Gheelle.T Posted November 6, 2008 Allamagan, he will make some changes on US foreign policy(that was in his campaign rhetoric.) Will we benefit that? in some way we might, but I doubt if Somalia specifically is/will be a top foreign affair priority for him. If he makes some changes on the war of terror doctrine for example, that will have some affect on us, good or bad we don't know it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted November 6, 2008 Ladies and gentlemen you have just witnessed historic election. History has been made. Go buy NY Times or some reputable newspaper in ur neck of the woods and save it for posterity. This is history making feat this young guy has pulled off. Emanuel is part of the coalition that made possible for Obama to be where he is in today. So he is a Jewish! I mean where is ur noodles? The expectations are high, the task is a daunting one and you may not see an earth shattering policy changes in Obama administration but make no mistake buddy this was and remains to be a night all dark skinned folks will remember and cherish. My kids can see themselves on the mirror if you know what I mean. Ain't that alone something1 What a country! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koora-Tuunshe Posted November 6, 2008 How coincident Baashi. I was really browsing not long ago this site nystore.com/Obama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 6, 2008 It is rare to see me crowing as such. But looking at things from Baashi's angle and seeing how America has changed in the past 40 years, one has to stand up and take notice of this great change (though of course I hold no hope for Obama turning out to be the great president that most predict). Be that as it may, here are a few quotes from bygone days to remind us all of how things were: Tupac once said: We gotta make a change... It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes. Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live and let's change the way we treat each other. You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do what we gotta do, to survive. Dr King said: In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." Looks like the cheque has been finally cashed. Malcolm X said: A revolution is bloody, but America is in a unique position. She’s the only country in history in a position actually to become involved in a blood-less revolution. The -- The Russian revolution was bloody; Chinese revolution was bloody; French revolution was bloody; Cuban revolution was bloody; and there was nothing more bloody then the American Revolution. But today this country can become involved in a revolution that won’t take bloodshed. All she’s got to do is give the black man in this country everything that’s due him -- everything. Looks like the revolution finally took place. Lyndon B. Johnson said: "The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men." Looks like it finally came true. Malcolm again says: "I see America through the eyes of a victim. I don’t see any American dream. I see an American nightmare." Looks like the nightmare is over. Ms Maya Angelou said: "Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the dream and the hope of the slave. I rise I rise I rise." Mohamed Ali said: "I am America. I am the part you won't recognize. But get used to me. Black, confident, cocky; my name, not yours; my religion, not yours; my goals, my own; get used to me." Looks like they got used to him. I am not an American and don't care much for looking forward. But, looking back, I can not help but smile and think of Dr King's dream. They did overcome. Free at last, as it were. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted November 6, 2008 The choices so far are great. ...................................... visit the site and join.. http://change.gov/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted November 6, 2008 "We Shall Overcome" song used to be a protest song or an anthem of US civil right movement and it all started here. So now Obama being the 1st black president eveer in US. he gave african americans a new injection of self-belief and hope and to live the real american dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LayZie G. Posted November 8, 2008 LOL@Kasha Listen brother man, empathy is for calool jileecs. You can not go around wanting to give freebees of espresso empathy everytime a muslim makes the news with the most ridiculous story as a headline: A Muslim woman refused to shake the hands of the commissioner or The headline about your somali brothers and sisters in a factory somewhere in maine or some other state in the USA, demanding that they get more break time than all the other factory workers in the name of equality. I have news for those folks, do not get into the police academy thinking that you are not going to be in contact with the opposite sex. In addition, your brothers and sisters working at the factory have to learn the meaning of comprise. Accommodation of religious groups and ethnicity is a delicate subject, one in which needs well structured argument to be presented in a manner suitable for both parties.(the employee & Employer) Negotiations are key, having an open mind about the outcome is welcomed. Therefore kasha, you and I know that somalideena are not reasonable people.(most) The groups that look to making the changes need to change themselves. Yes, multiculturalism is an asset to the prosperity of the nation(s). That said, there are citizens that long been part of the process and they need to be inclusive as just the newcomers should be inclusive. Human beings can accomplish anything they set their minds to it, therefore we need to teach our people to be part of the integration process. They can not fool themselves into thinking that they can make changes happen on their terms alone without some comprise on their part. If the african slaves could not achieve liberty and equality for as long as noted in the history books, what makes you think a farax can get it in a day or a week or a month? Blacks were willing to be part of society and wanted to be accepted as human beings and they were told no, you will never be one of us. On the other hand, Somalida want no part of the white man's world, they just want to be accommodated while scamming the social programs that were designed to service the less fortunate. Lets be real, there can be tendencies of destructive force that is found in our folks and for that reason alone, they should be shunned and not praised. We have to learn to respect the rules and regulations of the country that has welcomed us. I'm all for change and just reading Ng's post above, I too can't help think about Dr. King and reading "letter from birmingham jail" for school ages ago. The difference of reading that letter and the impact it had on my view on life is tremendous. If any of you have not read it, I strongly recommend it. The man was better orator than I have ever taken him for. All in all, creating barriers and being social outcasts is not the way to achieving total liberty that would allow one to pray freely, and practice their faith as they see fit. Making demands does not get anyone anywhere. People, if you really paid any attention to Obama, then you know that change is needed but change can not happen all at once. Its a process, be a good citizen, know how the system works and keep in mind that whatever you are determined to change will happen as long as the law works for you and not against you. PS: The Masjid Massacre was unfortunate, it was an evil act that was carried by evil men. To this day, I'm not convinced that axmaaro had a hand in that, if anything it was your militias that staged the act for the axmaaros, unless they themselves ay dadkaas gooraceen. Remember, you are not as open minded as you like to think because you blamed axmaaro without any evidence. I remember saying that we needed to wait for the verdict to come in, let an outside organization conduct an investigation and find out exactly what happened. By then, you have already judged the axmaaro, all because axmaaro ayey yihiin. Waxaas aqli ma aha wallaalo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted November 8, 2008 ^^but you haven't answered his questions,which is very simple; how comes you convicted the brotheres in Germany as being guilty of blowing themselves, yet when Tigray troops( with a history massacre) were accused; you have to be rational, platonic and civilized? You see, you totally contradicy yourself- when you, " we need to wait for the proof, investigation, etc: you didn't afford that opportunity to the brothers arrested( and released, lest you forget)in Germnay. Even, after the brothers in Germany were released, you continue to imply( in this thread) that they "tried to blow themselves up", which is actually a false and serious lie( or a slip of the tongue I hope). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted November 8, 2008 Originally posted by Pujah: I would like to see Susan Rice as the next Sec of State, Powell for Education, Tim Kain for Attorney General and Robert Kennedy Jr for EPA This election would have been lost without the Latino vote. The Nation's top dimplomat post should go to a competent Latino this time. Obama needs to build a more inclusive team. Bill Richardson would serve Obama very well. He is a popular Latino governor with a good FP experience. He is the man who saved Obama when the Rev. Wright contraversy was killing him on the airwaves with a big, earth-shaking endorsement. The Clintons still haven't forgiven Richardson for that endorsement. PS: Didn't Susan Rice screw up on that 3 AM ad gaffe during the primaries? I don't know if she is ready for prime time. She is also African American and this would seem rather odd to many folks out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted November 8, 2008 ^What? Is there a quota now for African Americans? They've got the top man so now Latinos, whites and Republicans need the affirmative action? Susan Rice is one of the brightest people on FP around - I hope she gets a high ranking position in this administration. Hadn't heard about a 3 am gaffe. I like Billy boy too - he would be a good pick. I thihk Obama could sew up the whole Latino vote for good by passing a sympathetic immigration bill now that Dems dominate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted November 9, 2008 You are all dupped by this euphoria. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if the people of Congo are cheering him while at this current time they are getting slaughtered. :rolleyes: If you checked the popular vote, it was even. The yankees (that includes you card carrying faraax's and xalimoos that are expecting a pay-off from this win) were split down the line. Electoral votes were won by narrow margins in some states.... It has been the pattern for the last little while, to change political parties that have had the white house for 2 consecutive terms. On to the issue of the cabinet, Bama's chief of staff is a staunch pro-israelist zionist. For those saying that it will be similiar to Clinton's administration. Do you remember a damn thing about Clinton's administration???? - It was Clinton's Administration that made the Bosnian muslims nearly extinict (arms embargo anyone? :rolleyes: ) - It was the Clinton Administration that got you folks on FLIGHT 13 from your lands. - It was the Clinton Administration that cut off funds to the impoverished Americans. - It was the Clinton Administration that made thousands of Iraqis starve to death. A snake is still a snake no matter how many times it sheds its skins. Remember how the people of Pakistan were quick to forget what Bhutto did to them and were cheering her on last year. Now her hubby is in charge. Dramatic irony or Poetic Justice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thierry. Posted November 9, 2008 Listening to Bill Clinton’s former Chief of Staff he claimed that Mr Emmanuel is hard to work with and would undermine superiors to further his goals. Now if this is true and Pres elect Obama wants to be a commander and chief in control how can he manage someone who will work against his interest. Bad move Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cara. Posted November 9, 2008 Khayr, I think what you're failing to realize is that the last 8 years have offered a bitter sense of perspective on Clinton. For example, compared to Bush's war on Iraq, the oil embargo was practically benign. Compared to Gitmo, or the warmongering demonization of Iran (if you think Rahm is a Zionist, check out the credentials on the other side), the Obama administration will be a breath of fresh air. You want the animosity towards America to stay high, but the world really can't afford to, much as it might gall you. <--Diehard Kucinich supporter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted November 9, 2008 You want the animosity towards America to stay high, but the world really can't afford to, much as it might gall you. The world? Which world? Who's interests are being represented here? You lack perspective. Blind Optimism is a heroic fault. Alexander the Great thought he could conquer the world, but fell prey to it. Sean Penn thought he could stop the Iraq war by flying to Iraq but caught a bullet instead in the azzz The gambling addict too has Blind Optimism when they are at the slot machine, fresh off a loan from the Casino! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted November 9, 2008 my dream team: Secretary of state= Samantha Powers secretary of defense= Robert Gates or John Abizaid Secretary of the treasury= Warren buffet or Hillry Clinton cause we need someone to energize all the joe six packs and joes the plumbers if this economy to make a come Spokesperson= Fareed zakaria Ambassador to the UN= Susan Rice Ambassador to Rassia= Sarah Palin Lastly, i dont care where he puts him but Obama should recruit senator Chuck Hagel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites