Che -Guevara Posted June 24, 2019 Peace, Abiy might be trying to start his own version Qey Shibbir (red terror). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted June 24, 2019 Amhara activists are already claiming 4000 Amharas are being massacred by Abiy so far. They are saying the whole thing was a setup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadafi Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Holac said: Amhara activists are already claiming 4000 Amharas are being massacred by Abiy so far. They are saying the whole thing was a setup. Let's hope our boy Jawar and his like launches a media campaign on the axmaarta. His kind of oromo, and not Abey Ahmed are the ones who whill finally put Meneliks project in the dustbin of history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted June 24, 2019 Herman J. Cohen @CohenOnAfrica "Failed coup in #Ethiopia's Amhara state was an attempt by ethnic nationalists to restore Amhara hegemony over all of Ethiopia that existed for several centuries prior to 1991. That dream is now permanently dead." 2 hours ago, Holac said: Amhara activists are already claiming 4000 Amharas are being massacred by Abiy so far. They are saying the whole thing was a setup. I heard the same thing. A friend of mine told me that an Amhara wo-worker told him that about 1500 Amhara notables had been detained since the failed coup. It is now or never. Abiy must crush the Amhara for good. It is the only way . Also , Abiy must investigate whether the Saudi and UAE despots are behind some of the Amhara political activities. They and Amhara are both against freedom and open society. Abiy needs to reform and change the current configuration of EPRDF immediately. Somalis and Afars must be added in equal numbers like the rest of the four groups. If voting comes, Somali, Afar, Oromo will vote for him and gain majority easily. Furthermore, Mustafe Cagjar must be very careful. No one appreciates his unitarian Amhara talks in the media. We might even need a tough Somali in our Kilil who confronts the Amhara head on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Holac said: Amhara activists are already claiming 4000 Amharas are being massacred by Abiy so far. They are saying the whole thing was a setup. They never tire of the lies and fake propaganda even though the Oromo were the same against Somali kilil. Remember the Jawar fake news and even pictures from other countries? There may have been a set up since the government has capability to intercept all communication (that is how Tigray used to prevent any terrorism, plus human intelligence) and then let them do it and use it. Tigray also must have supported them since all those Amxara radicals were opposition from day one in 1991. They are the worst in killing each other. Very intolerant and since they are running out of options and time they will kill each other even more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, galbeedi said: Herman J. Cohen @CohenOnAfrica "Failed coup in #Ethiopia's Amhara state was an attempt by ethnic nationalists to restore Amhara hegemony over all of Ethiopia that existed for several centuries prior to 1991. That dream is now permanently dead." I heard the same thing. A friend of mine told me that an Amhara wo-worker told him that about 1500 Amhara notables had been detained since the failed coup. It is now or never. Abiy must crush the Amhara for good. It is the only way . Also , Abiy must investigate whether the Saudi and UAE despots are behind some of the Amhara political activities. They and Amhara are both against freedom and open society. Abiy needs to reform and change the current configuration of EPRDF immediately. Somalis and Afars must be added in equal numbers like the rest of the four groups. If voting comes, Somali, Afar, Oromo will vote for him and gain majority easily. Furthermore, Mustafe Cagjar must be very careful. No one appreciates his unitarian Amhara talks in the media. We might even need a tough Somali in our Kilil who confronts the Amhara head on. Participate and take advantage, but keeping full autonomy and distance should come first for the Somali, even if there is a loss of couple million Birr. I think you were the one who grouped the Oromo: Amharized Oromo Muslim Oromo Traditional Oromo It always works. When they are done with Amxara they will be at each other throat. 1/3 of Oromia is not under Abiy control. Its all OK now since there is bigger threat. Oromos will always be intimidated by Somali since the Somali has confidence and they don't. Tigray is insurance for the north of Ethiopia and also can work with most in the South. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted June 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: Oromos will always be intimidated by Somali since the Somali has confidence and they don't. I agree . 1/3 (Hararghe) of the Oromo will always be our allies despite some land disputes. AS you said, the Amhara are really ruthless and intolerant. OO, is there any tendency among the Amhara to separate if they can't get the old unitarian Ethiopia?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 25, 2019 7 hours ago, galbeedi said: I agree . 1/3 (Hararghe) of the Oromo will always be our allies despite some land disputes. AS you said, the Amhara are really ruthless and intolerant. OO, is there any tendency among the Amhara to separate if they can't get the old unitarian Ethiopia?. Impossible for Amxara to have anything in terms of territory. There is no Amxara Ethnic by ancestry. All Professors politicians agree on this. They are scattered every wehere. Amxara is a class of people that were soldiers, functionaries, tax collectors..etc for rulers in old. Agew, Tigray, Oromo are the main components that form Amxara. Its like the Turks, Ottomans, Arabs. Mercenaries of Sulatanates becoming a tribe. In some cases these tribes take over the Sultanate. Everybody called Amxara is really other Ethnic by ancestry. That is their main problem. That is why they stopped the census, because their real number is estimated less than 10 million. They have never had a stable political party that last more than 4 years. Regional division is very deep. Some are interested only on Addis Ababa and never care of the rest. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted June 25, 2019 Abiy has supposedly summoned regional leaders, all accepted the summon except Tigray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 1:05 PM, Che -Guevara said: Abiy has supposedly summoned regional leaders, all accepted the summon except Tigray. The Amxara are throwing so many rumours and inuendos. This is one of them. Now they are accusing Abiy why he doesn't send army to Tigray. What they forget is Amxara are anti-federalism Tigray is not. There is order in Tigray. Any problem is manageable within Kilil no need for Federal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted June 27, 2019 56 members of NAMA were arrested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Che -Guevara said: Not him again. Always with Amxara lobby. He was against Kilil, Federalism..from beginning. The lie is that people like him and Amxara make it look like Ethiopia before Federalism was fair, equal, peaceful and hollywood love. The Somali alone has fought for 100 years. The last 10-15 years were relatively most peace the Somali has seen. The reason is ONLF was half and half, mostly wanting to give federalism a try. Oromos fought from Balle to Wellega now 50 years to separate, Tigray and Afar fought 44 years ago ... Muslim was second class. If it was not for federal system Ethiopia would have died in 1991. That is why Illey was enemy number 1 for Amxara and Abtigis number 1 friend. Its not because Illey was dictatorial, they do not care about it. What they cared about was Kililka gtowing was like a country within a country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Che -Guevara said: 56 members of NAMA were arrested. Now 260 And fom Addis Ababa Amxara movement 67 Last II saw on the news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted June 28, 2019 Obverser At that rate Abiy would either have to become new Sisi (which is going to be hard) or Ethiopia is heading for civil war. And this tim around, there will be no one to put humpty dumpty back together again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites