Quran Madrassa Zia-ul-Quran Middlesborough Madressa Islamia Rizvia Mahabbah Unlimited Majlis Ulema Shia Europe Makkah Mosque & Muslim Community Centre Manchester Central Mosque & Islamic Cultural Centre Manchester Islamic Centre Markazi Jamia Masjid Anwar-e-Madina Markazi Jamia Masjid Bilal Markazi Jamia Masjid Ghausia Markazi Jamia Masjid Ghosia Markazi Jamia Masjid Gulzar-e-Madina Markazi Jamia Mosque Ghousia Ahl e Sunnah wal Jamat Markzi Jame Mosque Riza & Islamic Centre Masjid Anwar-e-Madina Masjid Gows-ul-Azam (Dulwich Islamic Cultural Centre) Masjid-e-Ghosia Masjid-e-Noor-ul-Islam Meadows Muslim Action Group & Mosque - Muslim Centre Misbahul Uloom Urdu Centre Mosaue & Islamic Centre of Aberdeen Mosque & Islamic Centre of Brent Mosque Raza - Islamic Educational & Cultural Centre Muslim Community Centre & Mosque Muslim Directory Muslim Prisoner Support Camp MYA - Youth Association Bedfordshire MYA - Youth Association Hertfordshire Nagina Mosque & Urdu School Naqshbandia Mosque North Manchester Jamia Mosque & Ibadur Rahman Trust North Watford Mosque Nur-ul-Islam Mosque Islamic Trust Peterborough Mosque Q news RAHMA Racial Attack and Harassment Monitoring Association Ramadan Foundation Raza Jamia Mosque & Islamic Centre Raza Mosque Rizvia Mosque & Muslim Welfare Association Shah Jehan Mosque - Woking Shair-e-Rabbani Islamic Centre & Mosque Shere Rabbani Mosque Spring Organisation St. Albans Islamic Centre Sufat-ul-Islam Taiyabah Mosque Telford Central Mosque The Islamic Centre - Leicester Central Mosque The Islamic Centre - Leicester Mosque The New Jamiyat Tabligh-ul-Islam Mosque Tunstall Mosque Walthem Forest Islamic Association - Jamia Masjid Ghosia Washwood Heath Muslim Centre Watford Jamia Mosque Werneth Jamia Mosque WIPE - World Islamic Propagation Enterprise Wycombe Islamic Mission & Mosque Yvonne Ridley --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted February 18, 2006 This is not directed at the person who started the thread so please don't take it personally. Seriously, this is enough of the ****** cartoons! How about this for offensive: hundreds of thousands of muslims are at risk of starvation in East Africa. Thousands more will drown in 2006 trying to get away from despotic regimes. Ordinary Iraqis are bombed fortnightly, others blow up in the streets while countless others are in detention centers without representation or even acknowledgement. No one will ever know of their fate.The same can be said for Afghanis. Muslims in Nigeria and the Niger delta will continue to suffer unparalled poverty despite the region's oil wealth. We've expressed our outrage at the cartoons and our Pakistani brothers seem to have lost their minds in their protests of late(I won't even bring up their abject state of poverty). Maybe these English brothers and sisters can put the plight of muslims on their placards tomorrow. The dignity of Islam is in the dignity of the muslim as well. Not much dignity in what is happening to millions of muslims. Just a thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laba-X Posted February 18, 2006 Seriously, this is enough of the ****** cartoons! How about this for offensive: hundreds of thousands of muslims are at risk of starvation in East Africa. Thousands more will drown in 2006 trying to get away from despotic regimes. ...Naden, Maybe the ONE prophet(p.b.u.h) is more important to us than the thousands who are at risk of starvation and the thousands drowning! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted February 18, 2006 No sense in comparing the two, Laba_Xiniinyood. The prophet (p.b.u.h) is very important to all muslims. It is a given. The thousands dying and humiliated reduce both the number, dignity and survival of the ummah. The rasuul was sent to send the message of hope and salvation to his people and others who would come after him. What are we as muslims doing to defend the faithful, other than scream about some ill-conceived cartoons from a non-believer? Shouting in the streets carrying signs, hoping to collect brownie points to get into heaven. Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood: Seriously, this is enough of the ****** cartoons! How about this for offensive: hundreds of thousands of muslims are at risk of starvation in East Africa. Thousands more will drown in 2006 trying to get away from despotic regimes. ...Naden, Maybe the ONE prophet(p.b.u.h) is more important to us than the thousands who are at risk of starvation and the thousands drowning! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood: Seriously, this is enough of the ****** cartoons! How about this for offensive: hundreds of thousands of muslims are at risk of starvation in East Africa. Thousands more will drown in 2006 trying to get away from despotic regimes. ...Naden, Maybe the ONE prophet(p.b.u.h) is more important to us than the thousands who are at risk of starvation and the thousands drowning! The Rasul (sallahu calihe wasilm) is the BEST OF CREATION. The Rasul (sallahu calihe wasilm) is the PILLAR of the Deen, in Him was the Message, Through Him was the Message. How can you compare ANY OTHER CREATIION? :confused: Naden, Where are your priorities? .......... MasahAllah, its nice to see diff. sects of the ummah in u.k. UNITING under the banner of the SHAHADA on this SUBJECT MATTER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baluug Posted February 18, 2006 The defense of our prophet SCW is a must, and we need to let as many people know as we can, that we will not take this lying down. But at the same time,Naden is right that we are letting other things go, as well. The ummah is in a sad state and somalis in particular have, in my opinion, much higher priorities right now, namely a functional gov't and starving people all over Somalia, regardless of the famine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted February 18, 2006 My priorities are intact, thank you very much. How about this question: What would the rasuul (p.b.u.h) say and do about fellow muslims bombed daily and forced to live as second class citizens in countries all over the world? How would he react to that in comparison to idiotic cartoons from a non-believer? Exaltation of the rasuul is a duty, we must temper it with reason or else we are on a very dangerous slope to deifying him (as has happened in another faith). He was a man who brought our message and non-believers will always target him for ridicule. That is their folly. Our fall as an ummah will not come from these cartoons but from the maiming and decimation of muslims. Naden, Where are your priorities? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucca Posted February 18, 2006 sorry visit, dont mean to mess up your topic but i'd hate to have to start a new one... so i think i'll use your topic here to make my announcment *sorry* toronto folks: when: sun/feb/19 (tomorrow) time: 2pm location: queen's park what: a protest against these cartoons... come out and support! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted February 18, 2006 ^^Count me in. I'll be there... in spirit. May the force be with you all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by naden: My priorities are intact, thank you very much. How about this question: What would the rasuul (p.b.u.h) say and do about fellow muslims bombed daily and forced to live as second class citizens in countries all over the world? How would he react to that in comparison to idiotic cartoons from a non-believer? Exaltation of the rasuul is a duty, we must temper it with reason or else we are on a very dangerous slope to deifying him (as has happened in another faith). He was a man who brought our message and non-believers will always target him for ridicule. That is their folly. Our fall as an ummah will not come from these cartoons but from the maiming and decimation of muslims. quote: Naden, Where are your priorities? Infact, this was one of the reasons why it was done b/c some people viewed that Muslims would React in an 'Unwanted' manner if such pictures, stories about their prophet (salallau calihe wasilm) came up...and if the 'Lion'/Muslim was taunted by EVERYONE, then it would Weaken HIM and exhaustim HIM. This thing has United muslims and Divide some b/c it just brings things to the forefront -HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLINGLY TO DO FOR THE PROPHET (salallau calihe wasilm) ? Its in our face, co-workers talk about it, its all over the net and Television etc....and Alhamdulillah, the Muslim WORLD hasn't Forgetton about it and inshallah, won't. Its a high priority if not a #1 priority to Muslims b/c this was intended to SPIT AT MUSLIMS and inaa lugoo xaaro ummada. Once you start to HIT AT at the FOUNDATIONS of a HOME, then its MEMEBERS have a RIGHT to REACT and be CONCERNED and make it a #1 PRIORITY (at least in their hearts), or else the REST OF THEIR HOME might COLLAPSE and NOTHING might be left for their Children, their GRANDCHILDREN. Infact, their Grandchildren might ask-WHY DO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT HOUSE THEN OUR GRANDPARENTS? The RASUL (salallahu calihe wasilm) is one of the FOUNDATIONS, if not Thee FOUNDATION PILLAR of the DEEN. Pls don't try to take my comments as trying to incite an agrument or bully you or hate on you. Its just that as humans, we tend to become COMPLACENT (accepting) of our CIRCUMSTANCES and as members of the Muhammedan Ummah, we shouldn't do so (AT LEAST NOT IN OUR HEARTS). Fi Amanillah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted February 18, 2006 ^ Saaxib you're even less coherent on weekends than on weekdays. Exactly what are you saying above? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted February 19, 2006 We appear to be debating two different things. Pls don't try to take my comments as trying to incite an agrument or bully you or hate on you. I am not. Its just that as humans, we tend to become COMPLACENT (accepting) of our CIRCUMSTANCES and as members of the Muhammedan Ummah We are not Muhammedans, we are members of the Muslim ummah, Mohammed (pbuh) was our messenger. He delivered the message. This thing has United muslims and Divide some b/c it just brings things to the forefront It has? How? What issues of concern to muslims (other than that we do not depict God and the prophet in pictures) did it bring to the forefront? I think our opinions differ on what should be the concern of muslims as an ummah so I will leave it at that. HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLINGLY TO DO FOR THE PROPHET (salallau calihe wasilm) ? Nothing. The rasuul (pbuh) did his work and will be in heaven. My concern is how much I am able to do for my fellow muslims when opportunities arise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted February 19, 2006 ^ You don't happen to have a helmet handy, do you? Yes? Wear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted February 19, 2006 Nice and fastened, thanks for the warning . Originally posted by Castro: ^ You don't happen to have a helmet handy, do you? Yes? Wear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
