Fabregas Posted February 26, 2007 Quote:Prove it, i believe Non-Somalis can. This is why Somalis start talking in Somali to other East Africans. As i have done on several occasions.Clearly this is an absurd case and stems from us Somalis, living in our own little world.......... "]http://usinfo.state.gov/af/img/assets/4475/kagami-us-ap150.jpg[/img] What would they say if the "Bantu" Rwanda president walked through a Muqdisho cafe? Adeer iska waran shah ma donaysa? Does anyone here know anything about the Waboni people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted February 26, 2007 Captain R.E Salkeld -1905 The Waboni are the hunters of Jubaland; they live in no settled habitations but follow game. They are capable of extrodinary feats of endurance. From a Governments point of view they are the only Elephant killers and if they could be communicated with and their confidence gained they would form the best scouts in the country. They are however very shy, and much afraid of their Somali masters They have three divisions (a}Bon Dhurey (b} Bon Aleyli (c} Bon Boran In Kenya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebyan Posted February 26, 2007 What would they say if the "Bantu" Rwanda president walked through a Muqdisho cafe? Adeer iska waran shah ma donaysa? The Tutsis aren't of Bantu origin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted February 26, 2007 Originally posted by Violet: quote: What would they say if the "Bantu" Rwanda president walked through a Muqdisho cafe? Adeer iska waran shah ma donaysa? The Tutsis aren't of Bantu origin. it's a language category not a Lineage The Hutu, Tutsi, and Twa all speak a Central Bantu language. It is called Kinyarwanda in Rwanda, and Kirundi in Burundi. Both are dialects of the same language. Like other Bantu languages, both use nouns with prefixes. For example, the word Banyamulenge ("Ba-nya-mulenge") can be divided into parts. The prefix "banya" means "people"; "Mulenge" is the name of a region. The whole word means "people of Mulenge." http://www.everyculture.com/wc/Brazil-to-Congo-Republic-of/Tutsi.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebyan Posted February 26, 2007 I know that "Bantu" is a language grouping, but the people can be "Bantu" as well. Bantu is a general term for over 400 different ethnic groups in Africa, from Cameroon to South Africa, united by a common language family (the Bantu languages) and in many cases common customs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu The Tutsi President looks "Cushitic" because the Tutsis are believed to originally be from Southern Ethiopia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted February 26, 2007 Violet what's a cushitic look? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion Posted February 26, 2007 Quote:Prove it, i believe Non-Somalis can. This is why Somalis start talking in Somali to other East Africans. As i have done on several occasions.Clearly this is an absurd case and stems from us Somalis, living in our own little world.......... Because Cushitic people are so close to each other when it comes to lineage, it is obvious that some people can be mistaken for one or the other, but these are very much the exception. Normal Rwandese don't resemble Somalis like their President seems to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebyan Posted February 26, 2007 Originally posted by David_Letterman: Violet what's a cushitic look? The Beja,Afar,Somali,Oromo etc. look A LOT alike. They look different from non-Cushitics like the Habasha(who are 'Semitic') and the Kikuyu( who are 'Bantu'). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebyan Posted February 26, 2007 Originally posted by Centurion: Normal Rwandese don't resemble Somalis like their President seems to. There's no such thing as a "Normal Rwandese". There are different tribes in Rwanda( the most notable being the Tutsi and the Hutu) and the President is from the Tutsi tribe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion Posted February 26, 2007 Let me rephrase that, the average non-Somali Rwandese. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 26, 2007 Originally posted by Violet: They look different from non-Cushitics like the Habasha(who are 'Semitic') The Habesha are non-Cushitic? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebyan Posted February 27, 2007 Originally posted by Taliban: quote:Originally posted by Violet: They look different from non-Cushitics like the Habasha(who are 'Semitic') The Habesha are non-Cushitic? :confused: Ahh..I guess you don't know everthing afterall. The Habasha are Semitic..google it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 27, 2007 Originally posted by Violet: The Habasha are Semitic..google it. The term Habesha refers to Ethiopians and Eritreans, and more specifically and historically to the Semitic-speaking peoples of Ethiopia and Eritrea. Within this more specific definition, it is usually used to refer to just the two politically dominant Semitic-speaking Amhara and Tigray-Tigrinya ethnic groups of Ethiopia and Eritrea who are predominantly Coptic Christians. The Amhara and Tigray ethnicities combined make up about 36% of Ethiopia's population (ca. 23 million Amhara, 4.5 million Tigray) while Tigrinyas make up about half of Eritrea's population (ca. 2.25 of 4.5 million). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habesha Your logic: Semitic-speaking = non-Cushitic Are the Amhara and Tigray non-Cushitic? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebyan Posted February 27, 2007 Since you love wiki so much..heres a link to the Cushitic page, do you see the Habasha listed? Cushitic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 27, 2007 Originally posted by Violet: Since you love wiki so much..heres a link to the Cushitic page, do you see the Habasha listed? Cushitic That's your exit strategy? This is what you claimed: Originally posted by Violet: The Beja,Afar,Somali,Oromo etc. look A LOT alike. They look different from non-Cushitics like the Habasha(who are 'Semitic') and the Kikuyu( who are 'Bantu'). Summary of what you claimed: The Beja, Afar, Somali, Oromo, etc are Cushitic and look a lot alike. The Habesha do not look like the Cushitic, therefore they are non-Cushitic, hence Semitic. Your above link is about Cushitic languages, not about Habesha being Semitic. A modicum of professionalism on your part is in order. Please don't waste our time with nonsenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites