MVP Posted April 5, 2005 A friend who is divorcing his wife told me: "I fell out of love because she became too masculine." The major reason somali families are breaking up is that somali women are brainwashed to think they are oppressed and need to be more like men. first let's talk about american Domestic violence laws, this laws are designed to destroy families NOT protect women. Domestic violence laws prevent men from exercising the leadership that most women actually want. What couple does not encounter stress, especially when they have children? But in the fever of emotion, a woman can call "911" and have three police cars there in minutes. what most somali women don't understand is that After this fateful act, she loses all control. The state prosecutes her husband whether she likes it or not. He is jailed and prohibited from returning home. **** up his record for the rest of his life They don't realize that powerful forces want to exacerbate their problems in order to undermine the social fabric. These forces are determined to destroy the family and create dysfunctional people. Women in genuine danger are lost in a sea of trivial cases. In male-on-male assaults, first-time cases are always referred to mediation. This should take place in domestic situations as well. Evil forces that have subverted governments are using feminism and lesbianism to destabilize society To equalize power is to eliminate sexual distinction. This doesn't mean that woman are not powerful and effective as women, but not by becoming men. Men -- steer clear of any sexual relationship where you are not in charge. Just as femininity should be respected, so should masculinity. You emasculate a man when you take away his power. A husband will consult his wife but eventually someone has to make a decision. A man who is ruled by his wife is less a man. He feels like a little boy with his mother. On the other hand, when his wife accepts his leadership, he feels like a man. Women help to make men. Similarly, a wife who follows her husband's leadership feels more like a woman. If she can't follow him, she should be married to someone else. The essence of femininity is for a woman to depend on the man she loves. The intimate male-female dynamic is for woman to entrust worldly power to her husband, and for him to use it to make her happy. Man wants power. Women want love (not power.) They ARE different. A man wants to make the woman he loves happy . Does he consult her? How else can he please her? She reciprocates by making him happy. The energy flows. Woman must give man the power to love her. If she is "strong, bold and independent," as she is being taught, he becomes redundant Woman shows she loves a man by empowering him, by surrendering and trusting. Women want to be possessed by a man's love. (They are not men.) Of course the contract breaks down if the man doesn't keep his end of the bargain. He must be her champion, loyal and loving to the end. If this contract breaks down, the marriage is over. A woman is a vehicle by nature. She is waiting for a man's call. She wants to be used by the man she loves for a higher purpose. One such purpose is to create a healthy happy family. A man, therefore, should have a clear idea of what he wants, and the role he wants a woman to play. Then he finds a wife who meets HIS criteria instead of contorting himself for every sexually attractive woman he meets. Age-old standards of masculinity still apply. A man must supply just leadership and sustenance to his family. Therefore he must have control. (Domestic violence legislation is designed to destroy families by undermining paternal authority. Ninety five per cent of the cases involve power struggles NOT battered women. These days men have no way to measure themselves. They are like little boys looking for love. A woman needs to be enlisted, not entreated. Woman's nature is to nurture and love her husband and children. She wants to be needed, honored and loved in return. A woman should never be taken for granted. (Nor should a man.) When a woman identifies with her husband, they become one in marriage. If they remain "independent," they remain roommates open to every temptation. Certainly a woman has her own interests and career but these are not her first priority. A woman has a limited "window of opportunity" (approximately 12 years) in which to start a family. Millions have been duped into concentrating on a career instead of a husband. They are consigned to lonely frustrated bitter lives thumbing well-worn copies of "The Vagina Monologues". A woman wants to be an extension of her husband. She is the spiritual ground in which he plants his seed. She is the recipient of to his spirit. By "accepting" him wholeheartedly, he "belongs" to her. This union results in psychological maturity for both. Together they create a new world and bring children into it. Millions of people suffer from arrested development due to elite sponsorship of feminism which has poisoned heterosexual relations. Societal obsession with sex and pornography is a symptom. Society has witnessed an unprecedented decline in the nuclear family with a parallel increase in personal and social dysfunction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted April 5, 2005 The essence of femininity is for a woman to depend on the man she loves The first in a series of one-liners. Give up the day job and write and appear in your own Monologue. I won't suggest what u call it but don't go for the obvious if u want it to be taken seriously. Are men that threatened? If u're a real man no woman can take your masculinity from you. And leave the F word out of it, guys, u keep turning the air a boring shade of whinge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Femme - Posted April 5, 2005 Women seem to be an interesting subject to examine and disect these past few days. Oh well *pulls up sleeves* MVP--I find it scary how much you know about women and their needs, wants, desires--its almost as if your one of us! :eek: first let's talk about american Domestic violence laws, this laws are designed to destroy families NOT protect women. Is this coming from a bitter experince, luv? Don't let your past experience cloud your judgement and common sense. Domestic violence laws prevent men from exercising the leadership that most women actually want. So I suppose beating, assualting, raping, denying women their rights as wifes, failing to provide for her and her children, are considered leadership qualitites? what most somali women don't understand is that After this fateful act, she loses all control. The state prosecutes her husband whether she likes it or not. He is jailed and prohibited from returning home. **** up his record for the rest of his life And whose fault is that now? Is the only way a man would respect his women, is being scared shitless of the police? Evil forces that have subverted governments are using feminism and lesbianism to destabilize society I simply love men and their paranoia and conspiracies about feminists and lesbians. How adorable. Almost makes me want to cuddle them. Men -- steer clear of any sexual relationship where you are not in charge. Let me correct you on this, before you lead some men here astray. Men, stay clear of any sexual relationship in which your partner is not your wife. Man wants power. Women want love (not power.) They ARE different. Thats funny. I want both. What does that make me? A woman is a vehicle by nature. She is waiting for a man's call. She wants to be used by the man she loves for a higher purpose. One such purpose is to create a healthy happy family. I find this insulting and deeply offensive. A man, therefore, should have a clear idea of what he wants, and the role he wants a woman to play. Then he finds a wife who meets HIS criteria instead of contorting himself for every sexually attractive woman he meets. Let me guess. It's the woman's fault that men have such weak characters? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeking Paradise Posted April 5, 2005 Femme, have to agree with you on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted April 5, 2005 ^ LoL...Priceless, eh? Domestic violence legislation is designed to destroy families by undermining paternal authority. Ninety five per cent of the cases involve power struggles NOT battered women. 95%? And where is that bit of statistic from? The Wife-beater Foundation or the Anti-Bacmadow Support Group? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nazra Posted April 6, 2005 MVP, don't forget to reference where you retrieved your information from. But, don't you think these Somali women are calling the police for a good reason. For example, i have a relative who is married to a fitz. He’s abusive (verbally & physically) in front of the kids, he is a qaad chewer, smoker and commits adultery. One day things got of control. This man does not even respect the mother in law nor the father in law. In -laws being a witness she had to call the police to remove him. For her own safety as well as the kids. You’re probably wondering why on earth is she married to him. He REFUSED to divorce her. Back in Somalia a gun was even held to his head to divorce her but his respond was: “I’ll rather die than divorce herâ€. Well now it’s taken to the Islamic divorce thing (don’t know the name). But he’s moved and still robs her right to be single. So the story goes on. But she had every right to do that. This happens in our community, and hey the woman is to blame. But there’s handful of woman who are career orientated but are open to marriage and children and good family life. I think many Somali men feel insecure about the number of women who have knowledge. After all knowledge is power. Power in the relationship goes to the one with more knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Serenity- Posted April 6, 2005 A woman wants to be an extension of her husband. She is the spiritual ground in which he plants his seed. She is the recipient of to his spirit. By "accepting" him wholeheartedly, he "belongs" to her. This union results in psychological maturity for both. How gross is this? In all fairness, the article has some valid points(Just a few ladies... dont reach for ma jagular yet) . We do desire different things and have different expectations from each other. I can be "strong, bold and independent,", my man would just have to top me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bess. Posted April 6, 2005 wow.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: A woman is a vehicle by nature. She is waiting for a man's call. She wants to be used by the man she loves for a higher purpose. One such purpose is to create a healthy happy family. thank u so much for letting me know my purpose, so our ultimate achievement in life is 2 find a man and depend on his will to guide us and tell us want to do as we r incapable of doing and making decisions for ourselves.....interesting Domestic violence laws prevent men from exercising the leadership that most women actually want. so abuse now is leadership ......and women who oppose to being treated like animals and used as punching bags are ruining thier families.......hmmmmm......interesting.... Men -- steer clear of any sexual relationship where you are not in charge. what does this being " in charge"....entail...that he beat her...sorry....use his leadership skills on her....wheneva he wants....or am i missing something here.....interesting.... ps....so the moral of the story is that women don't know wat they want....can't function probably without a man.....and if a man decides to excercise his "leadership skills" upside thier heads its probably for thier own good......hmmmmm In all fairness, the article has some valid point. We do desire different things and expect different things from each other. I can be "strong, bold and independent,", my man would just have to top me. - love it couldn'thave said it better..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Girl Posted April 7, 2005 quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- first let's talk about american Domestic violence laws, this laws are designed to destroy families NOT protect women. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this coming from a bitter experince, luv? Don't let your past experience cloud your judgement and common sense. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Domestic violence laws prevent men from exercising the leadership that most women actually want. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I suppose beating, assualting, raping, denying women their rights as wifes, failing to provide for her and her children, are considered leadership qualitites? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what most somali women don't understand is that After this fateful act, she loses all control. The state prosecutes her husband whether she likes it or not. He is jailed and prohibited from returning home. **** up his record for the rest of his life -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And whose fault is that now? Is the only way a man would respect his women, is being scared shitless of the police? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evil forces that have subverted governments are using feminism and lesbianism to destabilize society -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I simply love men and their paranoia and conspiracies about feminists and lesbians. How adorable. Almost makes me want to cuddle them. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Men -- steer clear of any sexual relationship where you are not in charge. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let me correct you on this, before you lead some men here astray. Men, stay clear of any sexual relationship in which your partner is not your wife. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Man wants power. Women want love (not power.) They ARE different. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats funny. I want both. What does that make me? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A woman is a vehicle by nature. She is waiting for a man's call. She wants to be used by the man she loves for a higher purpose. One such purpose is to create a healthy happy family. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I find this insulting and deeply offensive. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A man, therefore, should have a clear idea of what he wants, and the role he wants a woman to play. Then he finds a wife who meets HIS criteria instead of contorting himself for every sexually attractive woman he meets. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lol , ilaahoow FF hanagu didrin , we need feminists like ya dear back to topic: as women come to west, they try to get educated, get a job and live a better life unlike men, that sit in the cafe`s chewing Qat, what this conflict couses is that some men can`t accept that women got a better status in the society then they did earlier (back in badiya) isn`t it? and still they complain?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jurnee Posted April 7, 2005 MVP, did u mean to post this in the jokes section? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamilah Posted April 9, 2005 MVP, I understand what you are trying to say and the things you said are logical. Women do tend to think with their hearts and thus a man is needed to lead in such instances. However, don't you think that most of the things you said is based on the assumption every woman is married to the ideal man. A man, therefore, should have a clear idea of what he wants, and the role he wants a woman to play The thing is your suggestions does not seem to cater for those who lets say are married to a man with no sense of direction and simply does not know what he wants for himself let alone his wife. You also have to acknowledge that many woman are prepared to lead their household and if things get difficult are not just going to call the police around the corner. The essence of femininity is for a woman to depend on the man she loves At the risk of sounding like a feminist I admitt I will never depend on a man. But with that having been said, does not mean I will not obey my husband it just means depending on anyone for anything is something I cannot imagine myself to do. If that means my femininity is questionable so be it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalixa Posted April 9, 2005 A woman is a vehicle by nature. She is waiting for a man's call. She wants to be used by the man she loves for a higher purpose. One such purpose is to create a healthy happy family. I found that to be deeeeeeply OFFENSIVE I think if that was the case in the ISlamic society no one women would get married. Man wants power. Women want love (not power.) They ARE different. since when??? your living in the dark ages i guess Please don't stir much more controversy than there really is and we are getting in trouble with the west with sending these fabricated facts that are purely culterized than islamically based. Tell me where in the quraan it says this ahh i fell angry. some men i guess are ill minded by nature. you think you are honoring the sisters but you are deteriorating thier value and respect they own in Islam buy classifying them as objects than human of intrinsic worth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Passion_4_Fashion Posted April 12, 2005 hmmmm...interesting theory MVP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites