Paragon Posted December 17, 2002 Brother OG_Moti - Thank you very much for such an intelligent response to Sister Taqwa. I don't think I need to answer to both majdi and Taqwa coz you gave them a fair answer. Thankx sxb - your analysis is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhooddimeer Posted December 19, 2002 Nimaan gedo yarayn baan ahoo gaaddaweyn jiray.... Odayaal gaboobaa marbay gaban ahaayeene guxushaaga aan kicini mar buu gaannanaan jiraye.. Don't be dismayed by my regrets of time. I am already getting too old at mid thirties without ever realising my childhood fantasies of leading the Horn into its former glories of Cammuun and Marabtah Bahtiri. Wallee ama gumooboo sidaa la iiga guulaysay wallee ama rag waa is gaadayaaye, gacan ku ciil beelay. Qaasim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted December 19, 2002 Originally posted by dhooddimeer: Nimaan gedo yarayn baan ahoo gaaddaweyn jiray.... Odayaal gaboobaa marbay gaban ahaayeene guxushaaga aan kicini mar buu gaannanaan jiraye.. Don't be dismayed by my regrets of time. I am already getting too old at mid thirties without ever realising my childhood fantasies of leading the Horn into its former glories of Cammuun and Marabtah Bahtiri. Wallee ama gumooboo sidaa la iiga guulaysay wallee ama rag waa is gaadayaaye, gacan ku ciil beelay. Qaasim. Hehehe..u r not even close to the age of this well known poet... 'Maxaad cuni ha joogtee adduun caashaqii dhigaye Sidan caddadka biluhu tirsaday waan cabsanayaye Qorrax casarka joogtaan ahoo ciiri dabadeede kuwaanu isku ciidamis ahayn caadna laga waaye Hadba waxan calool doonayaa curufadaydiiye' here is another one.. 'Nin labaatan buuxsaday aduun waa lagdamayaane Hadaan anigu loofaadin jirey haatan loowlabaye Nin ciradu lamaanaha dhigtoo oo laylyamaan ahaye Lixdan laba iyo toban baan dul maray waana la hubaaye Lafta dhabarka lixaadka i debciyo laafyihii gacanta Lubbigaygu leyl xalay ma ladin laadadyiyo taahe Waataa lanleemada indhaha araggu liitaaye Liiqliiqad baan ahay sidii lulo dabayleede' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QUANTUM LEAP Posted December 19, 2002 One thing that we have in abundance is how we use words to make ones point but when you havent grown in that environment, its very hard to decode the meaning of these wonderful words. So brothers Bash and Dhood would you please kindly elaborate for us the meanings of the above words so we can respond. Many thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted December 19, 2002 Shaqsii, I am not sure if I'm fluent enough to translate in a way that conveys the true meaning of the these poems...and even if I try I am sure it will not be as beautifull as the poet composed it in Somali...so I won't try its literal meaning! The gist of the poems I posted though is that: the author (Salaan C.) is expressing a deep sorrow that he is too old to do things he used to do and that he is yearning the presence for his friends in which he implied the age had cought up with them and they left to after-life. The second one he is implying when u hit at certain age u lose most capabilities... The moral of the poem is old folks lack the physical ability and even need help in doing simple basic things...but have the experience and wisdom to insist they know few things in life...and he concludes that he is going to pray Allah cuz that is what he should be doing more instead of advicing the young lad! Corrections are welcomed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QUANTUM LEAP Posted December 20, 2002 Bashi walalo thank you very much for explaining and interpreting the poems in the best possible manner. I did understant the gist of it all and it sure means alot too about how time stills away ones sharpness and functionalities. Remember Nomads try to use your time in the best possible manner so that there are no regrets at alater time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 4, 2003 The Disenfranchised Youth By Sadiq Aminu triplep41@hotmail.com The term "Democracy" in the modern day era has continuously been redefined time and again to fit certain myopic views depending on the author of the definition. Take for example our great nation ( Nigeria ) where you find different ethnic and religious groups clamouring for political relevance, with each group accusing the other for its woes without taking the necessary time to cross check and verify the claims with which it is accusing its brother. This phenomenon has been a recurring decimal in the history of this nation, but never has it been in such epidemic like proportions like in the modern day Nigeria . Speaking as one of the true youth of this nation (i.e. Under the age of 35), I sincerely believe that our present day leaders especially our elders have failed us utterly and completely. I say this with strong conviction even with the knowledge that I am indicting my own kith & kin in this condemnation, but I believe that in order to affect change in our nation Which sooner or later we the youth will have to inherit, drastic words backed up by action is required. As mentioned earlier I believe that the youth of Nigeria today are being short changed in this our own definition of Democracy, when you take for example our very own constitution which sets age limits for elective offices at such levels that alienates most youth from actively, and more importantly, effectively participating in determining the fate of the country in which they are the largest stakeholders, you usher in a version of dictatorship which rail roads fresh and impressionable minds to a predetermined mind set that will only produce clones with the tendencies of repeating the mistakes of the past. In order for true democracy to take hold, fresh ideas have to be propagated, new ways of governance most be adopted. Many countries have seen the need for this change a while ago, with countries like Britain jettisoning old war horses for fresher minds as was the case of the conservative party dropping john major and adopting a younger leader to re-position the ailing party to meet up with present day challenges, after suffering a defeat at the hands of the re- engineered Labour party who had already embraced this new way of thinking. Unfortunately, in Nigeria today what you see happening all around is youth being mobilized to further political ambitions for certain actors, which when attained they the youth are relegated to the back ground without reaping the benefits of their toils, for they are truly the deciding factor of winning or losing taking into consideration the age demographics of the country. The youth are often coerced with monetary inducements to fight their brother youth from different wards, local governments and states without understanding the dynamics behind the scenes. Most elders see the youth as a stepping stone to riches using unscrupulous ways to divide and subjugate them to a predetermined way of thinking so as not threaten their positions or wealth. This is made considerably easier when you take into account that the youth's view is that of having nothing to lose as none of their own can aspire for that position so why not make the best of what they have and enrich themselves with easy money. Agree or disagree with what I say, the crux of the matter is that youth today have virtually been denied all political aspiration, they do not even get the opportunity to serve as aides to learn the ropes because they are considered as the biggest threat to acquiring wealth and power by most of the political actors in our history till date, which is highly ironic as everybody knows a house is only as good as its foundation. The leaders should therefore note that delaying the inevitable will only bring more of what they fear when it finally arrives, and should give the youth of this nation a voice with which they can better their lot and that of the nation in the near future, they should be willing to sacrifice "their" immediate & mostly selfish gains to accommodate those who will hold the future of their own sons and daughters in their hands. Sadiq Aminu Kano. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 4, 2003 I thought I should share the above article with my fellow nomads since it relates to this topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkerman Posted May 5, 2003 Very interesting article Jamaal. I think there are some parallels here with our situation also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 12, 2005 ^^^ Thank you brother. I am still ....asking the same question...any more answers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haaraahur. Posted May 13, 2005 Dear J'maal11 We don't need old evil or new evil. What we Somalis need is authentic Islam. Not sects like qadariya and saints. So long as we don't let Islam unite us and heal our pains am afraid more heartaches are awaiting us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guleedyare Posted May 15, 2005 oh my fellow people, do we need the corrupt evil old? jawaabtu waxay noqonaysaa maya hadii aadan ahayn qudhiisii ama mid uu kaa xanuunsanayaa ka dhex hadlahayo. ka yar ee uu ka dhexhadlayo baaba igaga daran ka dada wayn waayo waa qof waxa lagu soo shubtay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted March 29, 2011 2002 to 2011, no change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted March 29, 2011 Since 2002 ,, the younger generation were getting old only to follow the old generation's fate ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al-Miskiin Posted March 29, 2011 Great and important topic bro Most young people today are simply not serious enough to see themselves as the generation that must take over. We are too busy with all sorts of unimportant things, the old generation, however, was so busy trying to create some kind of life, I do not agree with how they did things, but if u look at it they were dead serious . The things they did were not always the right thing, but they did really care for they're nation and people. Just watch the old people sit in various cafeterias, they do not discuss anything other than politics, and debate with each other about how to possibly change our country, or something else in the world. The young people today would rather discuss the new 50cent song or who Real Madrid bought last week,rather than things that really matters, and as soon as the conversation gets a bit serious and coming to politic they begin to yawn and say "naga daaya WAA fadhi ku dirir e" "odayaasha hadalkoodii weey" we would rather spend all our time on unnecessary jokes and watch movies for hours. We are a generation of selfish young people, that unfortunately can't think further than "damn she/he is hot " or "what should I eat now, etc". Another thing I've noticed that also is a big plus from the older generation is their eagerness to raise money for emergency-affected areas in Somalia, or buildings. I've often noticed in my community when it comes to raising money, whether it is to a mosque, or another kind of help it is always the elderly who are willing to pay. Young people simply dont take it seriously enough, and far from taking the Somali situation seriously, waxay ka taagan tahay "naga daaya soomaaliya dagaal iyo Balaayaa ka jirtee "and of course they are right, but it is not the right atittude to gain freedom, success , development, or freedom. So my point is we need to be more focused, we need young people who are Islamicly commited, who sees they're religion as a gift from God, and not as the west may say "middle-aged religion", we need young people with strong-will, they have to be serious and ready to meet a lot of resistance. And last but not least we need young people that are ready to sacrifice their lives for this cause(The cause of positive change), but as long as we are in the situation we are in today, than Allah Knows Best. That's my view Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites