Turkish are coming back to horn of Africa and will be running not walking

[Old_Observer]

Glad to see the Syria nightmare for Turkey is close to being finished, at least for some years.

Kurds will not re-start before another decade of soul searching.

Non Shiia Arabs would rather move to Europe, nothing worth fighting for them in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq....Its all hopeless.

Christians and others would prefer Turkish than their neighbor Arabs. After all they all lived there during the Ottoman empire reasonably OK.

Turkish are now moved into driver seat. Euro Asia is waiting for them and Horn of Africa is waiting for them. They want to teach a lesson to Arabs/Egypt, so hopefully Turkish will come running mode to Horn of Africa.

Sudan and Somalia were shaken, but haven't gone far from Turkish. Ethiopia is poor oversized and shakey not a big deal even if it goes far against Turkish. Will come back very fast.

 

Mugadishu get ready the Turkish are coming, but this time will focus geostrategically in Puntland.

 

[Che -Guevara]

Arabs are not strategic thinkers, not that we Somalis are any better.

P.s I am glad  Syria's conflict is coming to end. Imagine if the Russians and Iranians never came. It would have been another Libya.

[galbeedi]

These Arabs especially the Gulf and Egypt looks like nations without people with sentiments and reason. Here you have Turkey trying to keep the territorial integrity of an  Arab country,  Syria  and settle the Arabs who are the original resident of the Furaat river area.  Yet they were all condemning the Turkish move. Who are these people really?.

The time has come to get out of the useless Arab league. Eritrea joined first and then Asias said " the are useless" and got out quickly.

2 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

Turkish are now moved into driver seat. Euro Asia is waiting for them and Horn of Africa is waiting for them. They want to teach a lesson to Arabs/Egypt, so hopefully Turkish will come running mode to Horn of Africa.

 

 

The Turks are builders and those who build life sustaining things are remembered by the people. The Syrian thing has bogged down their efforts to reach the world.

[Old_Observer]

5 hours ago, galbeedi said:

These Arabs especially the Gulf and Egypt looks like nations without people with sentiments and reason. Here you have Turkey trying to keep the territorial integrity of an  Arab country,  Syria  and settle the Arabs who are the original resident of the Furaat river area.  Yet they were all condemning the Turkish move. Who are these people really?.

The time has come to get out of the useless Arab league. Eritrea joined first and then Asias said " the are useless" and got out quickly.

 

 

The Turks are builders and those who build life sustaining things are remembered by the people. The Syrian thing has bogged down their efforts to reach the world.

 

What I find disappointing is that Africans and Somalis in general have been jumping from one frying pan o another for no reason or rhyme.

Example some Somalis and the Amxara who had in their areas a lot of Turkish investments and plans and works, got shaken and jumped to the Arabs and America. The Sudanese on the other hand sent twice delegation to the Turkish to reassure them, whie UAE and Saudi were raining money on them to use the opportunity.

A lot of works in Somalia almost froze or some went backwards when the Turkish got busy at home.

We need to have some patience even in the face of financial or some temporary rewards from those fly by night operators and stick with some long term principles.

Because Tigray, Somali and Afar in Ethiopia prefer the Turkish, the Amxara and Abiy went the opposite.

 

The Turkish are perfect fit in:

Education

Technology/industry

Agriculture

Health

to the horn of Africa. Europeans are useless except to take raw material.

 

[Dhaqaale]

I will let you in on a secret. Somalia was destroyed from within on purpose. For what reason. Simple. Because they can and will make sure it never comes back. Why are there so many isaaqs in the UK? And the SNM was founded in London by agents of MI6.

The Turks are there for selfish reasons, but gullible Somalis think they are there to build a country for them. Laughable.

[Haatu]

On 10/24/2019 at 7:41 AM, Old_Observer said:

 

What I find disappointing is that Africans and Somalis in general have been jumping from one frying pan o another for no reason or rhyme.

