Saalax Posted October 27, 2010 The 4km Government can't even control the land it currently has and it wants extra land does anybody see the strangeness in this? Yemen Post Staff Wednesday, October 27, 2010 newsinsidSomalia has claimed that the islands of Yemeni Socotra Archipelago are part of it, requesting the United Nations to determine the status of the archipelago, executive director of the Saba Center for Strategic Studies said. The unstable horn of Africa country with a transitional government receiving unlimited support from Yemen said it has the right to administer the archipelago, which lies about 340 km from the Yemeni coast, because it is located within its territory and borders, Ahmed Abdul Karim Saif made clear. 'The Somali claim is an unprecedented and dangerous indicator at a time when local activists and organizations are demanding to give Socotra a suitable status according to its geopolitical and strategic location, boost all services on it and take all necessary measures to keep other countries away from thinking of any part of Yemen.' In response, Yemen submitted a request to the UN saying the archipelago is Yemeni and history and its influence on it prove its claim, he said. Yemen's response came late and helped prevent a dispute over the archipelago, said Saif, as he ruled out that Socotra is currently a matter of dispute between the two countries. The remarks were given at a seminar on Socotra, at which the participants voiced concerns about the situation of the archipelago amid poor basic services and infrastructure. They said the current situation in Socotra could lead to unacceptable security, military and economic consequences that may hamper preparing the investment climate on it and its development as Yemen is seeking to better use its potentials. Moreover, they urged the government to address all issues affecting the interest of the Socotra people and their traditions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ismahaan Posted October 27, 2010 cajiib maxaa ku jabana , Somali has the right to fight for its territories. Socotra is Somali island and must be returned to Somalia, period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 27, 2010 ^^^ How so when the inhabitants of those islands are mostly yemenis? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted October 27, 2010 No one is going listen to Somalia. They are the bottom of the bottom currently. Somalis are not united, so which group or clan is making that claim is the question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 27, 2010 Soomaaliya oo markii ugu horreysay sheegatay lahaanshaha Jasiiradda Socotra oo ay maamusho dowladda Yemen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted October 27, 2010 Originally posted by AfricaOwn: No one is going listen to Somalia. They are the bottom of the bottom currently. Somalis are not united, so which group or clan is making that claim is the question? who else other than reer Qardhood? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 27, 2010 AfricaOwn. Puntland properly since it's the nearest to those islands. Or it could be possible in the future a powerful Somaliland state takes over those islands like Eritrea did with some previous yeman controlled Islands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted October 27, 2010 I wonder why Siad Barre never attempted to take that little piece of rock. He had a strong army of united Somali men and women. One squadron of Migs from Hargeisa and a navy backed battalion from Kismayu could have easily secured this place. Yemen was in little pieces because of their civil war, wax ma sameenikareen back then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 27, 2010 ^^^ The former government actually signed off those islands to yeman the sameway they signed Somali Region off to Ethipia in exchange of Ethiopia to stop aiding the SNM in 1988-1989. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted October 27, 2010 Where is the literature that would corroborate the above claims? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 27, 2010 Despite efforts to isolate the rebels, the SNM continued military operations in northern Somalia. Between July and September 1987, the SNM initiated approximately thirty attacks, including one on the northern capital, Hargeysa; none of these, however, weakened the government's control of northern Somalia. A more dramatic event occurred when a SNM unit kidnapped a Médecins Sans Frontières medical aid team of ten Frenchmen and one Djiboutian to draw the world's attention to Mogadishu's policy of impressing men from refugee camps into the SNA. After ten days, the SNM released the hostages unconditionally. Siad Barre responded to these activities by instituting harsh security measures throughout northern Somalia. The government also evicted suspected pro-SNM nomad communities from the Somali- Ethiopian border region. These measures failed to contain the SNM. By February 1988, the rebels had captured three villages around Togochale, a refugee camp near the northwestern Somali- Ethiopian border. Following the rebel successes of 1987-88, Somali-Ethiopian relations began to improve. On March 19, 1988, Siad Barre and Ethiopian president Mengistu Haile Mariam met in Djibouti to discuss ways of reducing tension between the two countries. Although little was accomplished, the two agreed to hold further talks. At the end of March 1988, the Ethiopian minister of foreign affairs, Berhanu Bayih, arrived in Mogadishu for discussions with a group of Somali officials, headed by General Ahmad Mahamuud Faarah. On April 4, 1988, the two presidents signed a joint communiqué in which they agreed to restore diplomatic relations, exchange prisoners of war, start a mutual withdrawal of troops from the border area, and end subversive activities and hostile propaganda against each other. Faced with a cutoff of Ethiopian military assistance, the SNM had to prove its ability to operate as an independent organization. Therefore, in late May 1988 SNM units moved out of their Ethiopian base camps and launched a major offensive in northern Somalia. The rebels temporarily occupied the provincial capitals of Burao and Hargeysa. These early successes bolstered the SNM's popular support, as thousands of disaffected SNM family members and SNA deserters joined the rebel ranks. Over the next few years, the SNM took control of almost all of northwestern Somalia and extended its area of operations about fifty kilometers east of Erigavo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polanyi Posted October 28, 2010 Originally posted by Libaahe*: Despite efforts to isolate the rebels, the SNM continued military operations in northern Somalia. Between July and September 1987, the SNM initiated approximately thirty attacks, including one on the northern capital, Hargeysa; none of these, however, weakened the government's control of northern Somalia. A more dramatic event occurred when a SNM unit kidnapped a Médecins Sans Frontières medical aid team of ten Frenchmen and one Djiboutian to draw the world's attention to Mogadishu's policy of impressing men from refugee camps into the SNA. After ten days, the SNM released the hostages unconditionally. Siad Barre responded to these activities by instituting harsh security measures throughout northern Somalia. The government also evicted suspected pro-SNM nomad communities from the Somali- Ethiopian border region. These measures failed to contain the SNM. By February 1988, the rebels had captured three villages around Togochale, a refugee camp near the northwestern Somali- Ethiopian border. Following the rebel successes of 1987-88, Somali-Ethiopian relations began to improve. On March 19, 1988, Siad Barre and Ethiopian president Mengistu Haile Mariam met in Djibouti to discuss ways of reducing tension between the two countries. Although little was accomplished, the two agreed to hold further talks. At the end of March 1988, the Ethiopian minister of foreign affairs, Berhanu Bayih, arrived in Mogadishu for discussions with a group of Somali officials, headed by General Ahmad Mahamuud Faarah. On April 4, 1988, the two presidents signed a joint communiqué in which they agreed to restore diplomatic relations, exchange prisoners of war, start a mutual withdrawal of troops from the border area, and end subversive activities and hostile propaganda against each other. Faced with a cutoff of Ethiopian military assistance, the SNM had to prove its ability to operate as an independent organization. Therefore, in late May 1988 SNM units moved out of their Ethiopian base camps and launched a major offensive in northern Somalia. The rebels temporarily occupied the provincial capitals of Burao and Hargeysa. These early successes bolstered the SNM's popular support, as thousands of disaffected SNM family members and SNA deserters joined the rebel ranks. Over the next few years, the SNM took control of almost all of northwestern Somalia and extended its area of operations about fifty kilometers east of Erigavo. He was talking about Socotra. The article only talks about the deal in the Ocaden. Socotra was never signed off by any SOmali leader. Truth be told, it belongs to yemen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted October 28, 2010 about time!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 28, 2010 Polanyi. I know i was just showing him 1 part. As for the Socotra Island issue i was reading some book about it a while back apparently the british gave it away somewhere in the 1950's. And it was after the union of south yeman & north yeman that many yemenis started moving to the Socotra Islands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites