Munich vs Damadola

[Sayyid]

Actually the film produced crticism from all parties concerned.

 

Both Jews and Palestians were angry at their portrayal.

 

This shows us that you can't please anyone is a no win no win situation trying to make sense of what happened.

 

Spielberg is a jew who works for the interest of his folk. I only watched two of his films both forcibly one was jurassic park and the other one Schindler's list, which I watched during one of my history classes at high-school.

 

Orthodox Jews hate him but for the rest he's a hero.

 

I can't see what he would get from making such a controversial film and thereby pi*sing off alot of people.

 

Terrorism shouldn't be something that should be encouraged whether state or group sponsered for that matter.

 

Muslims have to start within themselves before pointing the finger to the west. A collective rethinking is required. By overthrowing regimes we wouldn't achieve much because change has to come from the masses and not from few die-hard Taliban inspired fanatics.

 

I remember during the first gulf war when the americans set up their camps in KSA, which led to a violent and angry condemnation from the muslism who lived in the Kingdom. A group of young inexperienced suggested to declare a jihad and to overthrow the house of saudi and to attack the american camps but fortunately Sheikh Albaani may Allaah have mercy on him appealed to their concious to not seek chaos and instability.

 

Even though the decision of the Saudi government was weak and scandalous nevertheless it was issued by the legitimiate leaders of Saudi-Arabia thereby making it hard to rebel against it. In the quran we can make alliances with other groups although one is discouraged of making an alliance with a much stronger party because they could overhelm you after you defeat the enemy with the help of your alliance.

 

Inshallah change will come with new people and with a new breed of generation because the old generations aren't able to produce anything constructive for the muslims at large.

 

Muslim leaders are greedy and too much concerned with their livelihoods and the free humanitarian and military aid they get for free in return for being an obedient servant.

[Nur]

Kashafa bro.

 

OK, we all see whats happening, so was our Messenger Mohamad when he witnessed what was happening to Al Yasser, he said, Sabran yaa Aal Yasser, your next station is Paradise.

 

I also know its annoying to witness double standards (aka Nifaaq) from the part of modern day "Islamic organizations" like CAIR, headquartred in western societies, however, when you count your cards at the end of the day, if the increasing number of widows and orphans among Muslims is diheartening you, you can be sure that other alternatives will create more of the same. Insanity is expecting a different result while doing the same thing.

 

From another point of view Kashafa saaxib, there is a proven method of neutralizing your enemy, dont act like him, rise above him in moral termst Restraint aint weakness, its a strategy to limit your losses in face of limited options, whats truly a weakness is to react violently without forseeing the price of your actions in real terms.

 

Lastly, two things must not be mixed, Islam as a message and a liberating force for mankind from injustice in one hand and on the other , the immediate injustices that are casued by those in need for Islam's message due to their ignorance of the same, becasue, what is happening to Muslims today world wide is what they have justly earned by their collective negligence iand failure to uphold the tenets of Islam and their failure to invite others to embrace their faith in a wise and kind a way.

 

Our Prophet Muhammad, early on in Mecca, had walked the same path before us, in his days , slavery , mans oppression of fellow man, was at its peak, degradation of women and oppression of Arabas by the Romans and Persians was the landscape. Had the Prophet taken his sword in the beginning to fight for the oppressed masses at the time, His message would have failed for sure, miserable people are their own enemy, so instead he focused on delivering the message completely while overlooking the immediate injustice in the early Meccan years. In other words, he ignored them to help them later, together with their enemy.

 

In short 23 years, the faith prevailed, injustice was rooted out and Islam was spread with zeal to the farthest corners of the world to deliver Gods message to Gods people with success.

 

We are again back to square one, the Meccan years, Muslims are finding themselves where Jews found themselves in Pharoah's Kingdom, humiliation, oppression, their boys being slaughtered and women saved for labor force, It can be argued that we are no longer in Mecca, however, planet earth is flat again, there is no where to hide, ask Bin Ladin if he can find enough caves for all Muslims.

 

If following the footsteps of the prophet is what we all agree on, it may be wise to walk wher he walked on all issues, graceful restraint was his land mark, and forgiveing of his enemies was his greatest legacy, after all, Allah said " Laqada kaana lakum fii Rasuulillah uswatun Xasanah liman kaana yarjuullaaha wal yawmal aakhir wa dhakaraAllaaha kathiiraa" " Indeeed, there was a good model for you ( to emulate) in the person of the Messenger of Allah for those among you who hope for ( Mercy) of Allah and the (Justice) of day of Judgement and (who also) have factored Allah into all of their actions and words "

 

 

Nur

[Haneefah]

Originally posted by Nur:

what is happening to Muslims world wide is what they have justly earned by their collective negligence iand failure to uphold the tenets of Islam and inviting others to embrace their faith in a wise and kind a way.

Precisely!