Socod_badne Posted March 19, 2007 I wonder what the pork thinks of all this hoopla. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faarax-Brawn Posted March 19, 2007 This is just a simple matter that got too much media attention. The MN media outlets have just been wanting and needing anything Islam. Its started with Representative Keith Ellision then followed by the US airways Imams & then the taxi drivers. All these high profile news cases are just meaningless. That girl,i beleive is a new arrivee. No one really gives orientation to these new hirees(arrivees) on how to bahave and what to say @ work. This is nothing,the girl didnt know any better and the slow news day didnt help either... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted March 19, 2007 ^^^Add that the Target Corp handled this matter quite courteously and gave all its Muslim employees the option to work in other sections without reproach! Midda kale, Target has recently started to incorporate an upscale grocery line in its merchandise! So it wasn’t an issue they have faced before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucca Posted March 19, 2007 Originally posted by Taliban: quote:Originally posted by Pucca: now my question is whether the money she earns is 100% halaal (since her employer sells pork, earns the money he pays her through those haraam goods)? Good question. Let someone other than me answer it. why not take a shot at it yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted March 19, 2007 ^xaraam caleyki! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted March 19, 2007 Originally posted by Pucca: why not take a shot at it yourself? I don't want to claim most heated arguments for myself; that would be selfish. There are those who are capable of arguing from an Islamic viewpoint (as opposed to secular viewpoint), but for some reasons are shy, ambivalent, hesitating, lazy, iwm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucca Posted March 20, 2007 since these 'shy' and 'lazy' folks arent going to say anything, you may aswell be selfish and answer if you can... then again, to prevent any heated arguments i could simply take my question to the mosque. sheh dear, aint just about everything haraam now adays?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted March 20, 2007 Originally posted by Khayr: quote: Working At Supermarket Check Out Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani I am working in Morrison's and I'm on the check outs, I wanted to know that because I am dealing with haram things such as beef, pork, ham is it haram for me to touch them things? Also is there anything I can do for e.g. I already do wudu every time I come and go from work and I always make fresh wudu when reading namaz in break times during my shifts at work. so cold you tell me what Islam says about this? Walaikum assalam, 1. It would be permitted to work on the check out of a supermarket that sells things Muslims consider impermissible (such as pork, alcohol, wine, or food items with haram ingredients). One’s earnings will be lawful (halal). This is the position of Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah have mercy on him). One should, however, dislike such items in one’s heart: loving that which Allah loves and hating that which Allah hates is from true faith. (For the reasoning, see first appended answer, below.) This ruling refers to doing so in a non-Muslim country or in non-Muslim areas in a Muslim country. 2. It is not permitted to sell such items in one’s own supermarket. If one does, it is sinful. The revenue generated from such sales is unlawful. It would be obligatory to: (a) repent from one’s error itself (through remorse, seeking forgiveness, and determining not to repeat the sin), and (b) giving away the unlawfully earned money to the poor. (See second answer below.) 3. It is not haram to touch unlawful items, especially when there is a need. Normally, meats are wrapped, and the alcohol in bottles. As such, there will be no transfer of filth (najasa) onto one’s hands or body. Given this, there is no need to renew your ablutions (wudu) before praying. It may be best, though, to wash your hands, when it is reasonably easy to do so. And Allah alone gives success. Walaikum assalam, Faraz Rabbani. Source Again this is the Hanifi response and I don't know of what the others like Imam Malik, Shafi and Ahmed ibn Hanabil's rulings are on this point. Thanks for clarifying from one viewpoint. One thing i try to avoid is to make a comment on such things without the relevant information to hand. The point here (and with the taxi drivers) is that THEY think what THEY are doing is right. Our views (informed or not) dont really matter as their intention was/is not to contravene their deen (informed or not) and for that i can only commend them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites