Che -Guevara Posted January 3, 2020 Not confirmed yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 3, 2020 Confirmed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted January 3, 2020 This is huge. Since regime change in Iran is impossible , the chaos theory is in action. THey tried few times but finally succeeded. Do you have a link of the story? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 3, 2020 Qasem Soleimani: US kills Iran Quds Force leader, Pentagon confirms Top Iranian general killed by US in Iraq WWW.BBC.COM Qasem Soleimani, the head of Iran's elite Quds Force, was a hugely significant figure in the region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadafi Posted January 3, 2020 This is a big escalation. Qasem Soleimani was a indeed the "hidden" foregin minister that the supreme leader could lean upon. I doubt the iranians will be able to do a military response. They are bidding their time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 3, 2020 Iran should retaliate and attack us position's in the golf. This is a US declaration of war against Iran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhaqaale Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: Iran should retaliate and attack us position's in the golf. This is a US declaration of war against Iran Fools rush in. Typical Somali reasoning without brain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 3, 2020 The US has been provoking Iran first the US drones inside Iranian airspace and now their biggest general head of all. Foreign operations killed. This deserves a response. But I think nothing much will happen at least not for now. Its a setback for Iran in Iraq. But they will regroup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhaqaale Posted January 3, 2020 Mute point. Soleimani (among others) is responsible for turning Iraq into Mogadishu 1991. Not to mention the force behind propping up Assad in Syria. Killing of innocent people, slavery and human trafficking is his crime and thus killed for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thoroughbred Posted January 3, 2020 good news for the Sunni nations . These rafidis (iran,houtis and similar groups) and the khawarij (alshabab,daesh and similar groups) are two sides of the same coin . meelkasta ay joogaan dhibaato ba ka jirta . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted January 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Dhaqaale said: Not to mention the force behind propping up Assad in Syria. Killing of innocent people, slavery and human trafficking is his crime and thus killed for it. Good point. Rather than fight within Iran they taken the war to the neighboring Arab nations. When the Iranians welcomed the demise of Mubarak and on the other hand fought to the death to save the butcher Asad, we all understood these Ayatollahs do not care about despots as long as they are Shia. 8 hours ago, thoroughbred said: These rafidis (iran,houthis and similar groups) and the khawarij (alshabab,daesh and similar groups) are two sides of the same coin The Americans keep shooting themselves in the foot. No one knows whose interest they are serving. They helped Iran and Iraq created a private Shia militia to fight in the name of the state and armed them well. Now you have tens of thousands of Iran backed militia within Iraq ready to be deployed by Iran. Furthermore, for the last few months Iraqi people had risen up and wanted to take back their country from the political and business oligarchs connected to Iran. Money and resources are looted and deposited to foreign banks, and the rest of the resource goes to those connected with Iran. Now , this American actions might bring the pro-Iran militia and the Muqtada Sadr group to team up and to expel all Americans forces from Iraq. Maybe Trump secretly wanted leave Iraq for good. One thing We learned from America for the last twenty years is they always making Iran bigger and bigger in the region. The multi billion dollar American Patriot missiles in Saudi Arabia could not even shoot down a third rate drone from the Houthis. The fat gulf Arabs are scared to death. No one wants war, but if few missiles land in the fraud capital of the world, Dubai , I would not shed any tears. Finally they might learn the agony of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 4, 2020 I have seen Somalis celebrating this man's demise. He is no angel but how could anyone only blame him is beyond me, Iran was contained until the Yanks decided to set ME ablaze, In the recent history, Iranians have never started a war but they had to get involved wars to protect their interest. This is no justification for what this man did but one has to appreciate the past in order to understand the present and shape a better future. In order to understand the Iranians, you gotta examine: 1. 1953 Coup 2. The Shah Dictatorship imposed by the West 3, The horrendous 1980-1988 with Iraq supported by the West, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 4, 2020 Why would somalis celebrate alshabaab affiliated groups maybe. But the Iranian Islamic Republic is the only country in the middleast that stands against us imperialism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted January 5, 2020 I don't think Iran has any real military option here. Few mysterious bombings here and there and that will be it. The country is so divided between Islamists and Liberals that the authorities are not willing to risk it all. The Islamists have control and the liberals are waiting for the weakening of the Islamists. The Iranian regime is going to be very careful not to lose control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted January 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, Dahireeto said: The Iranian regime is going to be very careful not to lose control. America could weaken the Ayatollah rule and inflict huge damage to Iran. The best options for Iran is probably destroy American bases in the gulf. THe losers will be UAE and the Saudis. Turkish writer Ibrahim Karagul calls Suleimani a war criminal who is hell bent on advancing sectrain campaign to weaken the region for imperial forces. He was a symbol of Iran/Persia’s imperial power. He stood at the intersection of the neural networks spread throughout the region within Iran’s deep structure. He was the mastermind behind the Revolutionary Guards Corps, Hezbollah, Hashd al-Shabi and other organizations and structures. He was directly linked to religious leader Ali Khamenei, and was in charge of all covert operations, unofficial wars and interventions from Afghanistan to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. He was a man that left blood and grief in his wake at every place he went, stopped by or passed through. He was triggering an Islamic civil war, ruthlessly implementing every type of terrorism He was the front man to implement sectarian “Islamic civil war” plans, Persian-Arab wars. Even though he said it was resistance in the name of Iran, he was a man who used every format of “terrorism” and was made a legend by the Shiite world. He was killed yesterday at Baghdad Airport by the U.S. Hezbollah and Hash al-Shabi leaders were also killed along with him. The order to attack was given directly by U.S. President Donald Trump. Prior to the attack, Trump had targeted Iran and said, “This is not a warning but a threat.” US-Iran, Arab-Iran conflict in Iraq may take critical form Tensions that have been escalating for some time now in Iraq were leading into another stage in the Syria and Iraq wars with the killing of Iran’s most important man. Qassem Soleimani had assigned his own man to command the Green zone in Baghdad, who opened the doors of the Green zone to Hashd al-Shabi militias, and they invaded the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. Those who have been holding demonstrations for weeks in Iraq welcomed the attack. It is now clear that the Iran-based U.S.-Iran, Arab-Iran conflict will lead to much critical results. There is great fury and grief for Iran and its affiliated groups. While Hezbollah declared that war is now everywhere, cries for revenge are rising in Tehran and its surroundings. Does US killing him absolve him? Can that photo he posed for in Aleppo be forgotten? He was a hero according to the Shiite world, yet according to the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world, he was a war criminal murderer. The U.S. having killed Soleimani, his elimination by the U.S. and Israel, which have turned our region into a bloodbath, will not absolve him This is not possible for hundreds of millions of Muslims. He was behind incredible human rights violations and war crimes in Syria. He was involved in mass slaughters. The Aleppo massacres in particular are impossible to forget. Back then he had posed for a photograph in Aleppo. He seemed like a victorious commander. But in fact, he was walking over the corpses of the oppressed people of Aleppo. He was fighting against Turkey in Syria That day, I had written, “Qassem Soleimani is a war criminal. He should be held responsible for war crimes.” Soleimani and his murderous teams were openly fighting against Turkey through Syria, with Persian imperialism burning down the whole region. Meanwhile, Soleimani was directly fighting Muslims – not the U.S. – and using all his might against them in all the countries and regions under his influence, without out any limits or room for anything sacred in his attacks. Iran needs US-Israel’s invasions Soleimani’s attitude was emblematic of Iran’s official, ideological attitude. Iran is a state that appears to be fighting the U.S. and Israel but hides behind their invasions in our region and has control over the ground. Those invasions are the reason why Iranian influence has become so widespread, not the U.S. Had it not been for those invasions, Iran would not have been as strong as it is today in Syria and Yemen. Therefore, Iran is in great need of U.S. invasions and Israel’s animosity. Therefore, the U.S. and Israel’s opposition are a veil for it. It is completely sectarian and adjusted to take revenge from Sunni countries. Mohammed bin Zayed, Mohammed bin Salman, Qassem Soleimani: Leading names of Arab-Persian war Soleimani also appeared to be fighting against the U.S. and Israel when in fact he was fighting against Muslims. He was completely sectarian-motivated. He was dreaming of attacking Saudi Arabia from Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. His main goals were Mecca and Medina. This is how the Muslim civil war plotted by the U.S. and Israel was being staged. One side of the war was Iran while the other was Saudi Arabia; both countries has claimed this role. UAE Crown Prince Mohammad bin Zayed and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman were leading the Saudi front of this civil war while Soleimani was leading the Iran/Shiite front. Forcing God to doomsday. US, Israel, Iran’s far-right standing in same position The Muslim war, which appears to be set up as a Shiite-Sunni war, a sectarian war, was in fact planned as an Arab-Persian war. All the wars that erupted in our region since the 1991 Gulf War were planned as Arab-Persian wars and have always taken place on Arab territory. The new situation we have been discussing with Soleimani’s killing is that it will take this war beyond the borders of countries and regionalize it. The idea of U.S. neocons and Israeli far-right schedule the Armageddon war to an earlier date by “forcing God to doomsday,” was being turned into a judgment day war among Muslims. A dirty, bloody scenario was being prepared, and we are still yet to realize this today. Soleimani was one of this idea’s champions on the ground. How will Iran retaliate? What is going to happen next? Will there be a U.S.-Iran war? Will there be an Israel-Iran war? How will Iran respond to this assassination and where? Iran will never fight against the U.S. and Israel. The crisis will not go beyond reciprocal threats. Tehran did not respond even when the U.S. and Israel were hitting Iranian targets in Syria and Iraq. Could Trump’s statement yesterday, “Iran never won a war, but it never lost a negotiation” be indicating that the negotiation period is now over? My probabilities are as follows: There will be great ambiguity in Iraq. Not Iraq but its deputies will respond. They will hit Saudi Arabia not US 1. The retaliation for Soleimani’s killing will be in Iraq. The U.S. and Iran are going to escalate the war for influence in Iraq. This is actually going to take place between Iran and Saudi Arabia. 2. The Iran-Saudi power struggle that has been ongoing for weeks in Iraq is going to grow even bigger. There is great ambiguity in store for Iraq. 3. Iran will not fight directly. It will respond through indirect means, through proxy war. It might hit Saudi Arabia, Gulf countries such as the UAE via indirect means, through organizations. A ‘Houthi missile’ might fall over a Saudi crude oil facility, Dubai 4. A “Houthi missile” might fall over Saudi crude oil facilities, the U.S. military presence in the country, or over Dubai. Iran will use this clout everywhere from Afghanistan to Lebanon. 5. The war and showdown will go beyond the borders of Iraq and intensify in the Gulf. This means Iran-Saudi clashes. It means the threat in the Persian Gulf is growing. Turkey must act fast in Libya 6. What is happening in the Gulf as Turkey has turned towards Libya following the motion? Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt, the anti-Turkey actors of the Libya war, will be turning their attention towards Iran and the Gulf. This is a nightmare for Khalifa Haftar. Turkey must act fast. 7. 2020 got off on an extremely rocky foot. While it was expected in Libya, the Persian Gulf exploded instead. This means everything will be happen extremely quick. Of course, everything will happen very quickly and Iran will retaliate. A new Persian-Arab war will not be confined to a single country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites