Tillamook Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, maakhiri1 said: Maanta baroor diiq baa ku jirtaa , maalin kale haynoo ahaato. Iga gambiso maad ileedahay. Adaa Xariif xariif dhalay ah. Maalin wanaagsan sxb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted June 29, 2020 8 hours ago, galbeedi said: The constitution will be " La jiifiyaana Banaan". It is illegal to give 13 To Mogadishu without basing any constitutional means. The provisional parliament says the upper house should be 54 based on 18 provinces. Some regions who are one and half provinces like Galmudug took 8 seats. They should have gotten 4 or maximum 5. At the end this amalgamation of regions must be abolished and the federal system should be based on the original 18 provinces. I would even suggest the abolishing of the Upper House. Somalia needs one single parliament and the executive branch. Yet, at the moment, Puntland seems to be isolated politically. It is on the verge of loosing Sool and Sanaag community for good; it doesn't have good relations with South west and Hiiraan, and by pandering to Banaadir seats Farmaajo is allying himself to the " Unaka and company. Also , in terms of constitution, it is only Puntland that is safeguarding and forcing the federal government to obey. Under C/raxman Faroole, Puntland decided to abandon Sool and concentrate to federal politics only. If Puntland had decided early the establishment of Sool and Sanaag as a self standing entity, it might have created a real ally and powerful region that by default could have eliminated separatists in Somaliland. Without Sool and Sanaag Somaliland could have been reduced as a small region of Dirta woqooyi. Instead they have concentrated obtaining authority to appoint the Sool region members of Parliament to Mogadishu. I think Puntland should self examine and change the course. Few weeks ago C/laahi DEni was praising Somaliland at the expense of Farmaajo and last week he was complaining about the fake Djibouti conference. The time has come for Puntland to build real allies and concentrate for those who share their Pan-Somalism and those who stand by the constitution. Also, Farmaajo and company are weak links when it comes to HAG agenda. While he had moved the needle on the federal government and the nation, his administration has not strengthened anyone from JUbba, Sool, Awdal, Sanaag, Puntland, Gedo and others. Habar Canada fadhida legdin wax ula fudud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bootindheere Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, maakhiri1 said: Instead of resorting to personal attacks, tell what is wrong with my analysis, I was here and was against markii Xalweeyste 11 usoo qaadey Pl, and now siyaasadii hadeey isla kiin rogtey, it was military defeat against SL, and now political defeat, I would recommend you tell your leaders in Garoowe, hands off Sool and. SANAAG, waxba ma taraysaan. Runtii Walaalnimada beenta aad belahaas ku hadaanna ka jooja. All your political energy, you spend going after Dhoobo, KARAASH Instead everyday praising Biihi, who is 5 km away from Garoowe, what you going to do? We expect soon Galmudug forces to kick out pirate militias from the remaining 20% of Mudug region. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/28/2020 at 5:24 PM, maakhiri1 said: Still no idea where 13 seats for Benadir came from? It was asked to baarlamaanka by Mahad Maxamed Salaad and co. Instead of toddobo additional xildhibaanno to Aqalka Sare, he asked it to be raised to 13 xildhibaanno, ostensibly to divide it 4.5 or 5.0 equation. That is why vast majority of xildhibaanno approved it. Marka 13 xildhibaanka siyaadada ah shan meelood ayaa loo qeybsanaayaa ee maxa laga diidaa? Haddii toddobadii xildhibaan laga dhigi lahaa muranka ma dhamaadeen oo kuwa badan diidanaa in lagu qeybsado shan meelood. Reer Waqooyi Bari waa inay samraan sidee Soomaalida kale gobollada kale ka soo jeedo u samreen markii iyaga iyo kuwa Waqooyi Galbeed ka soo jeedo loogu dhigay 11 xildhibaan for no reason, population or gobol used. That was not divided for population-wise nor for each gobol of the original 18 gobollo. Soomaalida kale by getting sideed xildhibaano oo Aqalka Sare ah candhuuftooda ayee laqday that time in 2016 in order hore loogu socdo. This is against Axdiga Qaranka for each gobol of the 18 gobollo should have an equal representation ayaa ku qoran. Haddee leeyihiin Axdiga Qaranka ee kumeelgaarka ah kuma qorno, Axdiga Qaranka waxa kale ku qoran in laba gobol iyo ka badan maamul goboleed sameysan karaan taasna meesha kama dhicin. Laba gobol iyo nus ama hal gobol iyo nus maamul goboleed sameysan karaan kuma qorno. Isla Axdigaan Qaran markii la sameynaaye sanadkii 2012 waxaa ku qornaa in Aqalka Sare la dhiso isla sanadkaas 2012. Taasna ma dhicin oo Aqalka Sare 2016 la dhisay. Afar sano bilaa sharci Aqalka Sare la'aan ah dowladdii Shariifka shaqeyneysay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted June 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said: It was asked to baarlamaanka by Mahad Maxamed Salaad and co. Instead of toddobo additional xildhibaanno to Aqalka Sare, he asked it to be raised to 13 xildhibaanno, ostensibly to divide it 4.5 or 5.0 equation. That is why vast majority of xildhibaanno approved it. Marka 13 xildhibaanka siyaadada ah shan meelood ayaa loo qeybsanaayaa ee maxa laga diidaa? Haddii toddobadii xildhibaan laga dhigi lahaa muranka ma dhamaadeen oo kuwa badan diidanaa in lagu qeybsado shan meelood. Reer Waqooyi Bari waa inay samraan sidee Soomaalida kale gobollada kale ka soo jeedo u samreen markii iyaga iyo kuwa Waqooyi Galbeed ka soo jeedo loogu dhigay 11 xildhibaan for no reason, population or gobol used. That was not divided for population-wise nor for each gobol of the original 18 gobollo. Soomaalida kale by getting sideed xildhibaano oo Aqalka Sare ah candhuuftooda ayee laqday that time in 2016 in order hore loogu socdo. This is against Axdiga Qaranka for each gobol of the 18 gobollo should have an equal representation ayaa ku qoran. Haddee leeyihiin Axdiga Qaranka ee kumeelgaarka ah kuma qorno, Axdiga Qaranka waxa kale ku qoran in laba gobol iyo ka badan maamul goboleed sameysan karaan taasna meesha kama dhicin. Laba gobol iyo nus ama hal gobol iyo nus maamul goboleed sameysan karaan kuma qorno. Isla Axdigaan Qaran markii la sameynaaye sanadkii 2012 waxaa ku qornaa in Aqalka Sare la dhiso isla sanadkaas 2012. Taasna ma dhicin oo Aqalka Sare 2016 la dhisay. Afar sano bilaa sharci Aqalka Sare la'aan ah dowladdii Shariifka shaqeyneysay. Boowe, moryaanimo iyo bililiqo loo samri ma. If you’d like Benadir to become a federal member state and have the same representation like the other federal member states, then the folks advocating for that should form a government for the people of Benadir, by the people of Benadir and of the people of Benadir. A government that is independent from the Influences and gubernatorial appointments of Villa Somalia, then proceed to seek its rightful representation in both Houses of Parliament. But oh no, you want a useless Farmaajo, who has not accomplished anything substantial or beneficial for the Somali people in his tenure so far, to have the power to dispense 13 senatorial seats like some royal largess. That’s just insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted July 1, 2020 14 hours ago, Tillamook said: Boowe, moryaanimo iyo bililiqo loo samri ma. If you’d like Benadir to become a federal member state and have the same representation like the other federal member states, then the folks advocating for that should form a government for the people of Benadir, by the people of Benadir and of the people of Benadir. A government that is independent from the Influences and gubernatorial appointments of Villa Somalia, then proceed to seek its rightful representation in both Houses of Parliament. But oh no, you want a useless Farmaajo, who has not accomplished anything substantial or beneficial for the Somali people in his tenure so far, to have the power to dispense 13 senatorial seats like some royal largess. That’s just insane. Markaa 11 xildhibaan Aqalka Sare maalin cad qaadaneysay in 2016, Soomaalida kalena iska samreysay with sideed xildhibaanno, taas waaku qanacsaneyd miyaa? Mideeda kale kala saar metalaada Muqdisho/Banaadir iyo maqaamka Banaadir. Kan waa metalaad xildhibaanno laga soo dooranaayo Muqdisho inay kuraas ku yeeshaan Aqalka Sare. Golaha Shacabka xildhibaanno maba laga siin, which I think is not fair as well. Maqaamka Muqdisho is another whole issue, taas haddana ma taagna doodda. And no, it has nothing to do with madaxweyne Farmaajo. Those selected/elected in gobolka Banaadir as representatives of Aqalka Sare will be elected/selected by who they are representing same way it will happen in every gobol. Meeshaan muran ma yaalo, those 13 seats representing Banaadir was passed by baarlamaanka and if Aqalka Sare passes and signed into law by the president, then it is a law. And as I said those 13 seats will be divided into 5.0 oo ah shanta beelood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said: Markaa 11 xildhibaan Aqalka Sare maalin cad qaadaneysay in 2016, Soomaalida kalena iska samreysay with sideed xildhibaanno, taas waaku qanacsaneyd miyaa? Mideeda kale kala saar metalaada Muqdisho/Banaadir iyo maqaamka Banaadir. Kan waa metalaad xildhibaanno laga soo dooranaayo Muqdisho inay kuraas ku yeeshaan Aqalka Sare. Golaha Shacabka xildhibaanno maba laga siin, which I think is not fair as well. Maqaamka Muqdisho is another whole issue, taas haddana ma taagna doodda. And no, it has nothing to do with madaxweyne Farmaajo. Those selected/elected in gobolka Banaadir as representatives of Aqalka Sare will be elected/selected by who they are representing same way it will happen in every gobol. Meeshaan muran ma yaalo, those 13 seats representing Banaadir was passed by baarlamaanka and if Aqalka Sare passes and signed into law by the president, then it is a law. And as I said those 13 seats will be divided into 5.0 oo ah shanta beelood. What a foolish rebuttal. Trying to compare the number of senators that federal member states have to the stillborn attempts of N&N to muddy things up with these proposed 13 seats. Every astute observer understands that that shit ain’t gonna fly, —but what baffles the mind is why you would advocate for such a dead on arrival N&N political gambit that totally goes against the Federal constitution? Oh wait! I know... you think the Digir&Muufo community might get few extra scraps of representation from Benadir, right? That’s just wishful thinking on your part, because Looter’s inc will never share any ill fated largess from Farmaajo with the gudhuu community—and besides, the 4.5 power sharing agreements in Somalia are on their last legs. So don’t become the little pigly who made his home out of straws only for the big bad wolf to come huff and puff it away into smithereens. D&M should resist the temptation to build their political future on a foundation based on the 4.5 system. It was merely a gentleman’s agreement that has always had an expiry date. Representation based on districts and provinces is the final destination. So plan accordingly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bootindheere Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Amigos said: Very amusing to watch this **abayaco desperately clutching for the constitution, the same constitution that rejects his Buuqland's tribal boundaries. Horta wuxu baryo xumaa? Ultimately, representation will be based on population, the entity that stands to lose most is the yoga-practicing, high-sea-scavenging, desert dwellers of **abayaco-land, since their numbers have almost always constituted around 5% of total population. No wonder the obese calaacal-artist above is shook Riyo maalmeedka dhbyaco waa lasoo afjari doonaa mardhow Insha Allah. Filinkii Siyaad Bare iyo sadbursigii 20ka sano Somaliya lagu burburiyay oo markii tuulooyina degmooyin loo magacaabay magaalooyin kawaaweeyna qabiil naceeyb dartii loogudiiday ineey degmo noqdaan. Markaa caqilga maanta dhbyco lasoo shirtagtay waxaa weeye Nuugaal iyo Bari oo aan dhaqaale iyo tiro 100ka sano ee soo socda aan Banaadir gaareeyn in eey metaalaad isku mid ah yeeshaan. Aduunkana kamadhacdo Somaaliyana kamadhicidoonto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YaxaaS Posted July 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Timacaddeh said: The solution is simple: better trained pirates! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Bootindheere said: Riyo maalmeedka dhbyaco waa lasoo afjari doonaa mardhow Insha Allah. Filinkii Siyaad Bare iyo sadbursigii 20ka sano Somaliya lagu burburiyay oo markii tuulooyina degmooyin loo magacaabay magaalooyin kawaaweeyna qabiil naceeyb dartii loogudiiday ineey degmo noqdaan. Markaa caqilga maanta dhbyco lasoo shirtagtay waxaa weeye Nuugaal iyo Bari oo aan dhaqaale iyo tiro 100ka sano ee soo socda aan Banaadir gaareeyn in eey metaalaad isku mid ah yeeshaan. Aduunkana kamadhacdo Somaaliyana kamadhicidoonto. What’s with the name change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Timacaddeh said: They needn't have wasted that money on this "training" they supposedly provided. all you need is one of these guys p.s. I know he is fictional pirate, he just better illustrates my point Lol Timacadde, ever thought of looking into becoming a standup comic? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Amigos said: Very amusing to watch this **abayaco desperately clutching for the constitution, the same constitution that rejects his Buuqland's tribal boundaries. Horta wuxu baryo xumaa? Ultimately, representation will be based on population, the entity that stands to lose most is the yoga-practicing, high-sea-scavenging, desert dwellers of **abayaco-land, since their numbers have almost always constituted around 5% of total population. No wonder the obese calaacal-artist above is shook Ha ha It seems Mudane Tillamook, the pirate king of SOL, has once more proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he lives rent free in the heads of the secessionist idiots of SOL. Lol Ina Bucur Bacayr, Amigos, my dear daft hombre, are you here to take the side of Mudane El Presidente Farmocheesy on the issue of Benadir? Did the red carpet treatment the president recently give the hapless, helpless and hopeless secessionist administration in Djibouti turn you all into Farmaajo supporters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted July 2, 2020 Too much aflagaado and stinking caay. This thread is closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites