Undercover Mosques - The Return

[Ibtisam]

Did anyone see the follow up of C4 previous documentary from last year where a journalist went undercover into certain Mosques in the country in order to expose extremist practices and preachers.

 

I cannot believe Regent park mosque got caught out again! Even worse, I just read the live blog. What the hell it sounds like a joke. Can anyone update me please.

[Ibtisam]

A year-and-a-half after the critically-acclaimed film Undercover Mosque was first screened, Dispatches goes undercover again to see whether extremist beliefs continue to be promoted in certain key British Muslim institutions. The film also investigates the role of the Saudi Arabian religious establishment in spreading a hard-line, fundamentalist Islamic ideology in the UK - the very ideology the Government claims to be tackling.

 

A female reporter attends prayer meetings at an important British mosque which claims to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. She secretly films shocking sermons given to the women-only congregation in which female preachers recite extremist and intolerant beliefs. As hundreds of women and some children come to pray, a preacher calls for adulterers, homosexuals, women who act like men and Muslim converts to other faiths to be killed, saying: "Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam."

 

Worshippers are repeatedly told they must lead separate lives from non-believers and not tolerate other religions. Christian teachings are described as "vile and disgusting, an abomination." And at private, invite-only prayer meetings linked to the mosque, the reporter films the leading preacher from the women's prayer circle issuing strict dictats on women's personal freedoms - decreeing they must not travel far without a male member of the family to escort them, and instructing them not to integrate with British society or work in a non-Islamic environment.

 

In the same mosque, the reporter visits the bookshop and discovers books and DVDs still on sale, promoting extremist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic and intolerant messages. Unbelievers ('kuffaars') are described in one DVD as: "Evil, wicked, mischievous people - you can see the evil in their face". Whilst Jews, "have abominated, filthy, disgusting gross belief - their time will come like every other evil person's time will come." Moderate Muslims and Islamic academics tell Dispatches they reject and condemn these teachings. Dispatches traces the links between the teachings and materials at the mosque and the Saudi Arabian religious establishment, and examines the extent to which Saudi Arabia exports such teachings around the world through the funding of literature, schools, mosques and other organisations.

 

Dispatches also interviews a former teacher at a Saudi-run faith school who describes how the official Saudi educational curriculum was taught in the school. He shows Dispatches official Saudi textbooks from the school which featured anti-Semitic and anti-Christian teachings.

 

As part of the investigation, the undercover reporter also films inside a key Saudi-funded Muslim organisation which claims to promote tolerance and integration yet distributes literature which promotes intolerance for non-Muslims, an extreme version of Sharia law and teachings which support discrimination against women.

 

The Government claims Saudi Arabia is its partner in tackling extremism, but a former Foreign Office Minister tells Dispatches he believes the Government should take a stronger line. The film also features interviews with Islamic academics who condemn these messages of intolerance and segregation and warn of the impact this version of Islam is having on British society. One imam at a leading university accuses the Saudi religious establishment of the: "distortion of Islam itself, the abuse and misuse of this great faith of mine and not only mine but of my children as well."

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My asian friends are going mad about Saudi influence on Islam. What is going on :eek:

[-Lily-]

“Evil, wicked, mischievous people - you can see the evil in their face".

 

LooooL this made me laugh so hard. I barely watch TV so nope, didn’t see it. You just have to accept most of Islam will seem extreme to this society we live in.

[Aaliyyah]

I think we live in the west so we do have to respect their laws. Of course if we are living in a muslim country we should without a question implement the shari'a.

[Mr. Gello - The proud Soma]

I couldn’t agree more. I was playing once and the fire alarm rang. Due to the obsessive nature of Health and Safety and political correctness now a day, the mosque leaders disturbed people in their prayers, insisting that they should get out of their prayers.

[Khayr]

female reporter attends prayer meetings at an important British mosque which claims to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. She secretly films shocking sermons given to the women-only congregation in which female preachers recite extremist and intolerant beliefs. As hundreds of women and some children come to pray, a preacher calls for adulterers, homosexuals, women who act like men and Muslim converts to other faiths to be killed, saying: "Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam."

 

Worshippers are repeatedly told they must lead separate lives from non-believers and not tolerate other religions. Christian teachings are described as "vile and disgusting, an abomination." And at private, invite-only prayer meetings linked to the mosque, the reporter films the leading preacher from the women's prayer circle issuing strict dictats on women's personal freedoms - decreeing they must not travel far without a male member of the family to escort them, and instructing them not to integrate with British society or work in a non-Islamic environment.

To the nonmuslim sensibility this is crazzzzzy

 

to the muslim senisbility, this is correct!

 

Muslims are different and you can't control their beliefs or thoughts.

 

Brit reports are a bunch of wankers!

[Malika]

Ibti, was the undercover reporter Sara Shah or was she just doing the narration..I thought I recognised the voice.

 

I almost spew my afuur, what a load of nonsense that was,I couldn't believe channel 4 aired such crap!

[Ibtisam]

Originally posted by Mr. Gello - The proud Somali Man:

I couldn’t agree more. I was playing once and the fire alarm rang. Due to the obsessive nature of Health and Safety and political correctness now a day, the mosque leaders disturbed people in their prayers, insisting that they should get out of their prayers.

Well Gello, you was playing anyway, was you annoyed on the behalf for the ones who were praying??

 

MAlika Who is Sarah Shah?? I'm not surprised C4 showed it, but what surprises me is the Asian community who are Muslim who have since monday been cursing the Saudi and Wahabist. Yesterday I felt like shouting "would you chill, if it was not for those damn Arabs you would be worshipping 99 Gods and still Hindus" Damn the Arab influence but what would ISlam be without the Arabs in the UK? :eek: We’d just have the Al Muhajurun (it was an Asian thing hijacked by the Arab) and Mr. Choudary and the Hizbu Tarir. Asian people have done their fair share of damaging the Islamic image with their force marriages, killing girls and god knows what else. I’m seeing them trying to claim the high moral ground and blaming others. So tired of hearing: “We must distances ourselves against those views expressed and expose it as a Saudi ideology”. Like the Average joe cares if you moderate or extreme!

 

I agree with Khary and Lily, Islam (and religion in general) will always be strange and appear extreme to this society. There is no point trying to prove YOU are different.

[sheherazade]

I watched the first one and it was farcical. Stayed well clear of this one.

[Malika]

Ibti, growing up with Asians and spending a few years working with them, one has learned they are very ambitious in promoting themselves[masters of the art of kissing ***]could this bashing the Saudi's be for their interest? Hmmm!

 

The UK Muslim population has really transformed to when the majority was of those from the Asian sub continent.I believe its time the Asian community stop thinking they are the only Muslims in UK and present all Islamic Communities in regard to what is the correct ideology and what not.

 

Indeed we are of one Ummah but when members of that Ummah slundering and bickering about each weakens the whole Ummah.

[Blessed]

^Well put!

 

Excuse me, hardcore maxay dhaheen; King Fahad Academy is an extremist institution? LOL. If that's the case then I'm a class A terrorist. JOKERS!

 

 

Anyway, for those interested...

[SayidSomal]

i watched - i thought - 'Islam came as stranger and would return as stranger'

 

the rest was wakh wakh iyo waali necaayb qabta

[unknown1]

the people in uk are so scared but not scared in iraq. just after 10 years you'll see how the shahada flag will fly in the heart of the uk.

[Ibtisam]

You can see it online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMc1F6GNuQ&feature=related

[N.O.R.F]

Watching it now.