Why Northerners speak the true English Language

[N.O.R.F]

27 March

Northerners speak true English: are you having a laff?

Posted by Laura

 

Who put the R in bath? Surely this is a trick question, you may think, there is no R in bath. But if you search hard enough in certain parts of Britain the rogue consonant is there - squatting erroneously between the A and the T.

So which linguistic criminals are to blame? The Americans? Nope. They may have been guilty of savagely stealing the U from honour, colour and glamour, and ruthlessly usurping poor S from its position among realise, organise and their lexical brethren so they could replace it with the rather radical Z, but we can’t pin this one on the English-speakers across the pond. If we want to uncover who really put the R in bath we need look no further than England’s great capital.

 

London, home of the Queen and the apparently “proper” English speakers, is actually to blame for the mutated pronunciation. According to an expert at the British Library, the Telegraph reports today, the R sound in words such as laugh and bath only came about 150 years ago when Londoners adopted the trend into their speech. Apparently, the entire nation used the bath and "laff" pronunciations about 250 to 300 years ago – a tradition which is still alive and kicking in northern England. The south gradually adopted an “aa” sound which, over time, became the familiar “barth” of the ubiquitous London and Home Counties drawl of today.

 

So this in effect suggests it is northerners - often ridiculed for their flat-sounding vowels, overlooked as newsreaders for not speaking in a way the general population (well, the population south of Watford) can understand, and stereotyped as being poorer and somehow intellectually inferior because their paths, laughs and baths lack the pedigree of the mysterious invisible R – are actually speaking in what is historically the nation’s true voice.

 

As a northerner in London I have to say the phonetic grass (not grarse) definitely gets greener as you head up the M1. London may have slowly eroded the northerly twang from some of my words; I now drink Coke, not Cerk, and think ice is cold, not curled, but you will never find an R in my bath. And the British Library research shows this phonetic northern identity shall remain. This week it launches a website dedicated to accents and dialects – Familiar Voices - c*****ng the evolution of the “a” sound across Britain. It has found the “ar” is spreading among the accents of southern England as Londoners move out of the capital, but it is highly unlikely to venture much beyond that due to a near-impenetrable dialect boundary which runs from Birmingham to The Wash.

 

The changes are attributed to more fluid movements of people within Britain. And, whereas historically southerners were slightly more fickle in their dialect trends, those in the north have been steadfastly loyal to their A sounds.

 

Will this mean elocution pedants will re-evaluate their curriculum to incorporate the traditional, phonetic sounds spoken by northerners? Will the BBC replace its plummy-voiced breakfast presenters with down-to-earth tones of Yorkshire, Geordie or Scouse accents? And will this finally bring an end to the barth or bath debate once and for all? I suspect northerners will defend their accents as vociferously as they always have done – and southerners will still insist they are speaking “the Queen’s English”. But with more than 300 years of history behind an R-free bath, only one question remains: “Who’s larfing now?”

 

What do you think? Do northerners or southerners win the pronunciation battle?

 

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[Taliban]

Aha. I thought this was about reer Waqooyi speaking true English in addition to true af-Soomaali.

[N.O.R.F]

^^Well the Af-Somali goes without saying

 

"What we're hearing are wonderful new voices with vowel sounds from places like Jamaica and Asia mixed with more familiar accents. Take the boxer Amir Khan. If you close your eyes and listen, it's obvious he's an Asian lad. But at the same time he couldn't be from anywhere other than Lancashire."

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[Baluug]

I don't know what the hell you Brits speak, but over here in Canada, we speak English!!

 

P.S. Anyone seen Russel Peters video "Outsourced"? Where he is speaking like a Brit? "I'm from England. Aaaahhhh!"

[Jacaylbaro]

How come there is R in BATH ???

[Taliban]

Originally posted by Northerner:

Well the Af-Somali goes without saying

Waar bal iska waran? Xaaskii iyo caruurtiina?

[N.O.R.F]

Waar reerku wey ladanyihine,

 

JB, people who live in the South say Barth or laarf (laugh) as they think this is 'posh' (Queen's English) but we northern folk call a spade a spade. We are simple people who dont care about image. We would say bath or laff (laugh) as they should be said.

 

Is that alreyt for you aa-kid?

[Jacaylbaro]

hahahahha@Barth and Laarf ,,,,,

 

 

Inaalillaaah ,,,,,,,,,, waar kuwaas gurmad bay u baahan yihiin ,,

[Ms DD]

Never heard of Barf.

[NGONGE]

^^ That's because you never heard Val speak

A right chav she is.

 

ps

Does Jb realise who you are?

[Ms DD]

^^ I used to feel warmth from him, but now that he thinks I am a man..the cold front is hitting me

 

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Ngongow..I worry for you ninyahow. Miyaad ku khafiiftey Val?

[RedSea]

dhucdhu iyo dheylo.loooooooool...funny nick..

 

Kaalay what is that in your avator, that is creepy animal? :eek:

 

Taliban,

 

haye taaliban see tahay aboowe, mafiicnidoo, maxaa iskugu kaa dhacaya? tit for tat.

 

MCXamar:

 

Hey bro, I can't say much about Canadian accent, it's bit softer than American. I can speak good British accent, as well as yes my heavy and thick American accent.

[Che -Guevara]

haye taaliban see tahay aboowe, mafiicnidoo, maxaa iskugu kaa dhacaya? tit for tat.

who da hell talks like dat. Atleast get it right.

[Fanisha]

Originally posted by Dhucdhuc & Dheylo:

Ngongow..I worry for you ninyahow. Miyaad ku khafiiftey Val?

[Taliban]

Originally posted by Muj. Red Sea:

haye taaliban see tahay aboowe, mafiicnidoo, maxaa iskugu kaa dhacaya?

Waa laguu roonyahay, wax walbana waa iska caadi, sxb. Mahadsanid.