The Enemy of Theism

[Johnny B]

Though not oftenly highlited,Faith is a critical pillar in all religious Dogmas

Plain or assumedly rational (belief-based) Faith encourages and/or calls for unapolgetic treating of Doubt and Skepticism as Faults.

Instead of demystifying and explaining the bases of their religious faiths,Theists more than willingly, take every reasonable argument that offers reasons to doubt or be skeptical about their Faith, offensive, demanding more or less a special treatment regarding their claim of knowledges possessed through their particular Faith in their particual Religion.

 

This hostile attitude towads Skepticism and all cautious doubting of immeterial realities is often forth-carried offspring from severe childhood indoctrination, hence is sometimes the only reason why a deeply religiousely faithful person finds both those who are less faithful in their eyes and those who lack Faith in that particular Religion altogether ,not to be only wrong, but to be a Threat.

Idealy , one'd think that a Faith that is not verifiable against any reality would stand no chance against one that is verifiable aginst reality, but then that Idealism would be nothing but a photographic shot of Reality under certain circumstance , moment, i.e the relativity of Reality.

 

If Skepticism and doubting were natural Faults,and having Faith in Truths as they were (told)or presented, was the robust way of gaining knowledge about our world, the concepts of knowledge and Truths would under no circumstance be subject to ascertainability, despite the Theist's claims of being certain about their knowledge of certain Truths through their Faith in their Religions, thier hostily seems to be aginst the possibility of being mistaken, namely,that their beliefs are more true as long as the probability of being wrong (by way of doubt and skepticism) is out of the question.

 

This deep denigration of being naturally skeptic and doubtful, instead of being credulous, goes further and deeper to keep the uncomfortable truths,realities suppressed as much as possible, hence, the adherences to the flip-side of promoting falsehoods that are thought to bolster the Faith.

Critically thinking, ascertaining Truths to the best of one's knowledge, being rationally unconvinced etc etc, despite the claim of being encouraged efforts, remain the very enemy of Faith.

Every Individual's effort of ascertaing the Truths of his/her alloted Faith is watched over or guarded by a ready-made circular logics who in turn are guarded by the non-doubting, never skeptic mobs of the particular Faith, hence no room for cincere individual efforts and ascertainments whatsoever,as long they don't bloster or favor the Faith, that is.

 

Why doubting, skepticism, questioning and critically thinking are the Enemy of Theism?

[Maaddeey]

^Buugaagta Culumaa'ul Kalaam-ka akhri, sidoo kale Ibnul Qayyim, Insha Allah shakkiga wuu kaa baxayaa.

 

Saxaabada shakki ayaa ku dhici jiray mar-mar, Rasuulka (SCW) ayey u sheegi jireen, waana daaweyn jiray Yaa Johnny Boy.

 

Tan su'aalahana, Caisha (RC) aad ayay Rasuulka (CS) u su'aali jirtay, markuu war u sheego ay mooddo in Aayad Qur'aan ah ka hor imaaneyso, Rasuulkuna (CS) si xikmad leh ayuu uga shaafin jiray.

 

Ilaahey ha ku hanuuniyo.

[Cara.]

Some people are skeptical about the moon landings, they think it was all staged. To these people I'm credulous and easily fooled by Hollywood special effects. To me they are conspiracy-theory nutcases. Maybe what we choose to be skeptical about vs what we accept to be true is what makes each person who they are.

[Castro]

Originally posted by Johnny B:

Why doubting, skepticism, questioning and critically thinking are the Enemy of Theism?

Not sure about other faiths but critical thinking and the pursuit of knowledge are essential in Islam. Aimless doubt and skepticism followed by disingenuous questioning are not. Of course, the Almighty guides whom he wills so a little prayer won't hurt either.

[Hassan_B]

Dear Johny,

 

You must first decide if faith in a Creator is something you desire. If so then the only way is to inquire those who have it how to get it, if not, then please mind your own business and cease this.

 

That is unless you've decided to wage war against those who believe. In which case you're an enemy to all those who believe regardless of how they came to that believe. Other then that, I wish all the best for you.

[Castro]

Originally posted by Hassan_B:

You must first decide if faith in a Creator is something you desire. If so then the only way is to inquire those who have it how to get it, if not, then please mind your own business and cease this.

Why would Johnny ask someone how they got their faith? It's not like most people climb mountains for theirs, they got it by birth awoowe.

 

Johnny, read the Quran saaxib (and stay away from Maryooley dressed in short pants)

[Johnny B]

Maaddeey,

Aisha(words of respect) probably had not benifitted much from whatever that was told her( she had to be defeated at the cost of 2000+ men) , Neither could Ali(words of respect)skip an awful death by the Sword, despite his Faith.

 

My question was why critical thinking , questioning , remaining skeptic and/or doubting are the enemy of Theism?

 

Hassan_B,

Have you decided having certain faith in certain Doctrine, without being somehow convinced?

How big are the chances that Islam is theologically wrong ?

[Castro]

Originally posted by Johnny B:

How big are the chances that Islam is theologically wrong ?

If you don't believe, it's 50-50.

[Johnny B]

Originally posted by Castro:

quote:Originally posted by Johnny B:

How big are the chances that Islam is theologically wrong ?

If you don't believe, it's 50-50.

Pascal's 50-50 wager works only on the Belief side?

[Castro]

^^^^^ lol. By definition, belief is certainty. And Pascal is rotting in hell now.

[Johnny B]

^^ One coulden't be a tad bit too certain about both the certain Beleif and Pascals's whereabouts.

[Castro]

^^^^ Allahu aclam, that's true. But you didn't get the joke.

[Johnny B]

^^^Maybe , but i thought i had a phony smile on my face last time i typed.

[xiinfaniin]

lool@ at teh above exchange

 

Johnny B, waagaad yarayd dugsi ma lagu geeyey?

[Naden]

My question was why critical thinking , questioning , remaining skeptic and/or doubting are the enemy of Theism?

Critical thinking doesn't belong anywhere near how religious education is conducted. People are Muslims because they are born into a Muslim family and are told by their parents and teachers that opting out means hell. That means burning for an eternity. With fires that are made of other people and stones.

 

If there is a self-respecting portion of the brain that has any sort of rational questioning into the teaching at the time, it would pack up its little bag and go home. A real good test of thesim's ability to win the hearts and minds of people (like a political party ) is to take hell and eternal damnation out of the equation. That ain't going to happen.

 

An alternative is to wait until people are grown-ups and then teach them a number of religions and let them choose. The hell and melting flesh business will have a more comical effect on many at this age if they've never heard it before. Like the above proposition, that ain't going to happen either.

 

In the meantime, my friend Johnny B will keep scratching his head at why people just don't question Islam (or Christianity, Judaism, Buddism) and us believers will continue to whisper acuudubillah under our breaths (feeling hell-fire bellowing and singeing arm hairs), remembering childhood stories of eternal torture rituals (ribs cracking, eyeballs squeezed out of big nomad heads, and drinking hell mates' urine)

 

Johnny B, unless you can make that stuff go away, you're messing with our indoctrination We're just trying to deal and here you are sticking your tongue at us and gloating for not hearing the Manchurian whispers.