Faisal Cali Waraabe speaks about goings on in Mogadishu and Djibouti

[Suldaanka]

 

[gooni]

Ninkaan hadalkiisa iyo madixiisu way kala hor maraan

Soo ninkii lahaa inta saxaafada isugu yeeray muse biixi yaan maanta u tagay hooyadayna wuu caayay anigana waa isoo dhirbaaxay.

Waa ku xumahay inuusan ogayn miisaanka taladuu bixiyo ay leedahay.

Allaha caafiyo.

[Suldaanka]

6 hours ago, gooni said:

Ninkaan hadalkiisa iyo madixiisu way kala hor maraan

Soo ninkii lahaa inta saxaafada isugu yeeray muse biixi yaan maanta u tagay hooyadayna wuu caayay anigana waa isoo dhirbaaxay.

Waa ku xumahay inuusan ogayn miisaanka taladuu bixiyo ay leedahay.

Allaha caafiyo.

 

Doqontu halkii rag isku fara-saaray (dagaalay) waa ogtahay laakin halkii isku gacan-qaaday (salaamay) waa dhoohantahay.

Wixii local-politics ah khalad ha ka fahmin.

Mida kale, Faisal waa free agent, runta lama gabado xataa hadii kun ku muslimayso ama ku kufriyayso. Dadkuna waa laba, mid ku jecel runtaa u sheego, iyo mid ku neceb. 

[maakhiri1]

2 hours ago, Suldaanka said:

 

Doqontu halkii rag isku fara-saaray (dagaalay) waa ogtahay laakin halkii isku gacan-qaaday (salaamay) waa dhoohantahay.

Wixii local-politics ah khalad ha ka fahmin.

Mida kale, Faisal waa free agent, runta lama gabado xataa hadii kun ku muslimayso ama ku kufriyayso. Dadkuna waa laba, mid ku jecel runtaa u sheego, iyo mid ku neceb. 

Maxaa ka jirra in Jaajuus u ahaa Siyaad Barre,  waxan oo dhana is daahirin ka.tahay?

 

[gooni]

Dadku markay mansab la yaqaan soo qabteen yaa la aqoon karaa.

Dadkii la yaqaanay oo taariikhda fiican waqooyiga ku lahaa waa ka dhinteen alaha u naxariisto dhamaantood.

Kuwaan qoraxdu hayso yaa iminka hor taagan taariikh iyo xigmadna loogu imaan maayo.

5 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

Maxaa ka jirra in Jaajuus u ahaa Siyaad Barre,  waxan oo dhana is daahirin ka.tahay?

 

Faysal waraabe haduu shaqo fiican hayn jiray asagaa laga maqli lahaa.
 

[Suldaanka]

5 hours ago, gooni said:

Dadku markay mansab la yaqaan soo qabteen yaa la aqoon karaa.

Dadkii la yaqaanay oo taariikhda fiican waqooyiga ku lahaa waa ka dhinteen alaha u naxariisto dhamaantood.

Kuwaan qoraxdu hayso yaa iminka hor taagan taariikh iyo xigmadna loogu imaan maayo.

Bal miyaaradda isku eeg, qof qaawan oo qof kale oo asturan caayaya ,adiga mooye ma cid kale ayaa jirta? 

Bal noo sheeg madaxda aad leedahay adigu ee aad ku faanaysid? 

Anigu kolay madaxdayda vote iyo codkayga ayaan ku doorta, bal adigu maxaad la shir imanaysa? Sow Xabashi iyo Kikuuyo adiga kuuma soo xdoorin. 

kuli adhi bacaac walaw kaana baraar.

10 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

Maxaa ka jirra in Jaajuus u ahaa Siyaad Barre,  waxan oo dhana is daahirin ka.tahay?

 

Maxaa ula jeeda jaajuus? yaa se la isu daahirinayaa? 

[maakhiri1]

Suldaanka 

The story  comes back all the time, Jaajuus, spy, spying on his people for Siyad Barre regime. I have heard these stories many times in 20 years and has elements of truth.

As for daahirin, he is trying project he is nationalist,  way to cleanse and hide his past crimes.

Here again Ali Haraare on same issues

 

 

[Suldaanka]

7 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

Suldaanka 

The story  comes back all the time, Jaajuus, spy, spying on his people for Siyad Barre regime. I have heard these stories many times in 20 years and has elements of truth.

As for daahirin, he is trying project he is nationalist,  way to cleanse and hide his past crimes.

Here again Ali Haraare on same issues

Faysal is an outspoken character. Anyone who knows him, even from the days he worked in Mogadishu, says that Faisal has always been the same. His traits and character never changed. 

He does not fit the typical personality of a traitor or spy or snitch or political prostitute.  

He is consistent. He is upfront. He doesn't hide anything. 

It is just hogwash and desperate people trying to throw some mud. Mud doesn't stick on Faisal.  

[Suldaanka]

Faysal Cali Waraabe iyo Cali Khaliif Galaydh oo booqosho ku tagay magaaladda Gabiley iyo goboladda galbeedka Somaliland. 

 

 

[Old_Observer]

Waraabe is just one of a kind, unique nomad.

Let alone Somali leaders like Bixi, Farmaajo, Dini and of course the Don, even Xabeshis used to pay attention or care what Waraabe says.

Wish every region every country has one.

Of course Waraabe has most enemies. Even if they do not oppose his opinion, they hate him for the fact that he can say it and they cannot.

[gooni]

10 hours ago, TRO - AJT said:

Why would Siyaad Barre need spies in the north. You don't need the type of information that spies would provide, if you want to bomb entire cities & populations to oblivion. 

Don't believe all what you hear.learn the history, which is not very far.

The snm history is not good as they tell you.please go home and ask both sides what happened.

Waraabe siyaad barre isma aqoon sida uu maanta u hadlana uma hadli karin taas waan hubaa.

Dimuquraadiyadu looguma talo galin soomaalida dhaqankeena iyo diinteena ma waafaqsana

Shuuciyadu diinteena ma waafaqsana laakiin dhaqankeena way waafaqsantahay waana in lakala baqo.

Hadii aad doonaysaan inaad hadalkayga beenisaan ama rumaysaan  is waydii labo su'aalood.

Wixii siyaad barre ka horeeyay see ahayd soomaalidu intii ka dambeeyayna sidee noqdeen?

Nin kastoo markuu siyaad barre  dhintay ka dib kuu sheega siyaad barre waan la murmay iyo sidaas yaan kuu iri been buu kuu sheegay.

Ninka intaas awooda asagoo hadlin yuu siyaad baŕre dhintay allaha u naxariisto.

Maantana dadkii uu ilaalin jiray baa afka furtay oo laga harsan la'yahay.

[gooni]

3 hours ago, TRO - AJT said:

The question remains - Why would Siyaad Barre need spies in the north in order to massacre entire cities & populations? Answer the question this time.

Siyad barre never ordered civilian massacre, but there was street war and human shield in the city.he was a patriot wise leader protecting his country any kind of enemy either from locals cowards or outsiders.

[gooni]

16 hours ago, TRO - AJT said:

Street war? is that what you call: 

• Aerial bombardments of Hargeisa & Burco, levelling the 2nd & 3rd largest cities of that country at the time, to the ground. 
• Running out of Somali pilots to massacre the civilians, resulting in the hiring of foreign mercenaries to help bomb your own civilians.
• Indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas in several other cities
• Mass civilian executions
• Aerial bombing of fleeing refugees
• Burning alive civilians
• Killing those who wished to collect the bodies of their dead so they could bury them.
• I could go on....

Pick any of the above and I will provide evidence from external non-Somali sources that documented those atrocities.

I will say you have this going for you - unlike many cowards who hide behind empty rhetoric, you wear your colours as a defender of a genocidal war criminal proudly. 

My dear.
No need evidence.Spreading hate and false information omong the people worse than atomic bombs.

Am not denying civilian casualties but when you send bullet from your window don't blame kitchen fire to anyone.

[Suldaanka]

@gooni

You are a simpleton. Afwayne's forces were defeated in the country side, fair and square. In fact, it was Afwayne's forces that retreated from the country side and took refuge behind civilians in major population centres like Hargeisa, Burco etc.

By 1987, the SNM freely roamed the country side, due to success defeats of Afwayne forces at the borders and spectacular over rans of military bases in the country side. 

This apparent defeat was one of the reasons why Afwayne actually kissed Mingistu's shoes in Djibouti for a peace treaty. What Afwayne didn't know is that, the peace treaty itself that he signed will usher his own downfall.

The scale of Afwayne defeat can be seen from the fact that the SNM moved 3,000 of its solders from Ethiopia and brought them inside Somalia on a broad daylight. They setup camps and planned major attacks on biggest cities in the North. 

Afwayne's almost 20 year old regime could not detect the 3,000 SNM soldiers nor were they able to know the planned attacks. 

And even worse, the SNM attacked Burco on the 27th of May. And 3 days later attacked Hargeisa. We can give Afwayne the benefit of the doubt in his complete lost in Burco because it was a surprise attack. But given you had 3 days to prepare a defence for Hargeisa, that is inexcusable by any military standard.  

The only resistance the SNM faced in their attack on Hargeisa took place just 10km outside the city. And that small resistance was overran within 30 minutes. The SNM then attacked major military bases inside the city of Hargeisa including the Northern Command Centre (Birjeex), 26aad military base and 24aad military base. The SNM defeated all. 

The SNM was established in 1982 (Oct 1981 to be exact) and less than 10 years, defeated Afwayne regime. If you can come up with any other guerrilla force in the world that has seen such success, let me know. Even Fidel Castro's Rebellion took more than 12 years to defeat the government.

[Suldaanka]

Besides, most of the massacres in the North were committed between 1986 and 1988. In fact, the WSLF clan refugee melitia were one of the worse arms of the murderous regime. The head of Somalia's Janjaweed melitia (WSLF) was killed in Burco in 1988 by the SNM, he moved close to 1,000 refugee melitia from BixinDuule South of Berbera to fight the SNM in Burco. They never went back alive. Muj. Dhegoweyne's SNM wing massacred them in the Sheikh Mountains. 

After this defeat, Ina Cumar Jees came to Bali Gubadleh (the SNM HQ) and signed a peace deal to get the O-clan refugees a safe passage to Kilka-shanaad. 

Shortly afterwards the main Garaad of the Khatuumo clan also arrived in Bali Gubadleh signing a peace deal to silence the guns in Buuhoodleh, Sool, Sanaag regions.