Che -Guevara Posted March 7, 2020 for congratulating Ethiopians on the ‘77 battle of Karamarda b/w Russia/Cuba-backed Ethiopia & Somalia. WSLF fighters from the Somali region also fought Derg in the battle but PM Ahmed didn’t mention their sacrifice, some argue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 7, 2020 It is more clear every day this guy needs to stop or will plunge the region into chaos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 7, 2020 WSLF is the most "criminal" in the current Ethiopia or Somalia and even Somaliland or South. 1. WSLF told late Barre for the war to be conducted as liberation movement and not as invasion. He rejected, demoted some and alienated some. When the war fell apart the leadership in Somalia hated WSLF. 2. In 1984 WSLF did a conference where they declared the minimum arrangement for the Somali people to stay in Ethiopia is federal system. All anti-Federalists hate WSLF. 3. WSLF was the link to all Ethiopian resistance movements except Eritrea and to some Somali movements. Example SSDF and TPLF. WSLF had contacts with Sidama, some Oromo organizations, with the Afar and even with a small organization in Amhara region that later formed with EPRDF. 4. Somaliland of course cannot be openly friends with WSLF since the Mengistu regime would deal with them as he did with SSDF for contacting with WSLF and through them with the likes of TPLF. When people come to their senses and when all those who support fake unitary system in Ethiopia and Somalia are soundly defeated..people will evaluate and history will be more kind to WSLF than everyone else including those who splintered from WSLF and formed ONLF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 8, 2020 He needs to be stopped even if it comes to war or the former victims will be revictimized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted March 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Che -Guevara said: It is more clear every day this guy needs to stop or will plunge the region into chaos. We have to use Abiy Axmed. Soomaaliya is not currently that strong. We will use him as long as it benefits us. Remember, he could have continued the destructive Sanaawi policies of iskudirida Soomaalida and periodically humiliating Soomaalis by inviting them to that infamous yellow chair in Adisababa. So far, Abiy Axmed has not openly interferred and intervened in siyaasadda Soomaaliya against dowladda dhexe. He had not invited madax ku sheeg maamul goboleed without dowladda dhexe permission. Sanadkii 1991 ayaa fursad na dhaaftay markuu Sanaawi qabsaday; he too was initially openly supportive a unity government of Soomaaliya until 1996. We hope we do not repeat that lost opportunity again. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 8, 2020 Che, You are aware that Abiy main and primary supporters are from Derg, Ginbot 7, Amxara unitarists..etc. Every single one of his closest advisors are Derg, Eritrea, Unitarists who are enemies to each other, but who feel threatened by the federalist axis of from Somali to Tigray all the east side. It took years and years of work, to bring Kililka in one Front/Party. There could be factions, but at least they work from one party/Front and at very least they will respect autonomy. What was the first thing Abiy and Co. did? Get rid of this minimum common program of the Somali. They have now managed to return the situation to what it was in the 90s where you have 4-5 Somali organizations being used by this or that Ethiopian organizations. A Somali should do all his competition, even fights at home in Kililka and never use Ethiopian government to settle scores. Unless this is achieved 100 years of fighting and sacrifice will not be able to maintain the limited autonomy that was achieved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted March 8, 2020 I seems the translation is from google. It is odd way. I do believe that Abiy is a preacher compensating something to show how patriotic Ethiopian he is. Yet, the big difference between Abiy and the Evil TPLF is that the later always claimed to love Somalis. The TPLF welcomed us in Addis to cash in our money and business while stabbing us in Somalia and dividing our people. Actions speak louder than cheap talk. So far, his actions toward Somalia has been less interference. At the moment he is cooperating with our government and distancing himself from regional governments who used to go the Hajj to Addis. On the so called monument in Kaaramardha, as some people mentioned, he should build the Mengistu and Menelik monuments first in Ambo and Jima in Oromia country . 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 9, 2020 MMA, Who is using who? What is the price you pay to use Abiy and the Ethiopian stick? What was the price Farmaajo paid for what Ethiopia did for him in SWS? Why Farmaajo never speaks, mentions Turkey? Have you ever heard him brag about soldiers trained? Projects that succeeded and or failed? Never. Why? Let me tell you one fact that many here do not realize. Anything Ethiopia does in Somalia or any Somalis anywhere is either completely or mainly based on the Somali Kililka. Every Somali president except Farmaajo has always had connection or contacts in Kililka. Let alone SFG which is really in name only, even the great Ghelleh speaks with Somali elders before he does anything with Ethiopia or Somalia. Abiy is trying either by deception, by pressure or coercion to kill Kililka. That is his promise to Amxara. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 14, 2020 The thing that annoys me to no end is that people who prefess to unite all Somalis under one tent are first ones to make that tent smaller in Somalia itself, forget the other regions of Somalis. If Abiy is killing Somalinimo in Kililka, he cannot be raising the Somali ambition in Somalia. You cannot put all Somalis in one tent if they have been broken as Somalis and made as different people. Of all the regions Somalis inhabit, Kililka has the highest reflection of all Somalis on earth. Kililka shares people/clan/subclan with every region in the HoA. Now it includes European/American/Asian countries as well. There is a Kililka Somali, wherever there are a 100 or more Somalis. If Ethiopia does anything in any of the regions where Somalis are majority or absolute, without any content or participation of Kililka, it should be cause for concern. Best example was SWS and Abiy had to hold few meetings and promise never to repeat again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted September 23, 2020 WSLF was an inactive insurgency in 1991. I have CIA links that prove WSLF was insignificant in 1986. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites