N.O.R.F Posted September 26, 2004 Refugee who became Dutch MP defies Islam with film about Koran By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels (Filed: 31/08/2004) After describing the Prophet Mohammed as a pervert, Ayaan Hirsi Ali already needs round-the-clock protection from the Dutch security services. Now the Muslim apostate and rising star of Dutch politics has pushed her luck even further with a film exhibiting verses of the Koran across the chest, stomach and thighs of an almost naked girl. Ayaan Hirsi Ali Mrs Hirsi Ali, who has risen from Somali asylum seeker to Dutch MP in 12 years, produced the film broadcast on Dutch television on Sunday night to highlight the continued oppression of Muslim women in Europe. The 11-minute programme, Submission, depicts a young Muslim girl confronting Allah at prayer in a mosque. She wears the veil, covering most of the face, but her voluptuous body is clearly visible through a transparent gown. "All praise to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds," begins the text painted across the actress's throat, which then scrolls down her bare chest. It is taken from the fatiha or opening of the Koran, the lines recited aloud by men, and silently by women, at Muslim prayer five times a day throughout the world. Four other women act out scenes of torment and repression. One battered victim in a torn dress, exposes her shoulders and arms covered with lash wounds and the text of Verse 34, Chapter 4, The Women. "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made them excel and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient. Those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them," it says. The broadcast was watched by 750,000 people, a large audience in a country of 16 million. An estimated one million are Muslims of Turkish or North African origin. Mrs Hirsi Ali, 34, an MP for the free-market Liberals, has emerged as the unlikely heir of Pim Fortuyn, the homosexual firebrand who launched a mass movement to defend Holland's easy-going way of life against radical imams. While shunning his party, she has pursued his message, denouncing the country's 30-year experiment with multiculturalism - including 700 Islamic clubs funded by the taxpayer - as a disastrous error born of "misplaced guilt". Low-level fatwas - or death edicts - have been raining down since she attacked Islam as a medieval, misogynist cult incapable of self-criticism and blind to modern science. Mrs Hirsi Ali said she chose the naked body formula to open up the opaque world of Islam and show that there is a human being behind the veil. Steven Huismans, the director of Holland's Institute for Multicultural Development, said: "What she is doing is really provocative." Nabil Marouch, the head of the Dutch wing of the Arabic European League, said: "If the public keeps listening to Ayaan Hirsi, it will do great damage to integration." But Mrs Hirsi Ali has become immensely popular among the ordinary Dutch, people who have been shocked by the sudden emergence of large Muslim enclaves in their cities - often with ties to militant anti-western groups. A parliamentary report this year found that more than 70 per cent of Dutch-born Muslims were bringing in spouses from their home countries, perpetuating a separatist sub-culture. Mrs Hirsi Ali arrived in Holland as a penniless refugee in 1992 after sneaking across the German border to escape a forced marriage to a Somali kinsman. She did not speak a word of Dutch. Finding jobs as a cleaner, she went on to study political science at Leiden University. Her ambition now is nothing less than a reformation of Islam. = I feel sick! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted September 26, 2004 Ilaahay ha nacafiyo Walahi I don't even feel hatred for her or anger, I feel sorry for her. I pity her. Acuudi Bilaah, ilaahay ha soo hanuuniyo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomen nescio Posted September 26, 2004 Originally posted by Luis Garcia: I feel sick! I'd say this devil is better looking than the other one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahima Posted September 26, 2004 Acuudu bilaah. This woman needs to be dealt with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted September 26, 2004 Her father, who is considered by many a philosopher and a talented poet was also a radio personality during SSDF's armed struggle against Siyaad Barre's regime. He is a very religious man. Habaar waalid iska ilaaliya. Listen to him here talking about things you don't undertand. Xirsi Magan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qac Qaac Posted September 27, 2004 Reer baadiye ilbaxay what u expect..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by Qacbaro: Reer baadiye ilbaxay what u expect..... Reer baadiye ilbaxay waa kuwa ugu daran,,, wax ka daran lama arag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OG Moti Posted September 27, 2004 War iska daaya anigaa gartay waxa haya gabadha... Gabadhan waxaa laga dhaadhiciyey waad foolxuntahay, markaa beyba diintii kujeesatay.. ninkii yiri "dameerba dameertey ka folxuntahay bey ka haraati xuntahay" been masheegin.... iyo odey cabdulle oo yiri markuu maqlay nin baa diintii kabaxay yiri Ala maxuu ffuto xumid diinta ugalabaxay" marka anigu waxaan leyhay ffuto xumid bey diinta kala tagtay, Aduunka waxa ugu xun, qof aanan waxuu amiinsaneyn wata sida uu dadkale uga farxiyo, she knows she is wrong she just want to make the white man happy, and that is jaahilnimo tan ugu weyn... peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Changed Posted September 27, 2004 Like someone said; i feel bad for her. ALlah So Hanuniyo. she definately Needs That Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juxa Posted September 27, 2004 subxanalah, ilaahay sharteeda hana agmariyo. what saddens me, is that she can not see that the kufaar is using her. they dont give a toss about her. and this party which she is a memeber of, just wants the publicity. LST, u right, ilaahhabaar waalid naguma rido. tan oo kale waa lagu jano tagayaa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raula Posted September 28, 2004 subxanallah-she is really cursed(allaha ha so hanuuniyo-iyo kuligeenba-aamiin) Illahi waxaan ka baryaaya naxaristiisa iney naso gaarto(aamin). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloow Posted September 28, 2004 ASC, I don't see the reason why we should debate (talk about) Ayaan. She is publicity seeking woman (Had it not been those crazed arabs in Amsterdam who issued so-called Fatwa) Ayaan would be nOBODY. Let us cease with discussing her, her work etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RendezVous Posted November 2, 2004 By the way after doing alot of research on women in both biblibal and Quranic versions...and the tendencies among the indian/Roman/European...we found out the follwoing information...you can go to www.jamaat.com or continue reading the following pieces of information...then judge... PRINT IF YOU CAN IT IS IMPORTANT 1.FREEDOM A young girl came before the holy Prophet perplexed and anxious and exclaimed: “O Messenger of Allah. . . From the hand of this father...†“But what has your father done to youâ€, the Prophet asked. “He has a nephewâ€, she replied, “and he has given me in marriage to him before consulting me in the matterâ€. “Now that he has done it,†said the Prophet, “you should not oppose it. Agree to it, and be your cousin’s wife.†“O Messenger of Allah! I do not like my cousin. How can I be the wife of a man whom I do not like.†“If you do not like him, that is an end to the matter. You have full authority. Go and make the choice of man whom you would like to marry.†“By chanceâ€, the girl finally admitted, “I very much like my cousin and do not like any other person but because my father did this thing without asking my consent, I have purposely come to put questions on this matter and to get your replies and hear this decision from you, and so inform all women that henceforth fathers have no right to take a decision on their own and give their daughter in marriage to anyone they like.†2.GENERAL RIGHTS Women in Islam Islam has given women rights and privileges that they never enjoyed under other religious or constitutional systems. The rights of women in Islam are unique, novel, and have no similarities in any other system. What Islam has established for women is that, which suits their nature, gives them full security and protects them against disgraceful circumstances and uncertain situations. Islam recognizes women as full and equal partners of men in the procreation of humankind. Women have equal share in every aspect; they are entitled to equal rights; and they undertake equal responsibilities. Women are equal to men in the pursuit of education and knowledge. When Islam enjoins the seeking of knowledge upon Muslims, it makes no distinction between men and women. Almost fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (PBUH) declared that the pursuit of knowledge is incumbent on every Muslim male and female. This declaration was very clear and was implemented by Muslims throughout history. Women are entitled to freedom of expression as much as men. Their sound opinions are taken into consideration and cannot be disregarded just because they happen to come from a member of the female gender. Historical records show that women participated in public life with the early Muslims, especially in times of emergencies. Women used to accompany Muslim armies engaged in battles to nurse the wounded, prepare supplies, serve the warriors, and so on. Islam grants women equal rights to contract, to enterprise, to earn and possess independently. Women's life, property, and honor are as sacred as those of men. If women commit any offense, their penalty is no less or more than of men in a similar cases. If a woman is harmed, she gets due compensations equal to what a man in her position would get.(2:178;4:45, 92-93). Islam has given women a share of inheritance. Before Islam, women were not only deprived of that share but were themselves considered as property to be inherited by men. Out of that transferable property Islam made an heir, acknowledging the inherent human qualifies in women. Whether a woman is a wife, a mother, a sister, or a daughter, she receives a certain share of the deceased kin's property, a share which depends on her degree of relationship to the deceased and the number of heirs. This share is hers, and no one can take it away or disinherit her. Even if the deceased wishes to deprive her by making a will to other relations or in favor of any other cause, the Law will not allow him to do so. According to Islam both men and women are equally entitled to inherit the property of the deceased relations but the portions they get may vary. In some instances men receive two shares whereas women get one only. The reason men receive two parts of inheritance is that, men are responsible for the complete maintenance of their wives, their families and any other needy relations. It is the man's duty by Law to assume all financial responsibilities and maintain his dependents adequately. It is also his duty to contribute financially to all good causes in his society. All financial burdens are borne by men alone. On the other hand women have no financial responsibilities whatsoever except very little of her personal expenses. Women are financially secure and provided for. If a woman is a wife, her husband is the provider; if she is a mother, it is the son; if she is a daughter, it is the father; if she is a sister; it is the brother, and so on. If she has no relations on whom she can depend, then there is no question of inheritance because there is nothing to inherit. Maintenance of such a woman is the responsibility of the society as a whole, the State. She may be given aid or a job to earn her living, and whatever money she makes will be hers. If Islam deprives the female completely, it would be unjust to her because she is related to the deceased. Likewise, if she is given a share equal to the man, it would be unjust to him as he is the one who bears all the financial responsibilities. So, instead of doing injustice to either side, Islam gives the man a larger portion of the inherited property to help him to meet his family needs and social responsibilities. In some instances of bearing witness to certain civil contracts, two men are required or one man and two women. Women may not be as experienced in practical life as men. This lack of experience may cause a loss to any party in a given contract. So the Law requires that at least two women should bear witness with one man. if a woman of the witness forgets something, the other one would remind her. Or if she makes an error, due to lack of experience, the other would help to correct her. This is a precautionary measure to guarantee honest transactions and proper dealings between people. Women enjoy certain privileges of which men are deprived. Women are exempted from some religious duties, i.e., prayers and fasting, in her regular periods and at times of confinement. She is exempted from all financial liabilities. As a mother, she enjoys more recognition and higher honor in the sight of God .The Prophet acknowledged this honor when he declared that Paradise is under the feet of the mothers. Women are entitled to three-fourths of the son's love and kindness with one-fourth left for their father. As a wife she is entitled to demand of her prospective husband a suitable dowry that will be her own. She is entitled to complete provision and total maintenance by the husband. She does not have to work or share with her husband the family expenses. She is free to retain, after marriage, whatever she possessed before it, and the husband has no right whatsoever to any of her belongings. As a daughter or sister she is entitled to security and provision by the father and brother respectively. That is her privilege. If she wishes to work or be self-supporting and participates in handling the family responsibilities, she is quite free to do so, provided her integrity and honor are safeguarded. The standing of women in prayers behind man is a regulation of discipline in prayers, and not a classification of importance. The order of lines in prayers is introduced to help every one to concentrate in his meditation. It is very important because Muslim prayers are not simply the sing-a-song type. They involve actions, motions, standing, bowing, prostration, etc. So if men mix with women in the same lines, it is possible that something disturbing or distracting may happen. The mind will become occupied by something alien to prayer and derailed from the clear path of mediation. The result will be a loss of the purpose of prayers. No Muslim man or woman is allowed during prayers to touch the body of another person of the opposite sex. If men and women stand side by side in prayer they cannot avoid touching each other. Furthermore, when a woman is praying in front of a man or beside him, it is very likely that any part of her dressed body may become uncovered after a certain motion of bowing. The man's eye may happen to be looking at the uncovered part, he will be exposed to distraction or possibly evil thoughts. So, to avoid any distraction to help concentrate on meditation and pure thoughts, to fulfill the true purposes of prayers, Islam has ordained the organization of rows, whereby men stand in front lines, and women behind the children. A Muslim woman should beautify herself with the veil of honor, dignity, chastity, purity and integrity. She should refrain from all deeds and gestures that might stir the passions of people other than her husband or cause evil suspicion of her morality. She is warned not to display her charms or expose her physical attractions before strangers. The veil that she must put on is one that can save her personality from demoralization. Islam is most concerned with the integrity of women, with the safeguarding of their morals and morale and with the protection of their character and personality (Qur'an, 24:30-31). The rules for women in Islam are realistically suitable to their nature. Their rights and duties are equal to those of men but not necessarily or absolutely identical with them. If a woman is deprived of one thing in some aspect, she is fully compensated for it with more things in many other aspects. The fact that she belongs to the female gender has no bearing on her human status or independent personality. Islam gives her as much as is required by her. Her rights match beautifully with her duties. The balance between rights and duties is maintained, and no side overweighs the other. When you're covered (hijab), you're treating each other as human beings without being distracted by the physical appearance and will be evaluated for intelligence and skills. Covering is ordered in the Quran, and it is not nearly as restrictive as some people believe. The translation for hijab (the term used for covering the hair, arms, and legs) is "shield", and it is shielding the woman from harm and corruption. It doesn't restrict the freedom of the woman to move about, to carry out all her normal duties. Wearing the Hijaab isn't just a matter of simply putting a piece of cloth on your head, it is an attitude, a way of thinking and behaving, and accepting yourself for who and what you are. Basically it constitutes an Islamic way of life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Passion_4_Fashion Posted November 3, 2004 nacalatallah calaa wajhak (ayaa) she called the Prophet(scw) pervert? subxaanallah walaahi my blood is boiling.....tan wax qaarajiyo ee istaahishaa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nafta Posted November 3, 2004 the fact is that the somali people in Holland, or what is left of them since they moved to the UK, they are despised by the Morrocan and Turkish and other Muslim people in that country. They probably think we are all a bit like her and we think on the same wavelength. The Morrocan people even went on saying that if the soomaali won't do anything about it, then they would. She's a disgrace to us, and honest to god i wish ina la toogado Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites