me Posted June 11, 2007 Almost 8,000 sex offenders have been cautioned across England in the past five years, rather than being charged. Offences involving children accounted for more than 1,600 of the cautions, while more than 230 were for rape. The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said a caution would be given only if it was the most appropriate course of action. The government said there were very few cases where cautions were appropriate for rape or offences against children. 'Very careful thought' Acpo said a caution did not mean the offender was being "let off" as it still brought a criminal record and a caution for a sex crime would also see the offender placed on the sex offenders register. The results were revealed after inquiries to every police force in England by the BBC News website, many of them made using the Freedom of Information Act. Every force provided figures except West Yorkshire Police, which said it would be too expensive to search for the results. Crimes dealt with by a caution included offences as varied as rape, downloading child porn, bigamy, exploitation of prostitution, indecent exposure, sexual offences against animals, sexual grooming and familial sex offences (incest). Of the offences against children dealt with by a caution, more than 350 were cases involving a victim aged under 13. Terrence Grange, Acpo lead for sexual offences and Chief Constable of Dyfed Powys Police, said: "Every decision made to prosecute or issue a caution is reached after very careful thought and consideration. "Every incident will be treated on its own merit, taking into account the circumstances of the incident and the people involved. "A caution will only be given if it is agreed to be the most appropriate course of action. These decisions are usually taken after full consultation with our partners." Admission of guilt Acpo said the age, welfare, mental well-being and views of the victim would be taken into account as would the severity of an attack. It said circumstances where a caution would be given for rape could include cases where the victim does not turn up to give evidence in court. Acpo also said cautions were likely to be given in cases where, for example, a 16-year-old boy had consensual sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend, who may be in the same class at school as him. This would be a criminal offence - unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl under 16 - but would usually not be pursued through the courts. But it said in any situation there would have to be a clear admission of guilt. It left the offender with a criminal record and - in the case of a sex offence - the need to go on the sex offenders register. A spokesperson for the Ministry of Justice said: "The government is committed to securing more convictions in rape cases and has commissioned the child sex offender review to ensure that children are better protected from paedophiles. "There are very few circumstances indeed where a caution for rape or offences against children is the most appropriate sanction. "Use of cautions is a matter for the police but in exceptional circumstances - for instance where the victim does not want to proceed with a prosecution." The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats both said the number of sex offenders being cautioned was far too high - and blamed the policies of the government. Shadow Home Secretary, David Davis, said: "It is bad enough that so many offenders are getting away with effectively no punishment. It is outrageous that this is happening in very serious cases of sexual assault involving children. "This is a direct consequence of Labour pursuing a policy of getting detections by the easiest possible route even if it means keeping thousands of serious offenders out of the justice system. "The appalling effect it has on public safety of some of the most vulnerable in our country is something Labour should be truly ashamed of." 'Alarming evidence' Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat spokesman on home affairs, said: "There are many circumstances in which the police rightly use cautions, but the public will be shocked to learn that it is taking place on such a large scale for such serious offences. "This is part and parcel of a wider trend pushed by Tony Blair for the police to bypass traditional justice in favour of fixed penalty notices and other measures outside the courts. "There is also alarming evidence that these shortcuts to justice are being used in increasing numbers so that the police can meet the rigid and arbitrary targets imposed by this government. "We need urgent clarification whether this is the result of the perverse pressure placed upon the police by government targets." The campaign group Women Against Rape said: "It takes an enormous effort for a traumatised woman who has been sexually assaulted to come forward. "It is a slap in the face when the man is let off with merely a caution, a huge setback when you are trying to rebuild your life. "Getting justice is essential to recovery after rape - cautions confirm that the authorities hardly count what happened to you as serious. "Although there are some circumstances where a caution is appropriate, for example, where the perpetrator is very young, little comparable concern has been shown to teenagers convicted of non-violent crimes, for example those criminalised for graffiti and truancy via the use of Asbos." Jim Gamble, head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, who generated controversy earlier this month when he suggested not all paedophiles should be jailed, said it was important child sex offenders were dealt with properly. He said: "Everybody doesn't go to prison, but let's make sure the right people do because that's the best way to protect our children. "[A caution] is admitting you're guilty. It's being put on the sex offenders register and thereafter being monitored." link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted June 11, 2007 Death penatly for rapists and child molesters? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Lily- Posted June 11, 2007 ME, there are too many, there are many child organizations condemning the government for not protecting children. That's why 11 year olds get dropped off to school and picked up, and parents watch over them when they go to parks, its sad really. And then you have those that tell you being a paedophile is a 'disease'. Always an excuse to remove responsibility from grown a$$ adults who do evil with a full consciousness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted June 11, 2007 You would see anything in western countries from homo sexuals, rapists, children molesters etc. Things that one would never or rarely see in Muslim countries. May Allah protect us, and may he the merciful re-establish our country insha-allah. Wa salaamu alaikum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted June 11, 2007 ^ That doesnt mean they are not there.......because they are there....in Muslim countries people just dont talk about it that much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted June 11, 2007 me I said it HAPPENS bt rarely compared to western countries. wa salaamu alaikum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted June 11, 2007 Originally posted by AAliyah416: You would see anything in western countries from homo sexuals, rapists, children molesters etc. Things that one would never or rarely see in Muslim countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Posted June 11, 2007 I havent lived in the Islamic countries,but in Africa it happens in small scales ,especially in the coastal towns..where there is high influence of other cultures and people. These sickos come from different walks of life,you can never trust human beings...You might assume that the threat is outside,but hey its been known those who abuse kids come from the within circle...so called uncles,cousins,friends,maalims etc etc...beware!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zafir Posted June 11, 2007 Originally posted by Naden: quote:Originally posted by AAliyah416: You would see anything in western countries from homo sexuals, rapists, children molesters etc. Things that one would never or rarely see in Muslim countries. You know she is right Naden! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted June 11, 2007 Make me, Zafir! :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites