Thierry. Posted October 14, 2010 Me and a Somali colleague at work are debating over who is the greatest Military leader? His choice - Frederick II of Prussia Mine – Genghis (Temujin) Khan The Determinants: • Size of land conquered • Time frame of reign • Speed of conquest • Size of Forces Some factors that could cost points: • The strength of the opponents • Environment • Logistics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted October 14, 2010 u sure it isn't a chewing session? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thierry. Posted October 14, 2010 ^^lol, dee i had sometime this morning (wasted 1 hour debating back and forth). So who is your choice Sheh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted October 14, 2010 what about the future? - I, sure like to be contender then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 14, 2010 Out of the two above, I would say the Mongol Warlord wins hands down. However in terms of Military genius, Napoleon and Hannibal Barca are the greatest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted October 14, 2010 I am ignorant of such matters and wish to remain so. Men are blood-thristy creatures, they hide behind strategy when all they want is to disembowel someone LoL. Ha idiin macaanaato. Toodles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted October 14, 2010 what about: Khalid ibn al-Walid Suleiman the Magnificent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 14, 2010 ^^ Not according to the rules set by TH above. Some guys called Alexander was not called 'great' for nothing. He wins this hands down if we follow your criteria. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 14, 2010 ^^^They were great. What about Mustafa Kamal Attaturk, who defeated the armies of Greece, Armenia, Italy, Britian and France to keep Turkey independent? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thierry. Posted October 14, 2010 Come on gents I need more info, defend your choice, Napoleon a man I greatly admire not only for Military success but his personal achievement from the small island of Corsica to rule most of Continental Europe, however he still got defeated at the battle of Waterloo. Hannibal the genius that invented the outflanking manoeuvre, however his reign did not last long and he defeated the Romans when they where weak and divided. Even Genghis Khan’s forces only really faced serious resistance from Mamluk and they got defeated there. Khalid bin Al-Walid, now that’s a Military leader, who defeated two titans with a asmall army. One thing is common in most military success, it is the speed of manoeuvre and ability to make your foe fight in your terms that brings success not the size of the force. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 14, 2010 Shankly conquered Europe. Can we have some historical maps and time frames gents? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thierry. Posted October 14, 2010 ^^ Saxiib his empire is going into administration Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted October 14, 2010 Alexander the "great," maybe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 14, 2010 ^^^lol: What about the new modern Military doctrines ? I would add a new name to the list. Gen Vo Nguyen Giap the man who humbled a super power in the Vietnam war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalina Posted October 14, 2010 What about Hammurabi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites