Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners

[Fabregas]

http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece

[Johnny B]

A personal prejudices i'd say , he neither produced a scientific theory nor did he produce any facts except his claim that the tests showing so.

 

What tests and under what categories of intelligence remain to be a knowledge he soley claims to have, and lest he shares a reproduceable tests for evaluation and validation, he can party with "Mjölkmannen", a retarded skinhead i know of.

 

but if he can do that, what could we say?!

[umu zakaria]

To some extent it is true. We black pple r fools especially Somalis.

 

See what we did to our heritage, language, religion, dignity n future. we destroyed ourselves n still got the ambition to do more of it.

 

Tell me whats our worth? what do u plan to leave ur kids with when u die? whats our legecy? tribolism? hatred? enjoy being a begger? what do the future generations/ ur kids or ur kids kids know abt their homeland? will they ever get the chance 2 rebuild it? be honest u know waa un anagiiye.

 

Whites r intellectually manipulative n smarter. we invent nothing. we r only good critics.

 

all in all I DO LOVE US.

[Fabregas]

Originally posted by umu zakaria:

To some extent it is true. We black pple r fools especially Somalis.

 

See what we did to our heritage, language, religion, dignity n future. we destroyed ourselves n still got the ambition to do more of it.

 

Tell me whats our worth? what do u plan to leave ur kids with when u die? whats our legecy? tribolism? hatred? enjoy being a begger? what do the future generations/ ur kids or ur kids kids know abt their homeland? will they ever get the chance 2 rebuild it? be honest u know waa un anagiiye.

 

Whites r intellectually manipulative n smarter. we invent nothing. we r only good critics.

 

all in all I DO LOVE US.

There is no scientific formula or test to prove who is a fool and what not. The above things you listed eg religon and whatnot are describing political situations. If harsh political realities were an indicator of low intelligence then you just have to look at wars European have had. Their wars claimed more lives and brough more disaster then Europe ever could. Secondly the theory that Europeans are genetically more smarter is anti historical. We just have too look at previous civilizations that China, Egypt and the Moors built when Europe was living in relative barbarity and backwardness.

[chubacka]

I cnt believe this man, to say such a thing, (conincidently when his book has jst been published ) is a depressing attempt to grab attention.

 

How can you say one race is superior to another? PPl are jst ppl who are born into their circumstances and jst get on wid it.

 

A nations history and their political situation is no way to determine their brain size.

 

Its sad that such an eminent prof. has to stoop this low for a publicity stunt.

 

Imagine his black colleagues?

[roobleh]

Dr. Watson is the same guy who has used the DNA x-ray that Dr. Rosalin Franklin made before his claim of DNA's structure. Dr. Franklin did not even had her share of the Nobel price that surely belonged to her. Since then, he has created nothing else but garbage talk.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

This is what Darwinism leads to. That bogus theory of evolution will inevitably lead you to to this.

 

When a theory suggests humans developed from a molecule then a fish then a monkey or whatever between them, soon it was bound to happen in an atheist's mind that in humans themselves there is a several stages of intellectual differences.

 

Hitler bought and believed that crap of his Aryan nation being the top of the pyramid when it comes intelligence and humans.

[Johnny B]

What has Darwin get to do with any person's self-righteousness?

There (were) are Muslims,Xians, Indians etc etc who believe in a just God yet own(ed) human-beeings,as slaves.

Not only did they consider themselves more intelligent/more valueable than those God forsaken oftenly black people but their Gods never forbade or denied them the right to own them and do whatever they may desired with them.

 

It's thanks to Science we have overcome dogmas of all types , including this type of pseudo-science.

[Abu-Salman]

True indeed, Ms Franklin death prevented her from gaining that Nobel prize, since the prize is not awarded posthumously, as she developed the crucial X-ray (Watson work was mainly a chemical guesswork, needing to be confirmed, as he tried to predict with another Nobel-winner collegue the structure of DNA through its chemical properties).

 

At any rate, there is nothing "scientific" about intelligence since there is no a fixed, objective yardstick and, hence, nobody agree on its definition to begin with (for instance, Howard Gardner talk of several types of intelligences and thought about extending his list as for some there is even a "musical intelligence" ect).

 

At any rate, this ***** is a reminder that, through some fortunate circumstances and a bit of perseverance, anybody could gain a Nobel (even Al Gore the politician did it, which suggests that the prize itself is not that "scientific")...

[Johnny B]

^The prize Al Gore got is not a scientific one , it is a political one, read about Alfred Nobel and

The different Nobel prizes

[Socod_badne]

Prejudiced people will use any paradigm of the day to support their warped views. Before Darwinism became a bedrock of Biological Sciences, in American Christians were bitterly divided between monogenists and polygenists. Using the Bible, in particular the part pertaining to the curse Ham, polygenists argued that slavery was divinely ordained.

[Abu-Salman]

The prize Al Gore got is not a scientific one , it is a political one, read about Alfred Nobel and The different Nobel prizes

 

Obviously, there are different prizes, though my remark was aimed at the attribution criteria of the Prize (subjective, with heavy Western Bias, hence "unscientific").

However, politicians like Al Gore are hardly paragons of sincerity, let alone our "hope" in saving the planet from irresponsibility/climate change, which fundamentally require a thorough review of the very political foundations that allow them to thrive (Are not incriminated firms among their most loyal sponsors?).

 

Hence, As for slavery, Islam never allowed a Muslim to be enslaved, unless one was already born slave.

In fact, slaves were prisonners of war and encouraged to convert while treated humanely (the Qur'aan insist on prisoners welfare as did the Prophet SCW).

Not only did slaves performed a crucial role in Islam, like Bilal RA, honored by the prophet SCW, but some even became scholars.

Eventually, liberated slaves were fully integrated into the mainstream society, as this is shown by Gulf Arabs features for example.

 

Also, many regulations ensure that slavery, as an enduring tradition, well established in many societies, was progressively dealt with (in Fiqh or jurisprudenceas, as a compensation for missing some obligations, for instance) and Muslims were strongly encouraged to free them.

 

Historically, the Turkish Mameluk slaves finally revolted and became rulers of the Islamic World (the military in the later period was heavily reliant on slaves) .

 

At any rate, choosing slaves from a particular race was another Western innovation.

 

In fact, slavery was initially synonym with South Eastern Europeans Slavics which were the bulk of captured Pagans.

 

Now, enslaving a whole race/continent in most inhumane way, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, through genocide and unprecedented atrocities (separating children and mothers, killing, amputating and branding them with fire, shipping them in a most cruel fashion with high mortality rates ect), solely for satisfying futile cravings for sugar, before rejecting it as a "Muslim tradition" is somehow similar to the industrial Jewish genocide "expiated" by unsuspecting Palestinians (when the formers occupied prominent positions and thrived in the Khalifa) and another epitome Western hypocrisy...