Pope Seen Criticizing Islam

[bilan]

Pope Seen Criticizing Islam

 

IslamOnline.net & News Agencies

 

Using the words, "Jihad" and "Holy War," the pontiff quoted criticism of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) by Christian emperor Manuel II. (Reuters)

 

EGENSBURG, Germany — In what some immediately saw as a serious diversion from the rapprochement approach of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday, September 12, said the Islamic concepts of "Jihad" was unreasonable and against God's nature.

 

Using the words, "Jihad" and "Holy War" in lecture at the University of Regensburg, the pontiff quoted criticism of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) by a 14th Century Byzantine Christian emperor, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP).

 

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached," Benedict quoted Manuel II.

 

Quoting the Byzantine Christian emperor, Benedict said spreading the faith through violence is unreasonable and that acting without reason was against God's nature.

 

"Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul," added the pontiff in his own words.

 

British Karen Armstrong, a famed prolific writer on all three monotheistic religions, has criticized stereotyping the Arabic word "jihad" as merely meaning holy war.

 

She stressed that "jihad is a cherished spiritual value that, for most Muslims, has no connection with violence."

 

At a giant open-air mass earlier Tuesday, Pope Benedict urged more than 250,000 pilgrims to stand up for their beliefs in the face of the "hatred and fanaticism" tarnishing religion.

 

"Such an atmosphere made it important to state clearly the God in whom we believe," the pope said.

 

Strongest criticism

 

"This is maybe the strongest criticism because he doesn’t speak of fundamentalist Islam but of Islam generally," said Guolo.

 

Pope's criticism of Islam made his address the most political of his six-day visit to Germany, which had previously dealt exclusively with spiritual matters, commented AFP.

 

"This is maybe the strongest criticism because he doesn’t speak of fundamentalist Islam but of Islam generally," Renzo Guolo, a professor of the sociology of religion at the University of Padua, told The New York Times on Wednesday, September 13.

 

"Not all Islam, thank God, is fundamentalist."

 

Marco Politi, the Vatican expert for the Italian daily La Repubblica, said the pontiff's speech revealed "deep mistrust regarding the aggressive side of Islam."

 

"Certainly he closes the door to an idea which was very dear to John Paul II — the idea that Christians, Jews and Muslims have the same God and have to pray together to the same God," he asserted.

 

Daniel A. Madigan, rector of the Institute for the Study of Religions and Cultures at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, agreed.

 

"If we are really going into a serious dialogue with Muslims we need to take faith seriously."

 

But papal spokesman Father Federico Lombardi sought to ease the severity of the Pope's rebukes of Islam.

 

He argued that the pontiff used Manuel's views of Islam only to help explain the issue and not to condemn all of the Muslim religion as violent.

 

"This is just an example. We know that inside Islam there are many different positions, violent and non-violent," he said.

 

"The Pope does not want to give an interpretation of Islam that is violent."

 

Unlike late pope John Paul, Cardinal Ratzinger, who took the name of Benedict after his election, does not approve of joint prayers with Muslims.

 

He is also skeptical of the value of inter-religious dialogue.

 

In the summer of 2005, Pope Benedict devoted an annual weekend of study with former graduate students to Islam.

 

During the meeting, and since, he has reportedly expressed skepticism about Islam’s openness to change given the conviction that the Noble Quran is the unchangeable word of God.

 

In 2004, Pope Benedict also caused a stir by opposing Turkey's accession into the European Union.

 

He said Turkey should seek its future in an association of Islamic nations, not with the EU, which has Christian roots.

[Tahliil]

Oh No!Listen to the Pope...He is ANGRY as hell!!! Get him a country to invade

[Wisdom_Seeker]

How about somalia

 

Then WE will see how long he will remain angry

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Unlike late pope John Paul, Cardinal Ratzinger, who took the name of Benedict after his election, does not approve of joint prayers with Muslims.

Nin xaarkiis iyo kaadidiis iska dhaqin ninkii la tukado asagaaba ka gardaran.

[-Lily-]

Funny how everybody feels threatend. How can you take a man who wears silk and dimonds seriosuly?

[RedSea]

What is it that makes him more important then any other servants of Satan,other than offcourse of being the biggest, he can say what he wants, it makes no difference of what he and even Hitler would say, they have something in common in being children of Satan.

[Socod_badne]

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea:

they have something in common in being

children of Satan.

Satan is a real being that sires children? How do the children of satan look like? Horns, tail and walk around with pitch-fork?

[Castro]

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached," Benedict quoted Manuel II.

If Hirsi, Rushdie or Manji had said what the pope said, there would be renewed fatwas for their heads right about now.

 

Can you say boycott the Vatican?

[Jacpher]

Nin xaarkiis iyo kaadidiis iska dhaqin ninkii la tukado asagaaba ka gardaran.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by Castro:

quote:"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached," Benedict quoted Manuel II.

If Hirsi, Rushdie or Manji had said what the pope said, there would be renewed fatwas for their heads right about now.

 

Can you say boycott the Vatican?

Hersi Magan,Rushdie,Salman & Manji,Irshat have all something in common?

 

Jeaopardy tune:Daandaan..daandaan dan dan...drrrrrrrn drrrn! dingding!

[Naden]

Is it just me or does the new Pope resemble someone who's been dead for a little while. My sister and I were watching his inauguration (is that what it's called?) a few years back and were totally spooked. The other dude looked okay but this one reminds me of characters in The Exorcist or Constantine.

 

 

 

 

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[RendezVous]

Originally posted by bilan:

Pope Seen Criticizing Islam

 

IslamOnline.net & News Agencies

 

"This is maybe the strongest criticism because he doesn’t speak of fundamentalist Islam but of Islam generally," Renzo Guolo, a professor of the sociology of religion at the University of Padua, told The New York Times on Wednesday, September 13.

 

"Not all Islam, thank God, is fundamentalist."

 

In 2004, Pope Benedict also caused a stir by opposing Turkey's accession into the European Union.

 

He said Turkey should seek its future in an association of Islamic nations, not with the EU, which has Christian roots.

Why should the pope quote from a christian of the 13th Century and claim it's not his words..Does that mean, he is partisan to stem the current trend that the world is being Islamized by attacking Islam directly now..

By the way, there is nothing like Islam and Fundamentalist...Islam is Islam...we need no division in Islam

[RendezVous]

Hamid Ansari, chairman of the Indian National Commission for Minorities, said: "The language used by the pope sounds like that of his 12th-century counterpart who ordered the Crusades."

"This is the second time such an offence has been give before Ramadan," he said, referring to last year's publication of cartoons in a Danish newspaper that led to violent protests by Muslims around the world

Sheikh Hamza Mansour, who heads the Shura Council of the Islamic Action Front, Jordan's largest opposition party, said only a personal apology could rectify the "deep insult made by the provocative comments" to over one billion Muslims.

In Egypt, Muhammad Mahdi Akif, the leader of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, called for an apology.

 

"The remarks do not express correct understanding of Islam and are merely wrong and distorted beliefs being repeated in the West," Akif said in a statement.

[Source]

heh Naden, He always reminded me of Golem, ( the character in Lord of the Rings ). The one obsessed with the ring, to be more clear.

[RedSea]

Originally posted by Naden:

 

 

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

SB, this is what they look like, take a look at them with their hat which has the resemblence of hell of fire. :rolleyes: