Women in Islam according to a psycho..

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MAN'S PREROGATIVES

 

1. MAN MAY BEAT AND SEXUALLY DESERT HIS WIFE

 

The Qur'an describes the natural relationship between the husband and the wife as one of love and mercy: "He has set between you love (mawaddah) and mercy." Q. 30:21. A contemporary scholar, Sayyed Qotb sees that the love and the mercy spoken of in this verse as the natural feelings the man has for the opposite sex that was planted by the creator. Earlier scholars saw that "love" between the husband and the wife in the above verse refers to the sexual act, while "mercy" refers to the offspring of the man and his wife.[51] The important thing to note is that this love and mercy is not found in the man apart from the woman, but it is a mutual thing found in both. And the Qur'an commands men to "Consort with them (women) in kindness (ma'ruf)." Q. 4:19 According to the Dictionary of Qur'anic terms and concepts the word "ma'ruf" means "customary law; enjoining good and forbidding evil."[52]

 

Elsewhere the word is translated many times as equitable as in Usif Ali's English translation of the Qur'an.[53] In other words when women behave properly they are to be treated kindly, the treatment must be equitable according to the customary laws.

 

There is also a Hadith that describes the good husband; "The best of you are those who are the best to their wives."[54] (that Hadith is mentioned only by Tirmizi). But how far this goodness will go in difficult times, when the wife does not behave properly?

 

The man according to the Qur'an has the responsibility to admonish his wife, and the right to desert her sexually, and to beat her to correct any rebelliousness in her behaviour.

 

The Qur'an states:

 

 

"Righteous women are therefore obedient, ... And those you fear may be rebellious (nushuz) admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them."[55]

Some translators add the word lightly after 'beat them'[56] in Q. 4:34. Others like Mohammed Pickthall and Rodwell translate the word 'edrebouhon - beat them' as 'scourge them'.

 

The occasion in which Q. 4:34 was revealed sheds more light on the meaning of that verse. Most commentators mention that

 

 

"the above verse was revealed in connection with a woman who complained to Mohammad that her husband slapped her on the face (which was still marked by the slap). At first the Prophet said to her: 'Get even with him', but then added: 'Wait until I think about it.' Later on the above verse was revealed, after which the Prophet said: 'We wanted one thing but Allah wanted another, and what Allah wanted is best.'"[57]

The beating in the previous incident can hardly be described as light, unless that is what is meant by light beating. This beating comes as the last corrective measure when sexual desertion fails. Light beating after sexual desertion is an anticlimax that serves no purpose. But firm beating is the logical progression from admonishing, then sexually deserting, finally beating her. This beating must be stronger than sexual desertion to have any effect.

 

This beating however is not like the whipping of a slave,[58] but "a beating without causing injury"[59] (agreed upon).

 

So the man has the right to beat his rebellious wife as long as that beating is not like the whipping of the slave and will not result in injury.

 

The translator of Mishkat Al-Masabih wrote in a footnote of Fatwa by Qazi Khan that said beating the wife mildly is

 

 

"allowed in four cases (1) When she does not wear fineries though wanted by the husband, (2) When she is called for sexual intercourse and she refuses without any lawful excuse, (3) When she is ordered to take a bath [to clean herself] from impurities for prayer and she refuses and (4) When she goes abroad without permission of her husband."[60]

In another footnote the translator of Mishkat Al-Masabih said,

 

 

"No wife shall refuse her husband what he wants from her except on religious grounds ie. at the time of menstrual flow or fasting. Some theologians regard this refusal as unlawful as the husband may get enjoyment from his wife in other ways, by embracing, kissing etc. The duty of the wife is to give him comforts in his bed whenever he wants her."[61] (emphasis added)

This beating is the husband's unquestionable right.

 

Ibn Kathir in his commentary mentioned a Hadith on the authority of zal Ash'ath Ibn al-Qays who was visiting 'Omar and at that time. 'Omar took his wife and beat her, then said to Ash'ath:

 

 

'Memorise three things from me, which I memorised from the prophet who said: "The man is not to be asked why he beat his wife ..."'[62]

 

"Women's rebelliousness (nushuz) is a medical condition. It is of two kinds: The first is the condition when the woman delights to be the submissive partner who finds pleasure in being beaten and tortured. This is what is called Masochism. The second is when the woman loves to hurt and master and dominate the other partner. This is what is called Sadism. Such woman has no remedy except removing her spikes and destroying her weapon by which she dominates. This weapon of the woman is her femininity. But the other woman who delights in submission and being beaten, then beating is her remedy. So the Qur'anic command: 'banish them to their couches, and beat them' agrees with the latest psychological findings in understanding the rebellious woman. This is one of the scientific miracles of the Qur'an because it sums up volumes of the science of psychology about rebellious women."[65]

The above two quotations state that the Qur'anic injunction to beat the perverted masochist woman will cure her from her disorder. But will it rather increase her perversion by giving her the pleasure she sought? Will giving alcohol to the alcoholic be his remedy too? And why beat the sadist wife? Why not let her have her own way too, like the masochistic one? Why not let her beat and torture others?

 

Even if this treatment is of benefit to the minority of women who are perverted, does this justify the command to beat the wife who rebels for any and every reason?

 

Whether or not the beating of wives is justified, this is the man's right, and his alone.

 

 

I have tried reading this with an open mind yet I find a million and one things I do not agree with..obviously.

Now before I do my usual knife-wielding, nightly runs killing men I would like to know how many people here think the author is disturbed and how many agree with his distrorted view on things.. (I promise I wont mark you}

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he goes further...

 

"Paradise is under the feet of mothers."

Dr. Suhaib Hasan comments on the latter:

 

 

The [above] hadith with this wording is da'if, but its meaning is contained in the hadith of Ibn Majah and al-Nasa'i that a man came to the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) and said, "O Messenger of Allah! I intend to go on a (military) expedition, but I have come to ask your advice." He said, "Is your mother alive?" He said, "Yes." He said, "Then stay with her, for the Garden is under her feet."[71a]

It is a fact that some mothers deserve the lowest place in hell. It is logical then that Paradise is not under the feet of every mother. The statement "the Garden is under her feet" was said in regard to a particular woman, who probably was known to Mohammad for her uprightness.

 

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Lol@ the last hadith. The man is mysoginist maniac. Without being racist, the ME is traditionally a region that has hated women long before Islam, and it's only natural for them to contuinue this abuse using Islam as a shade.

 

It's all about how you take it. Remember when the Prophet said the best of you are those who are best to your wifes? I think he even repeated it in his last speech. I wonder how this author would take that phrase, he would probably say, 'No, that was misinterpreted'.

 

I think ppl are getting fatigued just by hearing the phrase 'women in islam'.

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I think ppl are getting fatigued just by hearing the phrase 'women in islam'. [/QB]

Yes the phrase is over-used especially by people trying to demean the religion and turn people away..just like this man

the awful thing is, I was sent this link by a friend who has been contemplating Islam (still is thank God), now this girl was taken aback by this authors nonsense, all she did was type "women in Islam" on google and this is what she got..

I wonder how many people do so and change their minds when they read this, its quite sad.

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Akhas, he definately has is own issues and beliefs against women in general, and unfortunately is intrepreting the hadith and Quran to suit and support his own beliefs and twisted logic.

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Paradise is under the feet of mothers."

Dr. Suhaib Hasan comments on the latter:

 

 

The [above] hadith with this wording is da'if, but its meaning is contained in the hadith of Ibn Majah and al-Nasa'i that a man came to the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) and said, "O Messenger of Allah! I intend to go on a (military) expedition, but I have come to ask your advice." He said, "Is your mother alive?" He said, "Yes." He said, "Then stay with her, for the Garden is under her feet."[71a]

It is a fact that some mothers deserve the lowest place in hell. It is logical then that Paradise is not under the feet of every mother. The statement "the Garden is under her feet" was said in regard to a particular woman, who probably was known to Mohammad for her uprightness.

Loooooooool. First of all the guy is a maniac bigot who has mother issues.

Second it's the other way arround. The Above Hadith is saxeex and the Hadith

The man is not to be asked why he beat his wife ..."'[62]

is Daif and it is rejected and agreed upon. Look Saxix Bukhari, it will list the chain of the hadith.

Everythingelse in the article is a mad man ranting probabyly cuz he is sexually frustrated and gets off pain :eek: :eek: