Attempted coup d'etat against leadership of the Amhara regional state: Abiy's Comments

[Suldaanka]

On 6/24/2019 at 11:49 PM, Che -Guevara said:

Brig. Gen. Asamnew Tsige was killed according to Ethiopian government.

This is his funeral... doesn't look a man with fringe politics. 

 

[Suldaanka]

This is from Tigrai Online 

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Here are the few facts that we know about the coward General who is said to be behind all this cowardly act. We know that he once was an (officer?) in the Derg’s army and who was once captured by the gallant forces of TPLF. This coward received the mercy of the ever confident leaders of the TPLF and was, after some indoctrination, incorporated in the ranks and file of the armed struggle. Once EPRDF took control of the country, he rose to the ranks of Brigadier General in the Ethiopian Army. That seemed to be not enough to this ungrateful coward. Not long after, he was caught red handed conspiring with the enemies of Ethiopia such as Ginbot 7. He was sentenced to life by the court after reviewing the damning evidences. However, on the name of Medemer, our new leader “King Abiy”, decided to release this beast from his cage where he was supposed to remain for the rest of his life. 

King Abiy, not only released him from prison but reinstated his ranks and retirement benefits. It did not stop there, the Amhara Region made him a hero out of a captured coward and made him the head of their security forces. Bolstered by the empty adulation and the false stature, he realized he could be even better that what he was. Then he decided to do what he did, costing the lives of two decorated generals, including three leaders of the region. 

Source: Tigrai Online: Who released the Monster?

[Suldaanka]

One thing is for certain, Abiye Ahmed is just a seat warmer for the two biggest warring groups namely Tigrai and Amhara.

The Tigrai are in a better position to assume leadership come 2020. But the Amhara will pose a real threat to the stability of Ehtiopia.

For Oromos and Somalis, when it comes to between Amhara and Tigray, the Tigray at least offers self-rule whereas the Amhara will abolish completely the Federal structures and return to the centralist dictatorship. 

[Che -Guevara]

I assume the uniformed men are local militias not regional forces. Amharas have been openly arming and training.

I wouldn't discount Oromos. They feel empowered and have the numbers and weaponry to match. Their problem is they are picking fights with everyone. They lack discipline and strategy.

[galbeedi]

The TPLF are photoshopping to spread propaganda. Actually, general Asaminew was a member of those who opposed the Derg. in late eighties.  Besides how 28 years old photo is similar to current picture of the general.  

The Ethiopia of 1970/80 or even 90 will not come back. Despite their education, sophistication and history, Amhara can't reverse the federal Ethiopia of today. The Oromo territory has borders on every region except the Tigray. If Abiy is not allowed to proceed with his reform , the Amhara can kiss good by to Ethiopia. We know Abiy is danger because he is dismantling the Northern highlanders hegemony on power.

Today, he needs a strong anti Amhara leader in the Somali state, and with support of Afar, Southern nations, Benshaguli-Gomez and some reform minded Amhara in Addis , he could win easily.

I know some Somalis want the old Ethiopia to come back for survival reasons, but that dream is dead. I never thought in million years, the Northern highlanders will be cordoned in their area. Both the Amhara and the Tigray are landlocked. Unlike Somalis, Oromo, Afar, and others they do not have access to regions with sea access. 

 

[galbeedi]

Even  Showa is Oromo land today.

The TPLF could be rehabilitated if they stop hindering the reform. Eritrea in the North and the rest of Ethiopia in the South Tigray can't go anywhere at the moment. 

[Che -Guevara]

It's  being alleged Abiy  was in Bahir Dar when rhe coup unfolded. Depending on who you  ask, Abiy was target or instigator.

[Tillamook]

There is so much misinformation being used by all sides to rile their supporters and undermine their enemies. And every ethnic group mistrusts all the other ethnic groups. 

Ethiopia, it appears, is facing the ominous threat of civil war.

The unrest in Amhara region, the spread of unruly militias, and the sinister rise of anarchism, are ample signs that show the Abiy reforms have caused a power vacuum and many power hungry groups have now become emboldened to strike while the iron is hot to take advantage of the chaos and test Abiy’s resolve. 

In my opinion,  if a disastrous civil war is to be avoided in Ethiopia , some immediate steps must be taken to bring all the regions under the control of Addis Ababa(including the heavily armed Tigray state), disarm the general public, and work on rebooting the economy of the nation.

However, the likelihood of this happening is very slim, because Abiy currently does not appear to have the political and military clout necessary to secure the nation.

[galbeedi]

2 hours ago, Tillamook said:

Abiy reforms have caused a power vacuum and many power hungry groups have now become emboldened to strike while the iron is hot and take advantage of the chaos and test Abiy’s resolve. 

Certainly, communal violence and chaos leads to anarchy. It was the same thing that led to the disintegration of Somalia. Southern leaders allowed looting and other crimes which eventually led to disaster.

Abiy had nurtured the Amhara elite and allowed them openly  to propagate their Old Ethiopia narrative. They even claimed that Abiy is anti federal . He must use democratic rhetoric while enforcing tough security measures.

[Old_Observer]

3 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Certainly, communal violence and chaos leads to anarchy. It was the same thing that led to the disintegration of Somalia. Southern leaders allowed looting and other crimes which eventually led to disaster.

Abiy had nurtured the Amhara elite and allowed them openly  to propagate their Old Ethiopia narrative. They even claimed that Abiy is anti federal . He must use democratic rhetoric while enforcing tough security measures.

The Amxara were smart/deperste regarding Federalism. They made Abiy to soften his stance on it, and his support the little he had in Oromia was eroded.

Even Kililka leader became hesitant and intimidated by Amxara, not to state uncompromising stance on federalism.

On top of that there is this suspicious relation with Afwerki, who has openly stated that if Ethiopia wants peace should destroy the TPLF structures, mainly federalism and be like Eritrea where there is no respect for other Ethnics or Faiths.

The power center has shifted in Ethiopia some 25 years ago. Now even the Somali who was considered like Foreigner has power to agree or disagree in Federalism.

Abiy did not grasp how deep the past is in the present. He forgot there are government officials from Oromo who changed their names to Amxara name to go to school.

 

 

[Old_Observer]

3 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Certainly, communal violence and chaos leads to anarchy. It was the same thing that led to the disintegration of Somalia. Southern leaders allowed looting and other crimes which eventually led to disaster.

Abiy had nurtured the Amhara elite and allowed them openly  to propagate their Old Ethiopia narrative. They even claimed that Abiy is anti federal . He must use democratic rhetoric while enforcing tough security measures.

There are regions in Oromia and Amxara kilils where its worst than at the height of warlords and bandits in Somalia. As long as it was against Tigray government, it was OK. Now it has become problem of those who supported the disorder and chaos, which they thought was easy to bring back to order once they get to power.

The Youth demonstrators now have taken life of their own. They have replaced local governments in many regions in both Kilil.

Somali, Afar and Tigray are relatively most and only orderly kilils in Ethiopia today.

 

 

[Old_Observer]

12 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Even  Showa is Oromo land today.

The TPLF could be rehabilitated if they stop hindering the reform. Eritrea in the North and the rest of Ethiopia in the South Tigray can't go anywhere at the moment. 

Eritrea is a one man country. It means its day to day affair. Never forget also that Tigray/Afar from Ethiopia and also Sudan can take measures/eliminate him if they become desperate. Both are capable of doing it, and he knows it.

Have a chat with some ONLF that were in Eritrea. Everybody was clearly told to not do any operations in Ethiopia without permission from Eritrea.

Some 11 Ethiopian rebel organizations sat in Eritrea for 20 years. Some never been to Ethiopia at all. ONLF was the only one that can do some operations for obvious reasons.

[Che -Guevara]

What are they  saying. Observer?

l,

[Che -Guevara]

 

[Che -Guevara]

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