Example some Somalis and the Amxara who had in their areas a lot of Turkish investments and plans and works, got shaken and jumped to the Arabs and America. The Sudanese on the other hand sent twice delegation to the Turkish to reassure them, whie UAE and Saudi were raining money on them to use the opportunity.

A lot of works in Somalia almost froze or some went backwards when the Turkish got busy at home.

We need to have some patience even in the face of financial or some temporary rewards from those fly by night operators and stick with some long term principles.

Because Tigray, Somali and Afar in Ethiopia prefer the Turkish, the Amxara and Abiy went the opposite.

 

The Turkish are perfect fit in:

Education

Technology/industry

Agriculture

Health

to the horn of Africa. Europeans are useless except to take raw material.

 

This post reeks of dependency. Why should Somalis be reliant on the largess of others? Are they not capable of supporting themselves? Despite what many people, poor countries can easily escape the poverty trap as long as they pursue the right economic policies. But good luck finding those policies, the IMF, World Bank, WTO, developed countries on general and others are hell-bent on keeping poor countries poor. Ha-Joon Chang, a Cambridge economics professor calls them Bad Samaritans and Friedrich List, the father of developmental economics, describes their actions as 'kicking away the ladder' after they've climbed the tree.

And aid is a scam. It's a roundabout way for countries to subsidise their economies without breaking WTO rules.

What is wrong with you people? Qabkii iyo hankii sare aaway? For educated bright people, fikraddiina aad bay u hoosaysaa. Never let your poor sitaution to lead you to beg/be dependent on others. There is always a way out if you are mentally self-sufficient. Laakiin hadduu nin kale maskaxda kaa haasta, you will forever be dependent.

[Dhaqaale]

1 hour ago, Haatu said:

This post reeks of dependency. Why should Somalis be reliant on the largess of others? Are they not capable of supporting themselves? Despite what many people, poor countries can easily escape the poverty trap as long as they pursue the right economic policies. But good luck finding those policies, the IMF, World Bank, WTO, developed countries on general and others are hell-bent on keeping poor countries poor. Ha-Joon Chang, a Cambridge economics professor calls them Bad Samaritans and Friedrich List, the father of developmental economics, describes their actions as 'kicking away the ladder' after they've climbed the tree.

And aid is a scam. It's a roundabout way for countries to subsidise their economies without breaking WTO rules.

What is wrong with you people? Qabkii iyo hankii sare aaway? For educated bright people, fikraddiina aad bay u hoosaysaa. Never let your poor sitaution to lead you to beg/be dependent on others. There is always a way out if you are mentally self-sufficient. Laakiin hadduu nin kale maskaxda kaa haasta, you will forever be dependent.

What you speak of was available to Somalis on 1st July 1960. But Somalis have throw away their blessing on qabil. A mistake that will lead to their extinction.

[Old_Observer]

8 hours ago, Haatu said:

This post reeks of dependency. Why should Somalis be reliant on the largess of others? Are they not capable of supporting themselves? Despite what many people, poor countries can easily escape the poverty trap as long as they pursue the right economic policies. But good luck finding those policies, the IMF, World Bank, WTO, developed countries on general and others are hell-bent on keeping poor countries poor. Ha-Joon Chang, a Cambridge economics professor calls them Bad Samaritans and Friedrich List, the father of developmental economics, describes their actions as 'kicking away the ladder' after they've climbed the tree.

And aid is a scam. It's a roundabout way for countries to subsidise their economies without breaking WTO rules.

What is wrong with you people? Qabkii iyo hankii sare aaway? For educated bright people, fikraddiina aad bay u hoosaysaa. Never let your poor sitaution to lead you to beg/be dependent on others. There is always a way out if you are mentally self-sufficient. Laakiin hadduu nin kale maskaxda kaa haasta, you will forever be dependent.

Its so nice to say what you said, but even yourself know that there is time and space for everything.

Its very rare countries are built on good wishes only.

If you cannot have your independence in economy, development, military, social..bases the next best thing is choose a better block to join.

The Turkish are doing it for themselves, but if what they want to do for themselves and what you want to do for yourself agrees and becomes the same, then what is your dependence?