Libaax-Sankataabte Posted December 31, 2007 I guess CNN network made some sense when it used the word "idolized". Subhanalah. These "status-worshipping" Pakistani masaakiins are truely victims of hype and the media. Niman waaweeyn oo dariigyada ku ooyaya dhareerna ka da'ayo. These are the times you truly appreciate being a Somali. None of that jiljileec crap. I am hearing her son was "chosen by his dead mother" to lead the PPP party. loool. What a load of nonsense! I am sure there are many intelligent, capable party members who would do a great job if given the chance to lead. But then again Bhutto was all about Bhutto's interest. This latest move is all the proof you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naden Posted December 31, 2007 LOL @ the shell-shocked look on the young boy's face. Party leader, my foot. He should be popping zits and skipping college lectures. Pakistanis are a very curious people. All that mad-hopping and hair-pulling they do on the streets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted December 31, 2007 The government says that a flying sunroof lever caused her death after the explosion as confirmed by the subsequent investigation of the cause of her death. The investigation concluded that there was no traceable object of a bullet found in her neck or chest, so there was no mark of injury in her body. Personally, I assume the suicide bomber fired shots to either hit her or disperse the overly crowded public surrounding her armored car and get a quick access to her spatial sunroof where her torso protruded so closely that there is 100% probability that the explosion would consume the suicide bomber and Benazir Bhutto. Surprisingly, neither political analysts nor anyone else has thought over this possible scenario. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahima Posted December 31, 2007 May Allah forgive the sins of and have mercy upon all those who died in this tragedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted December 31, 2007 ^^ AMIIIIN. (Love the diplomatic reply there by the way). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 31, 2007 Originally posted by Caamir: The government says that a flying sunroof lever caused her death after the explosion as confirmed by the subsequent investigation of the cause of her death. The investigation concluded that there was no traceable object of a bullet found in her neck or chest, so there was no mark of injury in her body. Personally, I assume the suicide bomber fired shots to either hit her or disperse the overly crowded public surrounding her armored car and get a quick access to her spatial sunroof where her torso protruded so closely that there is 100% probability that the explosion would consume the suicide bomber and Benazir Bhutto. Surprisingly, neither political analysts nor anyone else has thought over this possible scenario. According to the video footage the suicide bomber and the sniper are different people. The former is supposedly the guy with traditional dress and the latter is the shady guy character in the dark clothing. Apparently, the second guy fired shots and couple of seconds later the other blew himself up. This doesn't make sense one would think that there was a distinct possibly that the suicide bomber could blow apar the assasin. Anyway, the suicide bomber( if there was one) didn't killer her, she died from two hits to the ahead by the sniper, which bares the hallmarks of a profesional assisination.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ameen Posted December 31, 2007 If this was a professional assisination, that would cause us to believe that the Pakistani Gonvernment had some involvement in the whole plan. Just imagine if the Pakistani people found out the woman they've been worshipping has been killed by the current government, how would they re-act to that news? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhagax-Tuur Posted December 31, 2007 As if her presence/political comeback in the Islamic republic wasn't bad enough, now they've elected a 19 year old kid to run a political party and a possibility of running for premiership just cause he was her son and shares a name! Dispicable, i say. And the fact I heard some so-called students/analysts verbally supporting the naming of this kid as a successor was simply shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Posted December 31, 2007 You have the Bhutto dynasty in Pakistan,the Bush dynasty in America and yet they sang and sing about democractic process's..hmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted December 31, 2007 My heart bleeds for Pakistan. It deserves better than this grotesque feudal charade Monday, December 31, 2007 By Tariq Ali, Pakistan-born writer, broadcaster and commentator Six hours before she was executed, Mary, Queen of Scots wrote to her brother-in-law, Henry III of France: "...As for my son, I commend him to you in so far as he deserves, for I cannot answer for him." The year was 1587. On 30 December 2007, a conclave of feudal potentates gathered in the home of the slain Benazir Bhutto to hear her last will and testament being read out and its contents subsequently announced to the world media. Where Mary was tentative, her modern-day equivalent left no room for doubt. She could certainly answer for her son. A triumvirate consisting of her husband, Asif Zardari (one of the most venal and discredited politicians in the country and still facing corruption charges in three European courts) and two ciphers will run the party till Benazir's 19-year-old son, Bilawal, comes of age. He will then become chairperson-for-life and, no doubt, pass it on to his children. The fact that this is now official does not make it any less grotesque. The Pakistan People's Party is being treated as a family heirloom, a property to be disposed of at the will of its leader. Nothing more, nothing less. Poor Pakistan. Poor People's Party supporters. Both deserve better than this disgusting, medieval charade. Benazir's last decision was in the same autocratic mode as its predecessors, an approach that would cost her – tragically – her own life. Had she heeded the advice of some party leaders and not agreed to the Washington-brokered deal with Pervez Musharraf or, even later, decided to boycott his parliamentary election she might still have been alive. Her last gift to the country does not augur well for its future. How can Western-backed politicians be taken seriously if they treat their party as a fiefdom and their supporters as serfs, while their courtiers abroad mouth sycophantic niceties concerning the young prince and his future. That most of the PPP inner circle consists of spineless timeservers leading frustrated and melancholy lives is no excuse. All this could be transformed if inner-party democracy was implemented. There is a tiny layer of incorruptible and principled politicians inside the party, but they have been sidelined. Dynastic politics is a sign of weakness, not strength. Benazir was fond of comparing her family to the Kennedys, but chose to ignore that the Democratic Party, despite an addiction to big money, was not the instrument of any one family. The issue of democracy is enormously important in a country that has been governed by the military for over half of its life. Pakistan is not a "failed state" in the sense of the Congo or Rwanda. It is a dysfunctional state and has been in this situation for almost four decades. At the heart of this dysfunctionality is the domination by the army and each period of military rule has made things worse. It is this that has prevented political stability and the emergence of stable institutions. Here the US bears direct responsibility, since it has always regarded the military as the only institution it can do business with and, unfortunately, still does so. This is the rock that has focused choppy waters into a headlong torrent. The military's weaknesses are well known and have been amply documented. But the politicians are not in a position to cast stones. After all, Mr Musharraf did not pioneer the assault on the judiciary so conveniently overlooked by the US Deputy Secretary of State, John Negroponte, and the Foreign Secretary, David Miliband. The first attack on the Supreme Court was mounted by Nawaz Sharif's goons who physically assaulted judges because they were angered by a decision that ran counter to their master's interests when he was prime minister. Some of us had hoped that, with her death, the People's Party might start a new chapter. After all, one of its main leaders, Aitzaz Ahsan, president of the Bar Association, played a heroic role in the popular movement against the dismissal of the chief justice. Mr Ahsan was arrested during the emergency and kept in solitary confinement. He is still under house arrest in Lahore. Had Benazir been capable of thinking beyond family and faction she should have appointed him chairperson pending elections within the party. No such luck. The result almost certainly will be a split in the party sooner rather than later. Mr Zardari was loathed by many activists and held responsible for his wife's downfall. Once emotions have subsided, the horror of the succession will hit the many traditional PPP followers except for its most reactionary segment: bandwagon careerists desperate to make a fortune. All this could have been avoided, but the deadly angel who guided her when she was alive was, alas, not too concerned with democracy. And now he is in effect leader of the party. Meanwhile there is a country in crisis. Having succeeded in saving his own political skin by imposing a state of emergency, Mr Musharraf still lacks legitimacy. Even a rigged election is no longer possible on 8 January despite the stern admonitions of President George Bush and his unconvincing Downing Street adjutant. What is clear is that the official consensus on who killed Benazir is breaking down, except on BBC television. It has now been made public that, when Benazir asked the US for a Karzai-style phalanx of privately contracted former US Marine bodyguards, the suggestion was contemptuously rejected by the Pakistan government, which saw it as a breach of sovereignty. Now both Hillary Clinton and Senator Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, are pinning the convict's badge on Mr Musharraf and not al-Qa'ida for the murder, a sure sign that sections of the US establishment are thinking of dumping the President. Their problem is that, with Benazir dead, the only other alternative for them is General Ashraf Kiyani, head of the army. Nawaz Sharif is seen as a Saudi poodle and hence unreliable, though, given the US-Saudi alliance, poor Mr Sharif is puzzled as to why this should be the case. For his part, he is ready to do Washiongton's bidding but would prefer the Saudi King rather than Mr Musharraf to be the imperial message-boy. A solution to the crisis is available. This would require Mr Musharraf's replacement by a less contentious figure, an all-party government of unity to prepare the basis for genuine elections within six months, and the reinstatement of the sacked Supreme Court judges to investigate Benazir's murder without fear or favour. It would be a start. Source: Belfast Telegraph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ismahaan Posted December 31, 2007 Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: Niman waaweeyn oo dariigyada ku ooyaya dhareerna ka da'ayo. These are the times you truly appreciate being a Somali. None of that jiljileec crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted December 31, 2007 Mushi did it. he had the most to gain from it. watch the truth will come out soon, so dont be surprised about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted January 1, 2008 Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: I guess CNN network made some sense when it used the word "idolized". Subhanalah. These "status-worshipping" Pakistani masaakiins are truely victims of hype and the media. Niman waaweeyn oo dariigyada ku ooyaya dhareerna ka da'ayo. These are the times you truly appreciate being a Somali. None of that jiljileec crap. I am hearing her son was "chosen by his dead mother" to lead the PPP party. loool. What a load of nonsense! I am sure there are many intelligent, capable party members who would do a great job if given the chance to lead. But then again Bhutto was all about Bhutto's interest. This latest move is all the proof you need. Dee saxiib, sum ppl don't understand, she was what we Somalis would call the clan elders of her region. This is all about everyone representing their various district slash tribe. That's why those grown men were shedding tears not for democracy or Pakistan.Only Somalis would never change the name of their son the bear the same surname of his mother. I feel sorry for the young lad though....... But I guess he is the new Garaad of the dynasty, which will lead the democratic nation of Pakistan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted January 2, 2008 More democracy: Bhutto succession will split the party, says tribe leader The party has come into existence on the name and the sweat and the blood of the Bhutto family," http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article3300991.ece Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites