Old_Observer Posted September 21, 2019 There is a new kid on the block. Its not government, but has full support of Puntland Government. Dini, Ethiopian Consul, local elders and politicians had meeting and no matter the past they all seem to be determined to make it work. Who are the investors? Djiboutians, Ethiopians (non-Somali), Ethiopians Somali, Puntland, Turkish, Qatari, Somalilanders...are the suspects. The Chinese are also suspected maybe from Singapore or other enclaves. If USA and Farmaajo go against will know soon. This will take off. Will be a lot of ex-Generals and security folks involved from all the enclaves. Will be pure business. Garacad Sea Port WWW.GARACADSEAPORT.COM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted September 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: Djiboutians, Ethiopians (non-Somali), Ethiopians Somali, Puntland, Turkish, Qatari, Somalilanders...are the suspects. The Chinese are also suspected maybe from Singapore or other enclaves. If USA and Farmaajo go against will know soon. I am those who believe that a port in every 200 km is a good for trade and business. Every Somali community in these regions have enough livestock to ship to outside world. Fishing ports and fish processing industry alone is more than enough for couple of hundred thousand people in those regions. Yet, you can't have three huge container ports in one region. It is going to be a tough competition. In my opinion, Boosaaso port could lose business if both Hobyo and Garacad are activated. I think a medium size port invested by the business community and Puntland could serve well ro support fishing and livestock export to the close region. Besides, all this talk of Hobyo and Garacad invested by foreign money is just a hope. Mudug having to ports is strange. Which even builds first will be the Mudug port. OO, How can you put Somaliland, Qatar, Turkey and Djibouti in the same basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted September 21, 2019 By the way, despite its loudly proclamation of diversification , 95% of Ethiopia's export and import is with Djibouti Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted September 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, galbeedi said: By the way, despite its loudly proclamation of diversification , 95% of Ethiopia's export and import is with Djibouti Absolutely. The pipeline to Eritrea propaganda is already forgotten. The pipeline to Djibouti will be completed and functioning soon. Eritrea and Abiy tried to make the road to Djibouti insecure, but the Ethiopian generals took care of the conspiracy right away. Ghelleh has become master of these africans who play childish but cruel games with their people. When Ethiopia had Assab for 40 years was the same. Ethiopia cannot survive without Djibouti. The Tigray did not only change governance of Ethiopia with federalism, but made Djibouti and Ethiopia impossible to divorce. Railroad, Airlines, Highway, Water, Electricity, dry ports, 3 functioning ports...you name it all chained together. Unless Ethiopia itself falls apart in pieces, the Djibouti Ethiopia rope is tied in knots. Businessmen in Ethiopia have said they prefer Berbera and Port Sudan for extra business, but not Eritrea that relies on one dictator who takes measures at a whim to anything. Ghelleh is dictator of different kind. A businessman as well. Example: Ghelleh never interfered even against businessmen from Ethiopia that he hates. They pay and cannot do much to him. Afwerki would arrest them, let alone to let them do business and use his port. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted September 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: Railroad, Airlines, Highway, Water, Electricity, Definitely this Ghelle guy is a player. What is going on with Assab port of Eritrea? Is the Tigray don't want to use? It is much closer for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, galbeedi said: OO, How can you put Somaliland, Qatar, Turkey and Djibouti in the same basket? No offense. Its just that sometimes, is easier to see things by enclaves. Even in Ethiopia is commonly done to see if regions have separate impact and influence on the issue. Kililka is most of the time considered as a country, especially in previous governments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted September 21, 2019 I mean how can they all invest Garacad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, galbeedi said: I mean how can they all invest Garacad? They all need each other. Some for money, some for security, some for locality.. BTW many Somalis think that every port in Somalia from Zeila to Kismayu is competion. It cannot be further from reality. Djibouti does not mind if up to 30% of Ethiopia's future business goes to other ports of Somalis. Many countries in Asea do not like Bab El Mendeb, so they would rather use eastern and north eastern ports of Somalia. That way everything is done in Indian ocean and Africa. Djibouti would only mind if it went to Eritrea. That is a big problem. Most Ethiopians prefer Djibouti since has matured state of affairs than the new Eritrea who started wrong foot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted September 22, 2019 Hobyo iyo garacad waxba isuma jiraan masaafo ahaan, puntland dhaqankeedu waa dukaan ag furo oo ka mida taajirada soomaalida ay dhaqan ahaan u leedahay Bosaaso waxaa ku taal deked qiimo badan ayadaa loo baahnaa inay xoogooda isugu geeyaan dayactirkeeda waa deked u dhaw gacanka carabta oo in lala tartamaa ay adag tahay. Farmaajo waxay ku diidanyihiin siday ila tahay tartanka uu ku furay dekedahooda si ay ugu ekeedaan dawlad daris la ah gobolada kale oo difaacata amnigeeda dhaqaale. Waa wadan dadkiisu aysan waxba isu ogolayn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biyo-cad Posted September 22, 2019 OO and Saalax have one thing in common, they are both con artists. OO hails from the same clan as that of Warlord Madoobe and Saalax claiming to be from the SNM clan is far from the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, gooni said: Hobyo iyo garacad waxba isuma jiraan masaafo ahaan, puntland dhaqankeedu waa dukaan ag furo oo ka mida taajirada soomaalida ay dhaqan ahaan u leedahay Yes, but one is private and the other is government. One is foreign and the other is local, regional owned. Mugadishu takes a cut from Hobyo, if it ever happns, but nobody takes a cut from Garcad, the owners will also be the executives and protectors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted September 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Old_Observer said: Yes, but one is private and the other is government. One is foreign and the other is local, regional owned. Mugadishu takes a cut from Hobyo, if it ever happns, but nobody takes a cut from Garcad, the owners will also be the executives and protectors. Mr.Old Dekedda khaaska loo leeyahay ama beeshu samaysato waxay ka barako badan tahay tan dawladdu dhisto soo ma'ahan hadalkaaga nuxurkiisu? Awoowe gacaliye laf cad yaad toobin ku haysaa. Dawlad waxay dhisto waa ka kuwaaliti fiicantahay tan beesha lagasoo ururiyo waa maal gelin ama deeq dhab ah oo ayatiin dheer leh. Hobyo beel u adeegi mayso waa ganacsi furan sida tan bosaso ugu adeegto dadkoo dhan canshuurta dawladdu heshana waa jiritaankii dawlad nimada. Faa'iidada ku jirtaana waa lawada leeyahay dhulkana waa lawada leeyahay sidoo kale. Galkacyo ganacsadaha jooga haduu kala doorto hobyo iyo bosaso iyo xataa garacad hadii maal gin fiican loo helo oo laga gudbo adna ka ag dhiso waa ķhayr soo kordhay. Puntland waa inay ka waantowdaa daciifinta dawladda dhexe hadii kale waxaa imaanaysa inay gudaheeda sii kala baxdo mar kale. (xerada waa la waynaystaa adoon xoolo badan lahayn daacadnimadu waa barako) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, gooni said: Mr.Old Dekedda khaaska loo leeyahay ama beeshu samaysato waxay ka barako badan tahay tan dawladdu dhisto soo ma'ahan hadalkaaga nuxurkiisu? Awoowe gacaliye laf cad yaad toobin ku haysaa. Dawlad waxay dhisto waa ka kuwaaliti fiicantahay tan beesha lagasoo ururiyo waa maal gelin ama deeq dhab ah oo ayatiin dheer leh. Hobyo beel u adeegi mayso waa ganacsi furan sida tan bosaso ugu adeegto dadkoo dhan canshuurta dawladdu heshana waa jiritaankii dawlad nimada. Faa'iidada ku jirtaana waa lawada leeyahay dhulkana waa lawada leeyahay sidoo kale. Galkacyo ganacsadaha jooga haduu kala doorto hobyo iyo bosaso iyo xataa garacad hadii maal gin fiican loo helo oo laga gudbo adna ka ag dhiso waa ķhayr soo kordhay. Puntland waa inay ka waantowdaa daciifinta dawladda dhexe hadii kale waxaa imaanaysa inay gudaheeda sii kala baxdo mar kale. (xerada waa la waynaystaa adoon xoolo badan lahayn daacadnimadu waa barako) Gooni niic-badane, niic-da yaree oo hurdada ka kac ninyahow oo iskaa wax uqabso ina-Adeer! Puntland hadii ay wax qabsato waa alxamdulilaah, hadii dawllada Federaaalka wax u qabato-na waa Rabil Caalamiin. Puntland, like Jay Z said, got a million ways to get it... choose one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted September 23, 2019 Tala mooge Ina adeer hadii fooxii la shido beeshu guriga la gasho waa dhibaato. SSC waxaa u geeyay inay ehel ka dhigtaan somali diid waa arintaas uu maamulka puntland caadaystay. Hobyo waa dekadda gal-mudug Bosaso waa dekadda puntland Barbera waa dekadda snm Kismayo waa dekedda jubaland Hir shabeele waa inay ka heshaa War-shiikh Koonfur galbeed waa inay ka heshaa baraawe Haduu dani booska farmaajo joogi lahaa ma garacad buu dhis lahaa mise hobyo aragtidaada? Haduu garacad dhiso cadaalad ma'ahan aragtidayda hadiise ay iskood isku abaabulaan waa karti beeleed wanaagsan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 8:21 AM, gooni said: Tala mooge Ina adeer hadii fooxii la shido beeshu guriga la gasho waa dhibaato. SSC waxaa u geeyay inay ehel ka dhigtaan somali diid waa arintaas uu maamulka puntland caadaystay. Hobyo waa dekadda gal-mudug Bosaso waa dekadda puntland Barbera waa dekadda snm Kismayo waa dekedda jubaland Hir shabeele waa inay ka heshaa War-shiikh Koonfur galbeed waa inay ka heshaa baraawe Haduu dani booska farmaajo joogi lahaa ma garacad buu dhis lahaa mise hobyo aragtidaada? Haduu garacad dhiso cadaalad ma'ahan aragtidayda hadiise ay iskood isku abaabulaan waa karti beeleed wanaagsan. Amuuraha Eebe waxaa kamid ah inuu nin sidii adhigii bacaac leh, uu mar walba is moodo hadal qiimo leh inuu ku hadlayo. Saaxiib, cadaalada aad adigu garsoorka ka tahay uma malaynayo Deni iyo Puntlandba iney dheg jalaq u siin doonaan ee bal orod oo Farmaajo ka hubso inuu Hobyo dekad u dhiso doono waayo odeygu beentiisa iyo runtiisa lama kala yaqaanee... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites