Love doesn't exist or does it?

[Janna]

Originally posted by Khalaf:

ALexus thanks for asking does love exist…instead of is a “farah†capable of love…

It has already been established Somali men are terrible fathers who are unable to love.

[Animal Farm]

Love is something that must be created through time and experience. Immediate love is purely physical, emotional love takes time and connecting more intimately.

 

Love is an experience, love is an experienced tragedy, love is a controlled experiment, someone always holds most of the cards, and the other is a lab rat, love is violence, love is a lot of things, one thing I know is that it does exist – it is an happy accident that can handicap you.

 

However, for us Somalis, our love is something we purely imagine, as what it should be, because we don’t have an archetype of real love, we grew up in an anti-love society, where women were treated as second-class citizens. Our only concept of love is a fragmented image manufactured through the various medias we engage in daily. My conclusion, love is an accident it can kill you or it can give you a second chance in life again.

[Khalaf]

Originally posted by ALexus It has already been established Somali men are terrible fathers who are unable to love.

Then I guess your father is terrible man....who is unable to love....that is absurd and u know it.

 

I take my thank u back....all of you on this site are Arewello undercover. why do u women have so much hatered towards us...or is this a front? :confused:

[Mr.Faarax]

It does. But I dont like when people use the term " fall in love"...why fall? why cant u be inlove. maybe that is why people get others to walk all over them! cuz they fell on flat on the ground.

[Janna]

Originally posted by Khalaf:

quote:Originally posted by ALexus It has already been established Somali men are terrible fathers who are unable to love.

Then I guess your father is terrible man....who is unable to love....that is absurd and u know it.

 

I take my thank u back....all of you on this site are Arewello undercover. why do u women have so much hatered towards us...or is this a front? :confused:

Khalaf,

Actually my father is not a "terrible man". I have witnessed many Somali fathers lacking emotional feelings towards their children. I have also heard the treatment of children in Somalia by their fathers. So no need to act like your father gave you "love".

We women are not hating. I socalise with Somali mothers, all complaining about their husbands. They always give me advice in regards to Somali men, it's wonderful.

[Guhaad]

Go Alexus, its your birthday.

 

Alexus, i am as confused with love as anyone can be. I think it has more to do with our nationality and religion. what does love mean, where does it start and end, does it have limit/boundaries? can seeing alone get you into love, are the touches and the kisses between two lovers a sufficient indicator of love or a prove of. that is why i went with the quranic definition of love.

 

i still laugh when i hear some people died of and for it hrazy-mrazy

[Khalaf]

Originally posted by ALexus:

Khalaf,Actually my father is not a "terrible man". I have witnessed many Somali fathers lacking emotional feelings towards their children. I have also heard the treatment of children in Somalia by their fathers. So no need to act like your father gave you "love".

We women are not hating. I socalise with Somali mothers, all complaining about their husbands. They always give me advice in regards to Somali men, it's wonderful.

Baayo the women u mention that complain about their husbands to you are going against Islam first: since in our deen a wife should not tell her husbands secrets and protect their privacy…and not share it with other women over tea. Second if problems exist…then there is something called shura…consultation that should happen between them…if they have problems then they should talk to their husbands...that is the way of Al-Islam. Third…I don’t know what advice they give u….but wont be accurate or fair….we are all different….not every Somali man is like the husband of the women who gives u advice. Last…sister u nothing of my father….or what goes on in my family…so don’t judge…it is unIslamic. My father gave us not only love and support…he provided for his family.

[Janna]

Originally posted by Khalaf:

quote:Originally posted by ALexus:

Khalaf,Actually my father is not a "terrible man". I have witnessed many Somali fathers lacking emotional feelings towards their children. I have also heard the treatment of children in Somalia by their fathers. So no need to act like your father gave you "love".

We women are not hating. I socalise with Somali mothers, all complaining about their husbands. They always give me advice in regards to Somali men, it's wonderful.

Baayo the women u mention that complain about their husbands to you are going against Islam first: since in our deen a wife should not tell her husbands secrets and protect their privacy…and not share it with other women over tea. Second if problems exist…then there is something called shura…consultation that should happen between them…if they have problems then they should talk to their husbands...that is the way of Al-Islam. Third…I don’t know what advice they give u….but wont be accurate or fair….we are all different….not every Somali man is like the husband of the women who gives u advice. Last…sister u nothing of my father….or what goes on in my family…so don’t judge…it is unIslamic. My father gave us not only love and support…he provided for his family.

Before you shred any tears, Khalaf. Let's end this discuss after I say a few words. Those women are not shaming their husbands but are concerned of their families well begin and cannot address their concerns due to whatever reasons. They are not mentioning their husband’s deep dark secrets. I judged your father because you said my father was a terrible man. Giving me advice warns me of their most unfortunate experiences.

 

The topic was discussion is love and it's existence

[-Lily-]

Of ourse you can love to the depths and breaths of your soul, and transcend earthly things if you are lucky and if it was meant to be. Love is very real and even the sceptics hope for it deep down if they are honest with themselves. Having said that there is more of love than LOVE.

 

Alexus, don't let those women paint you a false picture of men, or at least men of their genration.

[facklexm]

We all want to fall in love. Why?

Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,

where every sense is heightened,

and every emotion is magnified.

Our everyday reality is shattered

and we are flung into the heavens.

It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,

but that doesn't diminish its value,

because we are left with memories

that we treasure for the rest of our lives.

[Ibtisam]

These women need to get a life. If they are so unhappy they need to change the conditions that make them unhappy, instead of complaining and gossiping about it. DO something to solve and better there situation. The reason their man is acting like a JackAss is because they gave them that lead way to do as he pleases without having to account for his actions to her. It has nothing to do with Love, love does not make you Shitpuid.

 

People will treat you according to how you view and represent yourself. All current Somali women do is have numerous children, get overweight and out of shape and then complain that there husband left them, kick them out for a week, then get back with them, then get pregnant, kick them out again, take them back “for the sake for the children" eeerg, make up your mind!!

[Castro]

Originally posted by ibtisam:

People will treat you according to how you view and represent yourself. All current Somali women do is have numerous children, get overweight and out of shape and then complain that there husband left them, kick them out for a week, then get back with them, then get pregnant, kick them out again, take them back “for the sake for the children" eeerg, make up your mind!!

Walee habar fadhida maxaa lagdin uga fudud.

[Ibtisam]

^^^in english PLZ

[Castro]

Walee habar fadhida maxaa lagdin uga fudud.

Verily there's nothing easier to a (woman) couch potato than wrestling.

 

I believe in this case habar can be used for either a male or a female.

[Ibtisam]

Explain yourself, Please. I am a pit slow today and I am trying not to jump to conclusions.