Eid Saturday why Somalia only?

[Haatu]

I would advise all to start attending the lessons on fiqh in their local mosques and forego their fadhikudirir session once a week. You will be wiser for it. It's as they say, the more you learn, the more you realise just how ignorant you truly are.

[Suldaanka]

3 hours ago, Haatu said:

when he said fast if you see it and break your fast if you see it, ans if it is overcast complete 30 days.

If you were castaway, far away from humanity and have no access to anything that can help you. Then you can employ those old methods. But so long that you can verity or have access to tools that can help you to verify, or know people who have access to the right tools that have better chance of verifying with lesser margin of error than you do. Then the guesstimate method becomes invalid. 

Similarly, if you have access to time and calendar, then going outside and measuring the length of your shadow to estimate if it time for Asr is such as waste of time and may not be accurate at all.  

I think the lesson the Somalis should learn from this is to leave it to those who have better tools than we do. 

I second the Uluma in the West who called Eid on Saturday should come out and apologise. 

[maakhiri1]

SULDAANKA, Masha ALLAH nailed it, 

This Uluma must realise we check the clock at mosque, for prayer time, not go out and look at the sun, and shades.

[thoroughbred]

Read this beneficial  article till the end and listen to the audio as well   as it covers topics such as when Ramadan begins and ends with the sighting of the moon.Calculations and astronomical methods.Is it a must that we all have a united start to the month? 

 

If the Moon (Hilāl) of Ramadān is Sighted in a Land, Does Everyone Have to Follow? Or Should Each Land Have its Own Moonsighting? – Abu Khadeejah : أبو خديجة

WWW.ABUKHADEEJAH.COM

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If the moon is seen in one land, is everyone obligated by the sighting of that land? It is possible that people in different lands will begin their fasting on different days in accordance with thei…

 

[thoroughbred]

some parts the above article.

''As for the people of Sunnah, then they have two positions: Firstly, those who say that one physical moonsighting suffices all the Muslims regardless of where they live―and secondly, those who say that each land has its own sighting. These two positions of Ahlus-Sunnah do not harm their unity because both opinions (or ijtihāds) are based on the Sunnah and the understanding of the Sahābah. 

As for those who rebuke us, oppose us, and utilise moon phase calculations, charts, diagrams and predictions, and come with the saying that when there is a contradiction between the physical sighting and the moon phase calculations (and predictions), then the actual physical sighting cannot be relied upon! What they mean is that acting upon the Prophetic narrations should be rejected in favour of calculations (whether they realise that or not). This is the peak of opposition to the Sunnah of Allah’s Messenger (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam)―and these opposers wish to unite the Muslims on the calculation method, and that is not possible because there is no unity upon falsehood.''

 

[Peace Action]

Almost all Muslim Scholars use calculation for negation, meaning if it is impossible to see the moon according to astronomical data, they would not accept a reported sighting. There is no arrogance in informing our Somali scholars to consult with astronomers on moon sighting so that they can avoid accepting false sighting. Those Somali scholars in the west specially bear responsibility to understand birth of the moon and location of possible sighting using astronomical data calculations.   

[Holac]

Peace Action has a point. But Haatu also has a point.