Blessed Posted April 2, 2004 I don’t normally respond to these topics – as I find this whole idea of tribalising, nationalising, racialising beauty to be ultimately ignorant and sheds streaks of shallowness by some people. I’m sorry if that come across as being harsh, I think it's time we got over-ourselves! It’s really sad how people get so upset/happy on the grounds of what others perceive of them in terms of looks. Does it really matter if some1 thinks you pretty or ugly? Isn’t being content with what Allah given you enough? Is a beauty a make or break factor - or just one aspect human life? Also, some people need to stop disrespecting others on the grounds of their features.. subxan Allah! Some of the things posted in these forums are so shocking at time. I don’t know how anyone can disrespect abburta Ilahay like that! It's even more sad to see members of a Muslim community like ours be so quick to repeat the orientalist perception of beauty and not give a second thought to the people (Somali) that we claim to represent. For your information folks – not all Somalis look the same – we have Arab looking Somalis, skinny tall people, short fat people and many who look ‘African’ with ultra dark skin and wide noses. Somalis are that diverse and that is one of the things the things that I love about our people. Laakin, sadly it's this very perception that creates tribal conflicts withing our community - where some wouldn't be seen dead with a member of another tribe because they look too madaw / adoon and some other ignorant bull. It, true that the world view holds whiteness at the peak of beauty – the more whiter a persons skin colour the more European their features - indicates that they are prettier than the unfortunate ones. This is reflected by the sentiments of many Somalis - brothers always wnated to be introduce to inan dheer oo cas ama gabadh gaaban oo gaduudan lol they even sing about - and you get others who go around claiming to be Arabs, sistrs killing themselves with bleach iyo balaayo and dissing on ‘african people’ – cos they'r ugly (not white) SAD! Don’t get me wrong folks your entitled to your preferences – but please stop the disrespect and stop imposing your own perception of beauty on others… also be a bit more sensitive – I’m sure ya’ll wouldn’t be that assertive with your ignorance had you been face to face with people who look like those you insult…! Speaking of Iman, Did you guys see that BBC documentary last Sunday? I found it quite disturbing how they spoke so highly of their beauty as black women and repeated the ‘black is beautiful’ mantra – but every single one of them (including Iman) had a weave on? Yeah, right, and my name is Michael…!! If these ladies are so proud of their black beauty why don’t they stay natural? soryy 4 hadalka badan any offence taken from my post to have gone off topic nomads >>>> I leaves you all in peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7_steps_2_Heaven Posted April 2, 2004 Devil's advocate - racist, moi? never hon. al'right I did label them as "sanka dhuudhi" but hey half of my close friends r black n I ain't no diffrent so how can I be racist. does one word make u racist? if so, I'm guilty of that crime. sis, I don't see Somalis "superior" than other Africans. I mean, how can we be? what's that we have got that they haven't? abayadiis we all are Adams children, if they've got wider nose or jareer hair stil I don't c them diffrent, as long as they got their nose n hair to where it belongs then how r we diffrent? just wanted to clerify that 1 "we all are cousins under the skin" ps, I would never marry an outsider though (ajanabi). racist or not-racist u may think I am but hey that's just me. and nobody can't judge me for that!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted April 2, 2004 Originally posted by Ameenah: Speaking of Iman, Did you guys see that BBC documentary last Sunday? I found it quite disturbing how they spoke so highly of their beauty as black women and repeated the ‘black is beautiful’ mantra – but every single one of them (including Iman) had a weave on? Yeah, right, and my name is Michael…!! If these ladies are so proud of their black beauty why don’t they stay natural? I was thinking exactly the same thing. They all kinda looked similar, except for Alek Wek. She used to scare me when she joined the industry, but she's been growing on me since. I think she's very striking. Good thing she's representing 'alternative' beauty eh? I say go girl! As for the unceasing 'somali women dating/married to ajinabi' debate, I couldn't care less. Completely bored with the subject. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macalin Posted April 2, 2004 except for Alek Wek. She used to scare me when she joined the industry, but she's been growing on me since. I think she's very striking. Good thing she's representing 'alternative' beauty eh? I say go girl! ----------- I find Alek,Beautiful!---'striking BeautY kulaha!,is that away of sayin some else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Posted April 2, 2004 LST, true brotha. These racist attitudes among us have long existed against our own people...iska baa daa anjabi. I say..forget about the somali elders (they're a lost cause)start with your peers and circle of friends. I always find myself getting into debates about racism with somali youths.....not only is it against Islam but the attitude itself has no basis. If you're living in the US, I suggest you pick up a book about African American history...I'm not talking about bio. of Malcom X...seriously, it was an eye opener for me! Nafisa, lol@mom, you know what..everytime I talk to ayeeyo she advices " maandhay haa ii keenin anjani" What can u say to that..lol. On the issue of marrying outside ur ethnic culture...I say Illaahi hadu kuu beenayey...what more do u need? You'll never satisfy humans! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuujiye Posted April 3, 2004 Somaaliyeey waxaan idin ogaysinayaa in aan SANKA DHUUDHI aduunka ugu necbahay, waxaana ka sii necbahay SANKA DHUUDHI LOVERS .... uf uf uf baaf qandho ah qurquriya :eek: :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuCkY Posted April 3, 2004 Whats the point of trying to interact with Ignorant,Arrogant peopLe. :rolleyes: Its useLess I teLL Ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted April 3, 2004 hey NOMAD! I meant to say this heading south, last one please bring the flag!! so ppl r so idho adhag, its incredible!!.. the writing is on wall!!!!hello...u either do or u dont!!! so dont get bent out of shape if u date the forbidden fruit!!lol...its your choice... dee ok!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlayMaker Posted April 3, 2004 I think this is obvious you guys are insecure with yourselfs that is why you making a big deal ouf of this issue, I mean if somali guy goes with an afr-american sista i never see a brotha getting all upset because that chick is going with a somali man...As long if that person is muslim then who are you to say who somali sista can go out and who not.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted April 4, 2004 The racism card does not apply here. This is a culture&morale issue. Its funny how Somali women respect and honour other men. Her feminism views from Oprah & Dr.Phil shows are strictly applied for Somali men only. WHY? Why is she a complete RAALIYA to foreigners? {TO ALL THE PROS: Don't bring the "THEY'R GIVING WHAT THEY GET IN RETURN argument.} Most of them are in an abusive relationship. He cheats on her, and she still washes his feet, he gives her a black eye and she's thinking: once you go black you can't go back & sucks it up. Worst part is that those women can't express themselves as much as they could in their 1st language {yacni kuma jaq jaqlayn karto} Markaas bay Somali Caayaysaa :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted April 5, 2004 Originally posted by Bishaaro: Its funny how Somali women respect and honour other men... Worst part is that those women can't express themselves as much as they could in their 1st language {yacni kuma jaq jaqlayn karto} Markaas bay Somali Caayaysaa :mad: Baraawo, baraawo Bishaaro {magac fiicanaa, Bishaar magacyada aa ka danbeeyo uu ku jiraa, and of course Bishaaro too}. Wax lala yaabo qaarkood xataa af Soomaali ma maqli karaan, iska dhaaf in ee ku hadlaan; dhab ahaan waxaa laga hayaa hal qof shaqsi eh ku jiro meeshaan in uu meel SOL fagaare eh ka dhahay, and I quote: "The only reason i still speak it {af Soomaali} is because it makes my mom happy." That same person is a vigorous defender of anjabi, especially African-Americans' culture including their Ebonic argot, but shuns away anything resembling, relating or likening Soomaali. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted April 5, 2004 Originally posted by garab tuujiye: Somaaliyeey waxaan idin ogaysinayaa in aan SANKA DHUUDHI aduunka ugu necbahay, waxaana ka sii necbahay SANKA DHUUDHI LOVERS .... uf uf uf baaf qandho ah qurquriya :eek: :eek: Forgive me, but isn't the term 'sanka dhuudhi' used as an insult against members of a particulare Somali tribe? DnD I was thinking exactly the same thing. They all kinda looked similar, except for Alek Wek. She used to scare me when she joined the industry, but she's been growing on me since. I think she's very striking. Good thing she's representing 'alternative' beauty eh? I say go girl! I disagree, I don't think shes an alternative at all - just a few shades darker than you average, still tall, skinny and UN-healthy...she reminds of Kate Moss - she looks pretty alternative in a drug addict type of way...Don't see wah de deal with Alek is. The fashion industry will surprise me when they have a super model that less than 5'9 and with more meat than bones .. now that would be alternative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senora Posted April 5, 2004 I knew that it would turn out like this... What i find even more annoying is how people in here are so fake...... "I'm not a racist, i dont feel superior compared to other non-somalis, we all come from Adam, and i see no difference, I dont feel threatened"...... BUT "its aigt aint wrong with that!...... step down to their level.......oh well faraxs we have a mission to stop this 'DAANQUURS' from doing damage ......sanka dhuudhi.....W'up with Somali girl's addiction to blck men these days..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkerman Posted April 5, 2004 Battle of the sexes again huh. Oh well i guess am with the gents with this, but i would also add that as Muslims (cant try to over emphasis this enough) we shouldnt indulge with this dating game at all, unless we are seeking a serious relationship. So leave the rest to their vices The fact that somali girls are going out more n more with non-somali's be they blk guys or white guys or asian is something that no one shouldnt get over emotional about. Thats their choice, the guys do exactly the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7_steps_2_Heaven Posted April 7, 2004 princess_sexy.....sanka dhuudhi waa eray ka mid eh af soomaaliga..hadad isticmaashit ma cunsuri baad tahay? do u understand the meaning of cunsuri? what is ur defenition? vitun kusipaa aivo, ganuunacaaga nakala tag! acuudi minnak...."pepole here r so fake" maxaa dadka fake ka dhigaayo?? :eek: :rolleyes: painu vittuun lehma :mad: sa oot ensimmainen kaks naamainen henkilo joka on ikina elanyt mailmassa joten pida turpas kiinni holmo!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
