Garacad port is a great lesson for Somalis every where

[Che -Guevara]

 

[Illyria]

Garacad port, berths A & B, open for business on Sat.

 

[Illyria]

 

 

 

[maakhiri1]

It is a positve development for Somalis,  that Jimcaale billionaire should invest and build ports ,,factories to power up and employ people 

Same with Dahabshil

[galbeedi]

Garacad port means nation building by Somali standrad. 

Folks, this is big. I haven't seen Berbera port, ut I visited oth the container and oil terminal in Dooraale, Djiouti. This Garacad port is almost similar y design, the concerete wlls and the gravel barrier. One has cost over $400 million, and Garacad probably a few dozen millions.

N&N refused to attand the the begining of the first shavel to start the building , yet they went on without looking back and achieved their goal. HSM and company will probably show up tomorow for the opening cermony. 

If you build they come. Congratulations.

The company that built must be a household name.

[galbeedi]

7 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

t is a positve development for Somalis,  that Jimcaale billionaire should invest and build ports ,,factories to power up and employ people 

Same with Dahabshil

These two don't build public utility businesses like ports, electric grids, water or hospitals. They prefer guaging people with their telecome businesses and money laundering to get rich. Every penny stolen from Somaliland is deposited with Dahabshiil. Hersi Gaab might deposit $10 million stolen from the treasury and Dahabshiil will accept the deposit no questions asked.

When the real Somalis come to power , all this will be investigated. 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

21 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

These two don't build public utility businesses like ports, electric grids, water or hospitals. They prefer guaging people with their telecome businesses and money laundering to get rich. Every penny stolen from Somaliland is deposited with Dahabshiil. Hersi Gaab might deposit $10 million stolen from the treasury and Dahabshiil will accept the deposit no questions asked.

When the real Somalis come to power , all this will be investigated. 

Hormuud is a complete monopolistic corporation now. They have monopolized in all sectors - in finance, in telecommunications, in energy and power, in real estate, in transportation. Any upstart is crushed mercilessly, by force using kuwii afka duubnaa for the ultimate intimidation. They have a considerable soft power now and will soon have in their pockets the leaders.

[Illyria]

Indeed, one small. yet important step forward for the Somalis. Let us hope it (nation building) spreads, and continues in all regions.

A man, who is not a master of his affairs, is not a free man.

 

[baala xoofto]

10 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Garacad port means nation building by Somali standrad. 

Folks, this is big. I haven't seen Berbera port, ut I visited oth the container and oil terminal in Dooraale, Djiouti. This Garacad port is almost similar y design, the concerete wlls and the gravel barrier. One has cost over $400 million, and Garacad probably a few dozen millions.

N&N refused to attand the the begining of the first shavel to start the building , yet they went on without looking back and achieved their goal. HSM and company will probably show up tomorow for the opening cermony. 

If you build they come. Congratulations.

The company that built must be a household name.

Not too sure about the second phase but the first phase of Garacad Port is almost the same size as Bosaso Port both in terms of depth and quay length.  

Berbera Port before DP World investment was a first generation port facility. The same goes for Mogadishu Port, Kismayo etc.   

Both Doooraale and new Berbera Container Terminal are what industry call, 3rd generation ports. 4th Generation ports are Jebel Ali, Rotterdam and Singapore which have semi-automation.

Berbera Port will soon be joining 4th Generation ports with the newly upgraded semi-automation facility which will be opening soon. The zebra-crossing look-alike section is where containers from regional-feeders will be handled by automated robots - almost next-to-zero human involvement. Only when the STS crane is loading off or on to ship a human will be involved. 

 

[baala xoofto]

Can someone tell us what is Garacad's business case? Before Al-Bayrak  took over Mogadishu Port, Central Somalia was dominated by Bosaso Port. However, in the last 8 years, Central Somalia and South Somalia have become within the sphere of influence of Mogadishu Port. 

In my opinion, Garacad Port will fast track the demise of Bosaso Port, as it will eat into the meagre business that it still has - which is mainly reer Puntland businesses who transship via Salalah Port. 

 

[galbeedi]

4 hours ago, baala xoofto said:

Both Doooraale and new Berbera Container Terminal are what industry call, 3rd generation ports. 4th Generation ports are Jebel Ali, Rotterdam and Singapore which have semi-automation.

Certainly Berbera is huge. It is a port for the future. Berbera development was going on through diferent stages since sixties, eighties and now in the 21st century. 20 million Somalis and Oromo in DDS and Harraghe region are probably the intended market, yet less than 5% of Ethiopia's freight which is mostly relief aid of grain from the UN goes there. The natural gas pipeline  from DDS to Berbera is much closer than Djibouti, but no onw is talking about berbera. To make even things worse, the ruling class is poking the Chinese Tiger to make some poket changes from Taiwan. Berbera is an empty vessel sitting there. What is the use of first class port whose market is the 2 million people in Somaliland. no one else.

Baala Xoofto, nations and people self exmine and say: do we have to keep doing the same thing for 30 years? with 70% unemployment, 250 million budget while the world trade is passing $100 Trillion? empty airports and port in Berbera. When was the last time a 200 passenger airline landed in Berbera?

The biggest infrastructure development in the world today is the Chinese BRI and when it reaches the horn of Africa, the first projects would be probably Addis to Garacad highway or a gas pipeline fro Godey to Garacad. 

In terms of Gaeacad, the first stage is even much better than Boosaaso. Certaily this port is for the future. Those who built it are targeting for Ethiopia mostly. I agree with you that Boosaaso will certainly lose business. The advatage Boosaaso has is it is very close to Yemen, Cuman and the gulf. It could service these nations with livestock trade and small marchendise, but big container freight will go to Garacad. Also, unlike Boosaaso, Garacad has the climate of the Indian ocean like Mogadishu which will atract more people. Boosaaso is unbearable during the summer months. Boosaaso is already dysfuctional due to the gread of Puntland leaders by pocketing few millions and giving the shop to the corrupt Arabs.

Anyway, as mentioned , we hope this Garacad thing spreads to other regions like Lughaya port and throughout the region. You don't need the world bank or Dubai port to build things.

[Samafal]

5 hours ago, baala xoofto said:

Not too sure about the second phase but the first phase of Garacad Port is almost the same size as Bosaso Port both in terms of depth and quay length.  

Berbera Port before DP World investment was a first generation port facility. The same goes for Mogadishu Port, Kismayo etc.   

Both Doooraale and new Berbera Container Terminal are what industry call, 3rd generation ports. 4th Generation ports are Jebel Ali, Rotterdam and Singapore which have semi-automation.

Berbera Port will soon be joining 4th Generation ports with the newly upgraded semi-automation facility which will be opening soon. The zebra-crossing look-alike section is where containers from regional-feeders will be handled by automated robots - almost next-to-zero human involvement. Only when the STS crane is loading off or on to ship a human will be involved. 

 

What is the depth of Berbera port?

[Illyria]

This reminds me of a repartee between B. Gates, and S. Jobs in the mid 2000s, where Jobs was talking up the smart device, and Gates opined: why on earth does any one want a boxy palm device when one could have a thin laptop - MSFT was secretly incubating the Surface tablet idea at the time; here, Gates could not envisage the paradigm shift on the horizon, albeit mostly financed novel, if critical Apple projects (the two being close friends). Now, S. Wozniak's take, the de facto Apple engineer, who built the first Mac, was of a different kind.

Garacad port facts (metre):
Depth: 10.25m - 15.5m (berths A - D)
Width: 120m - 157m

Freight tonnage: 10 - 30 thousand ton ships (berths A - D).

Depth of other local ports (metre) *:
Kismaayo:  11m serves** 511 thou
Mogadishu:  10m serves 1.4 million
Berbera: 10m serves 232 thou
Bossaso:  8m, the smallest in the country, serves 1.2 million.
*  to be confirmed.

** Serves in terms of population.

Distance to (km):
Galkacyo 240,

Tuur Dibi (Xadka DDS) 303,
Boosaaso 920,
Muqdisho 750,
Berbera 1,400

Funds earmarked for the project were 305 million with less than a third of the funds being used, and even though unconfirmed, the first toll-based private road might be built to connect Garacad to Tuur Dibi. The Wadaagsan group are advised to consider funding the road project, since they have got the funds in hand, and fold it into the bigger port project. As costed, they could recoup the investment in less than 10 years. A worthy investment, methinks.

[Che -Guevara]

1 hour ago, Illyria said:

This reminds me of a repartee between B. Gates, and S. Jobs in the mid 2000s, where Jobs was talking up the smart device, and Gates opined: why on earth does any one want a boxy palm device when one could have a thin laptop - MSFT was secretly incubating the Surface tablet idea at the time; here, Gates could not envisage the paradigm shift on the horizon, albeit mostly financed novel, if critical Apple projects (the two being close friends). Now, S. Wozniak's take, the de facto Apple engineer, who built the first Mac, was of a different kind.

Garacad port facts (metre):
Depth: 10.25m - 15.5m (berths A - D)
Width: 120m - 157m

Freight tonnage: 10 - 30 thousand ton ships (berths A - D).

Depth of other local ports (metre) *:
Kismaayo:  11m serves** 511 thou
Mogadishu:  10m serves 1.4 million
Berbera: 10m serves 232 thou
Bossaso:  8m, the smallest in the country, serves 1.2 million.
*  to be confirmed.

** Serves in terms of population.

Distance to (km):
Galkacyo 240,

Tuur Dibi (Xadka DDS) 303,
Boosaaso 920,
Muqdisho 750,
Berbera 1,400

Funds earmarked for the project were 305 million with less than a third of the funds being used, and even though unconfirmed, the first toll-based private road might be built to connect Garacad to Tuur Dibi. The Wadaagsan group are advised to consider funding the road project, since they have got the funds in hand, and fold it into the bigger port project. As costed, they could recoup the investment in less than 10 years. A worthy investment, methinks.

On a different now, how much is the land in Garacad going for?

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

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