Sharmarkee Posted October 17, 2006 Originally posted by Paragon: Murad, the coast is clear markaa . OO Kaalay Adigu listada minyaradana waad ku jirtaye, kana Misyar Marriage-kana ma ku jirta, Aar tan ookale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 17, 2006 On the same fatwa on which the Saudi Mullahs legalised this misyar marriage, they also legalised another type of marriage called: a friend marriage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haashim Posted October 17, 2006 Ninkii doonaa ha hadlo SMta wax Misyaar uga fiican heli mayaan :cool: Waa wexeenna aan isku darsanno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted October 17, 2006 LoL @ NG. And what might a 'Friend Marriage' involve? I'm puzzled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 17, 2006 ^^^ It does exactly as it says on the tin, dear. The wife stays in her parents’ house and the husband stays in his parents’ house. He can visit her at anytime and take her anywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted October 17, 2006 Oh I see. A license to shag. Anything to make life easier for the poor sods who can't maintain a family but who also want their piece of the cake. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 17, 2006 ^^ You don't approve? :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zafir Posted October 17, 2006 What I have to say, I'll say it only after iftar. Friend marriage. splendid! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted October 17, 2006 I thought that I might share this.... Shia's view Shia are glad that some Sunni have come to the conclusion that Nikah Mut'ah fills a necessary social function in giving laws for those who need it. At the same time Shia look with a humoristic disbelief on the people who refuse acknowledge that Umar made a innovation in forbidding Nikah Mut'ah, and rather innovate their own inferior version of Nikah Mut'ah, a version without Quranic support, not giving the woman the right to know how long the marriage is supposed to last. Since it is stated by Sunni Scholars that it is not permissible to stipulate a date of divorce, Shia view this form of marriage as deception and a gross sin towards the woman entering a marriage without knowing that the husband has the hiden intends to divorce after a period. Shia also view this as playing with the concept of Nikah and damaging its concept of being a permanent marriage, since the Sunni scholars deeming it Halal do so in belive that it is ultimately a normal Nikah, with the same rules, although changed by the couple. Source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms DD Posted October 18, 2006 Muslim reports this in his Sahih (Authentic Collection of Hadiths), mentioning that Al-Juhani was with the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) at the conquest of Makkah and that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) gave some Muslims permission to contract mut`ah marriages. Al-Juhani said: "Before leaving Makkah, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) prohibited it." In another version: "Allah has made it Haram until the Day of Resurrection." What is this world coming to? Misyar marriage is legalised version of Shia's muttah marriage. Even though the scholars are careful putting time frame of the marriage as this would make it Mutta marriage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms DD Posted October 18, 2006 Misyar marriage explained from Islamic point of view: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544160 Still wey iga degi la'dahay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 18, 2006 Misyar marriage can be defined as a marriage contract between a man and a woman, in which the woman waives some of the rights she would have in a normal Islamic marriage. This sometimes takes place when, for example, there are many women who, as they get older, find it increasingly difficult to marry. In this case a woman opts for a husband who is not able to fulfil the normal marital duties like financial maintenance, or spending adequate time with her, for example. She considers that marrying such a husband is better than remaining unmarried. It’s noteworthy that once a marriage contract meets its Shari`ah requirements, it will be acceptable from the Islamic point of view irrespective of what people call such contract. Conditions of valid marriage are: The consent of both spouses, the consent of the wali (guardian), the payment of the dower, the presence of the witnesses, and the announcement of the contract. It goes without saying that valid marriage should not be limited to a certain period of time; otherwise it will be reckoned as a mut`ah (temporal) marriage which is prohibited in Islam. Dealing with this subject, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states: Misyar marriage should be viewed as a form of legal relationship between man and woman regardless of any description attached to it. This is pursuant to the juristic rule: "What matters most in contracts are motives and meaning, not the wording or structure." Therefore, in determining the legal nature of this marriage, we should not judge things according to names, for as we know, people feel free in naming or describing something. Stipulating certain details in the marriage contract on both sides is acceptable. For example, some scholars maintain that a woman has a right to determine the timing of marriage; i.e., it can take place at day or night, however, she can also waive this right. Therefore, based on what has been mentioned, we can state that misyar marriage, or something in similar form, has been in practice from time immemorial. It also serves the purpose of some women, who, for instance, may be rich but happen to be unable to marry at the proper time. So, such women can opt for this kind of marriage. But I do have to make it clear that the aforementioned statement does not make me a protagonist of misyar marriage. In all my fatwas and sermons, it is not mentioned anywhere that I give any support for such marriage. The point is that when I was asked by a journalist to state my opinion regarding this marriage, I found it a pressing religious duty to give a clear-cut opinion on something that does not make unlawful what Almighty Allah has made lawful for His servants. Therefore, if anyone seeks my opinion on this marriage, I must reply him saying: What do you mean by misyar marriage. Then, if I get an explanation that shows that in misyar marriage, all the Islamic legal requirements are met, then the marriage is valid. Those requirements are: an offer and acceptance from both parties; a specified dowry, according to the Qur'anic verse: [And give unto the women, (whom ye marry) free gift of their marriage portions] (An-Nisaa' 4: 4), and that the contract wins the consent of the guardian. Thereby, no one has the right to brandish it as unlawful. There is no doubt that such marriage may be somehow socially unacceptable, but there is a big difference between what is Islamically valid and what is socially acceptable. As we know, people can be cynical about the idea of an employee marrying his employer. But who can deny the validity of such a marriage if it meets all the legal requirements? This issue, therefore, needs a cautious approach. One should not feel free to condemn an act as absolutely forbidden, merely on social repugnance. Rather, one needs to have convincing evidence to determine the legal nature of each particular act. I'm still sceptical on this one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Som@li Posted October 18, 2006 Misyar marriage is getting quite popular in Saudi Arabia, and this fatwa was issued after finding that Millions of Saudi women cant find a husband.. This is a clear WIN WIN situation, as most men who go in this system, are aleady married, and cant build a new home, and for Women,they get HALAL way to fulfill their needs!!! For most of you, this may seem strange, but will know the reason behind this misyar, and also friend mariege,(which is for students,lol) after studying the social system is KSA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 18, 2006 ^^What are the chances of this taking a trip across the red sea? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
