So much for Controlling Somali Air Space. Ethiopia Airline will continue its scheduled services to Somaliland... will stop Somalia (inc. Puntland)

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

This is excellent news  this puts Somalia and Somaliland further apart. The supposed talks scheduled isn't going to happen now. 

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1 hour ago, Tallaabo said:

I don't think this has anything to do with China but has everything to do with a nation's capacity to control its airspace. 

If for instance Somaliland had an air force with the capability to intercept any aircraft, it could effectively close its airspace to international airlines and force ICAO to recognise it as a separate entity. If a capable air force cannot be found then at least Somaliland should develop the technical capability to jam all communications and GPS signals used by the airliners to turn its airspace into a black hole. This tactic can also force all airlines to take a long detour around Somaliland and thus have the same effect with ICAO.

So until Somaliland gets such capabilities which I doubt it will ever have, Mr Muuse and Co should explore other options. 

Absolutely that is a must. 

 

 

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Somaliland oo xayiraad saartay dayaaradaha soo mara Somalia in aanay Somaliland ka soo degi karin.

 

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List of Cities Ethiopian Airline has stopped flights to:

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Tallaabo said:

I don't think this has anything to do with China but has everything to do with a nation's capacity to control its airspace. 

If for instance Somaliland had an air force with the capability to intercept any aircraft, it could effectively close its airspace to international airlines and force ICAO to recognise it as a separate entity. If a capable air force cannot be found then at least Somaliland should develop the technical capability to jam all communications and GPS signals used by the airliners to turn its airspace into a black hole. This tactic can also force all airlines to take a long detour around Somaliland and thus have the same effect with ICAO.

So until Somaliland gets such capabilities which I doubt it will ever have, Mr Muuse and Co should explore other options. 

Just belligerent behavior will not be rewarded. It will actually make a pariah state and make Villa Somalia look more reasonable.

[Old_Observer]

Why are both sides pushing this and making it the Alamo (do or die) as Americans say?

Farmaajo side: He knows the control system he has is only a copy. Can be shut down any minute and control is done from Kenya. The equipment is still there and from time to time it functions.

Do not expect the International avaiation to work without fall back. What do you think would happen if Al Shabab or war lord blew up the place or took control of it.

Don't try to make it look like a face book power control. This is real life. Its the same for every group. Let alone Somaliland, a war lord can get the control in Farmaajo residence shut down and full time operate from Kenya.

 

On the other hand in these times of Coronavirus people should sit down and work something. It does not matter how much area one controls even a village can bring the tent down.

 

[Old_Observer]

Here is where Moodabe proved to be smartest.

After the Malaysian airline disaster in Ukraine, there is a new system. If any party declares an area a war zone, then evrybody looses.

What Moddabe did was positioned some anti-aircrft weapons, took pictures and told Farmaajo and Co. he will declare the area a war zone.

Everybody even Kenya itself came begging him not to do that. The face book posts from Farmaajo had to be deleted.

Countries like Qatar are using Oman, Somalia...more than ever. Nobody wants any problems here. Farmaajo and Co. knows their limits and capabilities, regardless face book postings. Their table top radio control can be shut down in a Moodabe minute.

Why is Ghelleh so quiet. He should insist that Farmaajo and Bixi can compete on anything else, but never on economic development beneficial to people. Farmaajo should not interfere in economic and developmental issues with Somaliland or any region for that matter. Every SFG understood this and it was formalized as agreement during M. Shiek time.

Oodweyne,

Taiwan has America. Taiwan is one of the biggest investors in China (mainland), Taiwan has Japan, South Korea, British to encourage them to just limit China's speed.

Ethiopian, Saudi, UAE (since difficult for you to get Qatar), Kenya, Egypt..airlines are your best hope to change the situation.

 

But now everything is on hold for Corona virus. Use this time to prepare for the after Corona virus time re-start if there is one and we don't have WW3.

 

 

 

 

[Old_Observer]

15 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

I think the simple thing was a mistake made by our previous government when we had agreed back in 2013 to transfer the Airspace control from ICAO to Somali hands, in which the intention behind it was that the idea that suggest Mogadishu and Hargeisa would come into some sort of understanding in-terms of how to govern the Somali air-space prior to the point of Somalia/Somaliland agreeing to a final settlement on their respective political destiny.

 

It was not a mistake. Was the right thing to do.

The fact that Farmaajo chose not to respect his predecessor's signature, an agreement that was best interests of all Somalis everywhere; Djibouti, Kililka and Puntland were all happy and hopeful, does not make it wrong.

Never regret something that failed to materialize, because of changes not in your control.

I am certain Ghelleh will insist that Farmaajo respect the agreement, that was beneficial to all Somalis.

As for you, deal with the problem as is now, but do not go back and give up on something that is always the right thing to do.

I am sure if Somaliland had supported ICU, would have squeezed TFG, but you did not do it, since it was not right and the long term negative effect on Somalis other than Somaliland and Djibouti, would have been catastrophic.

 

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On 23rd of March...  

 

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