Abtigiis vs ONLF

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

What is up with Abtigiis and his sudden antagonistic, hostile actions towards to halgamayaasha JWXO? And now he is demanding apology from them for their long struggle. Yaab.

Madaxweyne Cagjar: ONLF waa in raaligelin buuxda ay ka bixiso xasuuqii ay geysatay

Madaxweynaha dowlad deegaanka Soomaalida Mustafe Muxumed Cumar (Cagjar) oo ka hadlayey dagaalkii jabahadda ONLF ayaa sheegay in intii ay ku guda jireen halgankaasi ay dileen dad badan oo shacab ahaa.

Cagjar ayaa ka dalbaday hoggaanka sare ee ururkaasi oo haatan soo afmeeray dagaalkii uu waday inay raaligelin iyo garowshiyo buuxda ka bixiyaan ‘xasuuq’ uu sheegay inay geysteen, xilligii ay dagaalka ku jireen, sida uu hadalka u dhigay.

“Madaxda ururka ONLF waa in ay ka xishoodaan shacabka, waa in aysan dadku u sheegin in dagaalka uu ahaa mid ehel, balse ay dadka u caddeeyaan in dagaalkooda halganka ee gumeysi diidka lagu laynayayay rayidka.” ayuu yiri Madaxweyne Cagjar.

Sidoo kale wuxuu intaasi ku daray inay muhiim tahay in hoggaanka ONLF ay horyimadaan shacanka, una cadeeyaan khaladaadkii ay horay uga galeen.

“Hoggaanka ONLF waa in ay shacabka hor yimaadaan oo ay u caddeeyaan dagaalka, looma baahno in xiligaan dadka murugsan dib loo dhaawaco maskaxdooda, dadka gubanayo ee ehelkooda la dilay waxa kaliya ay u baahan yihiin waa in raalli gelin buuxda lasiiyo” ayuu markale yiri Madaxweynaha is-maamulka Soomaalida ee Itoobiya.

ONLF oo muddo dheer dagaal dhiig badan uu ka daatay ka waday dhulka Soomaalida ee dalka Itoobiya ayaa sanadkii 2018-kii heshiis la gashay Ra’iisul wasaaraha wadankaasi, Dr. Abiy Axmed oo isbedallo ballaaran sameeyey, tan iyo markii uu talada la wareegay.

Xigasho

[Holac]

@Abtigiishas become a stooge for the ambitious Amhara oligarchy. 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

He is right onlf is a terrorist organisation and they took allot of lives not just amhara or tigray but allot of  the same clan they claim to fight for. 

[Mourad1]

By all means necessary. Thousands over thousands young men have given their lives in order to stop Xabashi’s oppression in last century and the sad part is that the struggle is still not over. So this is not the time to dig into the past and start pointing fingers. 
 

ONLF is not the right organization for the struggle nor do they have the right motives. However, they are the only ones who oppose the XabashiS unapologetically. So Cagjar’s ability to openly express his opinion in Jigjiga is in large parts thanks to ONLF. So let’s keep the struggle alive and leave divisive topics to the side. We Somalis have bigger fish to fry. 

[Haatu]

2 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

He is right onlf is a terrorist organisation and they took allot of lives not just amhara or tigray but allot of  the same clan they claim to fight for. 

Get out of here with your cheap clan hate. Halganka halyeeyada maxaa ka taqaantaa? Qabiil nacayb uun baa kaa hadalsiinayaa duq yahow waalan. Dad haddaad terrorist u yeeri, adeerradaa iyo ina adeerradaa ka bilow.

[Haatu]

Abtigiis is a stooge. We all seem to be forgetting that he was handpicked by Abiy. I don't know why people expect him to act any differently.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Truth hurts  the onlf is a failed organisation they have been in the bush since 1984. Its a failed silly subclan organisation and it will never amount to anything. I know the truth hurts laakin that's the reality on the ground. And ina cagjar is there to rehabilitate them back into the Ethiopian society. 

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, Haatu said:

Abtigiis is a stooge. We all seem to be forgetting that he was handpicked by Abiy. I don't know why people expect him to act any differently.

Lesson of the color revolutions and good sounding good looking slogans:

If you see someone accusing another without concrete facts, without alternatives, without way to correct the others mistakes...etc rest assured the new guy is going to do the same only differently.

If somebody shouts corrurption, corruption without facts and also how to prevent the next corrupt..it means he is telling you let me have my turn the other guy has taken enough.

 

Illey was accused of very contradictory things:

Somalis were told Illey is "devil" incarnate, cruel, torturer, murderer and he belongs to this clan....

Amxara were told Illey is this Somali snake who has finished preparation to separate Kililka and the Tigray are not going to do anything about it.

Oromo were told that Illey is typical Somali nomad who will invade you if he continues arming and training Somali Nomads. Illey is secretly wotrking with ONLF..etc.

 

Facts are:

Ethiopia did not accuse Illey of any cruelty or anything of what happened to Somalis

Contrary Illey is accused of what happened to Amxara when Illey was under house arrest by army already.

Cagjar accuses Illey of being separatist and teaching hate of Amxara rule. For that Cagjar is told "you are next candidate for prime minister when we have unitary system and an amXara is president.

 

[Old_Observer]

4 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

He is right onlf is a terrorist organisation and they took allot of lives not just amhara or tigray but allot of  the same clan they claim to fight for. 

Kililka is a reflection of all Somali people. Every clan is represented in the territory.

It has become a habit that if one clan is with Amxara the other is with British or Italian. You are just a continuation of that.

ONLF at different times has tried and done fairly well in uniting the Somali people. ONLF was part of the group that achieved autonomy that you do not seem to mind throwing it away just to hate on ONLF and friendship with Amxara.

No matter what  happens in Ethiopia Amxara will never be even one tenth of what they used to be.

Amxara do not brag Xabesha anymore, since the only real Xabeshi is Tigray

Amxara have no hope of their language to continue in use...give it 10 years will be gone

Amxara cannot change the federal system and as long as that system is alive they have no chance on earth..

ONLF is actually back at 91 when it has full support of all Somalis in North. Djibouti, Somaliland and Puntland for sure. ONLF had delegation sent all three and made up what ever went wrong during Meles days.

 

 

 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

15 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

Lesson of the color revolutions and good sounding good looking slogans:

If you see someone accusing another without concrete facts, without alternatives, without way to correct the others mistakes...etc rest assured the new guy is going to do the same only differently.

If somebody shouts corrurption, corruption without facts and also how to prevent the next corrupt..it means he is telling you let me have my turn the other guy has taken enough.

 

Illey was accused of very contradictory things:

Somalis were told Illey is "devil" incarnate, cruel, torturer, murderer and he belongs to this clan....

Amxara were told Illey is this Somali snake who has finished preparation to separate Kililka and the Tigray are not going to do anything about it.

Oromo were told that Illey is typical Somali nomad who will invade you if he continues arming and training Somali Nomads. Illey is secretly wotrking with ONLF..etc.

 

Facts are:

Ethiopia did not accuse Illey of any cruelty or anything of what happened to Somalis

Contrary Illey is accused of what happened to Amxara when Illey was under house arrest by army already.

Cagjar accuses Illey of being separatist and teaching hate of Amxara rule. For that Cagjar is told "you are next candidate for prime minister when we have unitary system and an amXara is president.

 

Oh, maan. The Tigrey agent thinks we are some fishes with some flimsy memories. As always giving Cabdi Ileey a glowing admiration while at the same time always downplaying Ileey's atrocities and gross human rights abuses against other Soomaalis in Soomaali Galbeed, including continued rapes of innocent Soomaali girls by his Tigrey-trained war criminal militia and torturing Soomaali elders.

[Old_Observer]

MMA,

Have you ever heard the saying - Its much easier to deceieve people first time and almost impossible to show them that they have been deceived.-

Check the court papers in Ethiopia, even the flimssy ones the go vernment presented:
1. Illey was a separatist who wanted to destroy unity of Ethiopia
2. Illey has encouraged the Somali youth equivalent to Oromo Qero..to burn Churches, expel Oromos...danger to unity of country and resulting in loss of life on Christians.

Do you see anything there what Illey may or maynot have done to his fellow Somalis?

NONE
What does that tell you?
1. All that face book propaganda could have been manufactured
2. It was not important enough for Abiy or Cagjar once Illey was removed from the chair they were after.

You have been had.

[gooni]

Kilinka
Caam ahaantiis magiciisa saxdaa waa soomaali galbeed
Qof qori deegta saaray oo aan dambi ka gelin dad kaloo soomaaliyeed ma jiro xataa haduu doono geel ha la joogo.

Waxaa ila fiican inaan "uus" la kor istaagin oo dhinac laga maro.

Wixii dhintay ama jabhad magaceed halagu dilo ama qabiil ama jufo halagu dilo waa xisaab soomaali account'geeda ka baxday, dib yaan loogu noqon aragtidayda.

Xusbiyada siyaasadda haday is riixayaan shalay, yaysan dooda ka bilaabin ayagoo heli kara maanta iyo beri.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

On 4/16/2020 at 1:20 AM, Old_Observer said:

MMA,

Have you ever heard the saying - Its much easier to deceieve people first time and almost impossible to show them that they have been deceived.-

Check the court papers in Ethiopia, even the flimssy ones the go vernment presented:
1. Illey was a separatist who wanted to destroy unity of Ethiopia
2. Illey has encouraged the Somali youth equivalent to Oromo Qero..to burn Churches, expel Oromos...danger to unity of country and resulting in loss of life on Christians.

Do you see anything there what Illey may or maynot have done to his fellow Somalis?

NONE
What does that tell you?
1. All that face book propaganda could have been manufactured
2. It was not important enough for Abiy or Cagjar once Illey was removed from the chair they were after.

You have been had.

You and I both know wuxuu eeygii Cabdi Ileey ahaa. Marka don't even bother ina noo carfisid xaarkaas Tigrey stooge ahaa.

[Old_Observer]

On 4/14/2020 at 3:24 PM, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Truth hurts  the onlf is a failed organisation they have been in the bush since 1984. Its a failed silly subclan organisation and it will never amount to anything. I know the truth hurts laakin that's the reality on the ground. And ina cagjar is there to rehabilitate them back into the Ethiopian society. 

You do not think the establishment of Kililka was great success?

You do not think self government was not a success?

A lot has been achieved and ONLF was part of most of it. ONLF even participated on something they did not like initially like Liyu or educational system.

ONLF also had improved a lot in the last decade. They had minimum obstruction on eduacation, health and development activities. I know where Kililka brought Ethiopian engineers from other Ethnics and made them work in far away small villages without any security risk from ONLF.

ONLF just missed the negotiation with Illey. ONLF should have accepted everything and entered Jigjiga while Illey was transitioning and be first in Ethiopia long before Abiy or anyone has come to power. Would have been smooth transition and Amxara could not have done anything to dismantle Radio, TV, Education, Liyu, Construction companies...etc that they are doing now.

 

 

 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

If a real, feasible elections were held in Soomaali Galbeed, there is no doubt ONLF will win a landslide.

However, I doubt if there ever will a credible election in Soomaali Galbeed.