Somali Indicted in Ohio Mall Bombing Plot

[QUANTUM LEAP]

Are somalis getting beyong their depth here.....

[checkmate]

booooy i couldn't believe my eyes when i saw this in the news this morning ..maaaaan.. talk bout trapin a brother (maskiin) walahi i feel for him and his family (subxaanal laah)

i don't think ina million years ta come there will be a somali person that would do such a thing...no freakin way.....

 

this mornin they were sayin that the intent was ta blow (the somali mall) but now they have changed the wordings saying that intent was a mall..... (alaah yakhra baytak yaa kufaars) nacala talaah caleeyk

 

asxantu

[OG_Girl]

Oooh My God!..I swear to God this just other propoganda to harrass moslims every where. This guy is poor guy who have 2 lil kids , he aint ****** to do such a thing..!!

 

They teling bull$hit, they want people scare even going to Masjid.

 

I just can't believe this bull$hit!.. He is wallahi so nice person and never harm any one or have hate toward any one.... I have no clue who will be next ..maybe u and I will be next terrorist!

God help us.

 

Salam

[rudy-Diiriye]

u know this is bogus! its all elections bs!! free the homie! red necks!! they probably did this thing thinking that our nomads are week society & cant do nothing! yo, dont miss with nomads! u remember xamar word!!

 

please contact your community reps and lets mobilize to notify this morans that we come in peace!! and there no such shyte in the nomad country...! :confused:

 

well! i am a volunteer for the kerry camp so asta la vist bushie!!

[AYOUB]

What I find really strange is how Arab News chose to report that story as if they were speaking on behalf of the FBI. Here's what they chose to leave out of their 'report'.

 

 

CBS.COM

(CBS/AP) Federal investigators say Nuradin Abdi bragged that blowing up an Ohio shopping center was his goal.

 

But no specific mall was targeted. No explosives were in hand. And it is unclear that the alleged terrorist had the wherewithal to do it.

 

Abdi's family says he didn't have the will.

 

A four-count indictment, returned by a grand jury in Columbus, Ohio, charges that Abdi, a 32-year-old Somali native, conspired with admitted al Qaeda member Iyman Faris and others to detonate a bomb at the unidentified shopping mall after he obtained military-style training in Ethiopia.

 

"The American heartland was targeted for death and destruction by an al Qaeda cell which allegedly included a Somali immigrant who will now face justice," Attorney General John Ashcroft said.

 

But the portrait painted of Abdi by the government is in sharp contrast to the one offered by his family, who insist he is innocent and describe a man who hated terrorists.

 

Abdi, who operated a small cell phone business, loved his new freedoms and never spoke out against the U.S. government, said his brother Mohamed AbdiKarani, 17. Abdi has a son and daughter and his wife is pregnant.

 

"He loved it here. He never had as much freedom. He said it's good to raise his kids here," AbdiKarani said. "He really hated terrorists. You know how (President George) Bush hates terrorists? I think he hates them more."

 

Abdi is also charged with fraud and misuse of documents by claiming that he had been granted valid asylum status in the United States. In fact, prosecutors say, he obtained that refugee document under false pretenses.

 

If convicted on all charges, Abdi could be sentenced to up to 80 years in prison and fined $1 million.

 

According to U.S. immigration records, Abdi first entered the United States in 1995, lived for a time in Canada, and then returned to the United States in August 1997. Abdi was granted asylum in America as a refugee in January 1999 after giving false information to immigration officials, the government charges.

 

Later that year, he used that refugee status to apply for a travel document by falsely claiming he was planning to visit Germany and the Muslim holy city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

 

In fact, prosecutors say, Abdi used the document to travel to Ethiopia to obtain "military-style training in preparation for violent jihad." The training included guns, guerrilla warfare, bombs and radio usage.

 

Court papers allege that the plot dated to March 2000 when Abdi returned from the training camp in Ethiopia to join Faris in Columbus.

 

Last May, Faris pleaded guilty to plotting to topple New York's Brooklyn Bridge on orders from al Qaeda. He admitted to providing sleeping bags, cell phones and cash to terrorists, and was subsequently convicted of providing material support to terrorism and conspiracy to provide material support. He is now serving a 20-year sentence at a federal prison in Florence, Colo.

 

The indictment mentions "other co-conspirators" besides Faris, but Justice Department officials would not say how many allegedly were involved.

 

AbdiKarani said Abdi was friends with Faris because they attended the same mosque. Columbus is home to more than 30,000 Somalis, the second-largest Somali community in the United States, after Minneapolis.

 

Abdi, 32, was arrested at his apartment Nov. 28, the day after the Thanksgiving holiday when malls across America were crowded with shoppers. He was held at first on immigration violations, authorities said.

 

According to the Detroit Free Press, Abdi was ordered deported by a federal judge in March. He did not contest his deportation, meaning the U.S. had 90 days to carry out the move. That period ended last week.

 

Abdi, his feet and hands shackled, appeared distracted during a hearing Monday before a federal magistrate. He alternately twisted around in his chair and smiled at spectators and U.S. marshals, then stared at the table in front of him. He placed his forehead on the table as the magistrate read him his rights.

 

Abdi's mother, Nadifa Hassan, expressed concern about her son's health, saying he was withdrawn when she visited him in jail about a month ago. She said she heard her son likely would be deported.

 

"He's very sick," she said through a translator while surrounded by friends at Columbus' Somali Community Association. "When I saw him last time he wasn't talking at all. I feel pain inside, the way he looked like that."

 

"I know my son, that he's not a terrorist," she said.

 

Investigators say Abdi had no explosives materials and no detailed plan for the mall attack, CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart reports.

 

That would make it similar to several other post-Sept. 11 al Qaeda plots in the United States that appeared rushed and ill-prepared, like gang member Jose Padilla's alleged dirty bomb plan and Richard Reid's foiled attempt to set off a shoe bomb aboard a transatlantic flight.

 

The alleged Abdi plot also fits with one of the FBI's greatest terrorist fears: that an attack on a mall could cost many lives and cause enormous economic damage.

 

The FBI has warned al Qaeda might shift away from trying to hit tightly guarded installations, such as government buildings or nuclear plants, to more vulnerable targets such as malls, apartment buildings or hotels.

 

The Justice Department last month said they were worried about an imminent attack this summer and asked for help finding seven alleged terrorist operatives.

 

In May, a Tanzanian man who entered the United States illegally was charged with making a phony terror threat on a Los Angeles shopping mall, the FBI said.

 

Jamilla Hassan, 39, a cousin of Abdi's, said she hopes the charges are a mistake. Abdi was like any immigrant who escaped the clan-based war in Somalia, looking for a better life, Hassan said.

 

"He was another good American," she said.

[OG Moti]

this is typical, elections are close, and Bushy administration wants to win using the masaakiin immigrant whom are hard working to make a living, a Somali and a terrorist? Difficult to believe, Somalis don’t even understand the definition of terrorism … Anyway is this mean “do more freedom of speech? is this mean the DD – dictator – Democracy ? anyway nomads just be house naggers and shut ur mouths .. or lets go back to our country and kick those war lords assses .. peace

[OG_Girl]

What I find really strange is how Arab News chose to report that story as if they were speaking on behalf of the FBI. Here's what they chose to leave out of their 'report'.

 

Arabs!!!, Wallalo, u can't imagine how they humilate the poor old guy of mine , just cos they found Abdi's record he had contact with him throught the PHONE call....4 hours in Police station just cos FBI asked them to do that and they even refused to allow him to pray Maghrip time cos the guy who was questioning said " he is his work hours" and pray after he finishs his questioning!! and we r not even in America!!.

 

Stop crying for Arabs and as 508 said ..back home and kick warlords' butt and ofcourse my always enemy Ethiopian and BE there and any one come to ur NOMAD land u know how to deal with them!!..I mean hope u will know how to deal with them..... :mad:

 

In fact, prosecutors say, Abdi used the document to travel to Ethiopia to obtain "military-style training in preparation for violent jihad." The training included guns, guerrilla warfare, bombs and radio usage.

Is crime one visits his family back home???

plus we have NO training camps for what so ever called " terrorists" , just plain LIE.

 

Salam

[mojam]

Yankees, they saw the beard on this brother and they put a story together of him plotting to blow up a mall.

[pearl]

subxana allah..i feel soo sorry for him, our families know each other and his family told us that at first the government didnt have notin against him other than immigration passport issues in which he was at first charged with, but the story changed couple days later to include this bull$shit$ about blowing up a freakin mall..and that itself there is no proof of anything linking him to it, they just want to send him off to jail cuz he is a really good muslim, masha allah.

 

when his family first visited him..he was told not to speak somali to them and he agreed, but as soon as his family entered the room with their lawyer the guy was all in chains and he made a slight move, like turning his head...immediately the guards ran over and kicked the family and the lawyer out...cuz he done something he was forbidden to do…. :mad:

 

the reason why he was soo stoned out at court cuz is he has been given shots..and thats whats makin him act like that.

 

there are shots to make u do just about anything..even confess to crime u never committed.. :eek:

[OG Moti]

^^ just like the shots they gave Sadam Hussein, which the lion look like a sheep... they are against Islam period .. those of us who believe them are also sheep, Bush is one ***** person, i cant even call him human and a nation that elect such animal, him and ramisfield is not a nation of democracy or humanity... but what i don’t understand is their small brain didn’t tell them what a child could understand, u can oppress some people sometimes but u can never oppress a whole nation all the time… so as everyone predicted America will come on its knees because of Bush and his administration and he will lead America to hell, that everyone knows, and Ramisfield the shittty head, will pay his crimes soon or later, God does exist, and God will strike, aamiin

Peace

[checkmate]

dear brothers n sisters i just wanted to correct my self like brother MOTI insha allaah .....just know that allaah is just n he know wat's best for all of us .....we are all humans n when we see or hear anything unjust being done to another muslim brother/sister we became reactioniers but when we should be proactive ...

 

du'aas

may allaah make it easy for him n his family insha allaah

 

 

o'allah forgive us, take pity upon us and grant us sustenance

 

allaah! improve our religious life for that is to be out refuge and improve our worldly life for we hav ta liv it and prepare us for the afterlife which we shall hav to return and make this life a means to achieve every kind of good and turn death into a bliss before any evil state supervenes

 

o'allah help us in remembering thee, in expressing gratitude to thee and in worshipping thee in the best of manners

 

o'allah make us insignificant in our eyes and significant in the eyes of others

 

o'allaah we seek thy refuge from the knowledge that brings no good and from the heart that has no fear (of allah) and from the prayer that can't be entertained and from the self that can't be satisfied

 

 

asxantu

[Blessed]

That’s my friend’s brother. I can’t believe the nerve of these people. The whole case is based on complete lie. The only crime he committed was practice his Deen. A few months ago they've decided to deport him to Somalia (where he has never been) because they had no evidence as regards to him being a terrorist ... and now this. Subxan Allah.

 

May Allah grant him patients and rahmah through this.

 

 

Please make ducaa for the Brother and his family... and those of you in Columbus should try and get involved in a campaign or something!

 

 

Shaqsi, it’s not about Somali that are getting ‘beyond their depth’ it is a fine example of institutionalised racism against Muslims. Police terror against Muslims is so legitimised that any one of us is considered a terrorist and any one of us is at the risk of this brother’s predicament. You remain Muslim, you become 'extreme' you are a potential terrorist. It’s that simple now. They don't need any evidence to throw you in jail. He was a family man with his won business – what business did he have planning to bomb his local shopping mall

[Curly]

Am I imagining it or was this Arab news website being a little too bias against Somalis by insinuating and planting stereotypical views into the minds of readers?

 

From the title of “Somali Indicted in Ohio Mall Bombing Plot” you’re left wondering why this reporter decided that the origin of the man involved was so important that he had to mention it in the title.

The motives of this website are quiet clear to me, especially after they unnecessarily decided to mention the Somali population of Columbus.

 

“Columbus is home to more than 30,000 Somalis, the second-largest Somali community in the United States, after Minneapolis.”

 

I believe that this is all just a ploy to belittle Somalians as much as possible, I'm sure many of you all know the great amount of esteem Arabs have for Somalians.

 

But it’s sad that Arabs would rather concern themselves with the actions of us…their brothers and sisters in Islam, rather than the sordid and demeaning actions of the non-Muslims against the Muslims!

:mad:

[N.O.R.F]

May Allah grant him patients and rahmah through this.

ameen!!

[OG_Girl]

May Allah grant him patients and rahmah through this.

Ameen Ya rabi

 

Salam