NGONGE Posted December 1, 2009 ^^ You see irony where there is none, dear. GJ is laughing at the French man's shock and hinting at the fact that France may actually be worse than Switzerland. That much, I can see. But I am struggling to spot any irony. On a serious note, the two issues cannot be compared. On the one hand, the Swiss government opposes the idea of a ban but is restricted by its own laws from doing anything to stop it. On the other, the French government simply banned all religious symbols from its schools. It had a logic that no matter how much you and I would disagree with would still stand up to scrutiny. The Swiss issue follows no discernable logic. One government insists on its secular traditions and bans school kids from wearing any religious symbols whilst another talks of Islamic conquests and the power of the minaret! The French minster is correct in calling it intolerance and condemning the Swiss. To his mind, to French Policy and to the way the French sold their Hijab (religious symbols) ban this is amateurish and intolerant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted December 1, 2009 Ngonge, France broke it's own laws and values. They now adhere to selective secularism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted December 1, 2009 Originally posted by NGONGE: On a serious note, the two issues cannot be compared. On the one hand, the Swiss government opposes the idea of a ban but is restricted by its own laws from doing anything to stop it. On the other, the French government simply banned all religious symbols from its schools. It had a logic that no matter how much you and I would disagree with would still stand up to scrutiny. The Swiss issue follows no discernable logic. One government insists on its secular traditions and bans school kids from wearing any religious symbols whilst another talks of Islamic conquests and the power of the minaret! The French minster is correct in calling it intolerance and condemning the Swiss. To his mind, to French Policy and to the way the French sold their Hijab (religious symbols) ban this is amateurish and intolerant. Was France not adhering to its secular traditions before the 'religious symbols' ban? What do you think was the motivation behind the sudden adoption of the ban on 'religious symbols'? Do you acknowledge that what qualifies as a 'religious symbol' is arbitrary and is solely at the discretion of the state? I think the answers to those questions will help to illustrate where the irony is coming from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites