Saalax Posted June 7, 2019 The Emiratis must be getting desperate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 8, 2019 UAE has already succeeded not trying, it has accomplished what it wanted. When was the last time you heard Farmaajo praising Turkish or Erdogan where they took all the risks of coming to Mogadishu to show the world that Somalia is on its way back? The army they started to train, the elite army they were going to train in turky...etc? When was the last time you saw or heard Formaajo consulting with the only other Somali head of state Ghelleh? When was the last time Farmaajo was hafing and puffing of taking UAE to UN about Berbera? When is the last time you heard a Somali politician talking about banning UAE from doing any business in Somalia? When was the last time you heard any politician about keeping sanctions on Eritrea as long as Al Shabab and some powerful persons in Mugadishu are preventing SFG? Contrary to this Somali politicians of Farmmajo are tripping over each other to replace all forigners with Eritrea/Ethiopia. By any measure UAE is actually most successful foreign country in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted June 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: UAE has already succeeded not trying, it has accomplished what it wanted. When was the last time you heard Farmaajo praising Turkish or Erdogan where they took all the risks of coming to Mogadishu to show the world that Somalia is on its way back? The army they started to train, the elite army they were going to train in turky...etc? When was the last time you saw or heard Formaajo consulting with the only other Somali head of state Ghelleh? When was the last time Farmaajo was hafing and puffing of taking UAE to UN about Berbera? When is the last time you heard a Somali politician talking about banning UAE from doing any business in Somalia? When was the last time you heard any politician about keeping sanctions on Eritrea as long as Al Shabab and some powerful persons in Mugadishu are preventing SFG? Contrary to this Somali politicians of Farmmajo are tripping over each other to replace all forigners with Eritrea/Ethiopia. By any measure UAE is actually most successful foreign country in Somalia. UAE wants Qatar out of Somalia and that is not possible with the current government of Farmaajo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted June 8, 2019 I would not worry about these Sheikhdoms. They are not good at executing anything. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 10:14 AM, Che -Guevara said: I would not worry about these Sheikhdoms. They are not good at executing anything. Yes, but even the attempts they make are enough to create chaos. Look no further than Ethiopia. America wanted China and Turkey out, but the Arabs UAE and Saudis who promised so much and assured America they will take care of it, could not replace Turkey let alone China. The Turkish had Schools, Construction, industrial area, Sugar projects, Textiles and all Turkish technical capacity. Arabs have to hire Pakistanis or Indians for Textile, Europeans or Americans for Sugar, Others for construction..Arabs do not make guns or other equipment the Turkish do... Ethiopia is now back in China hands after wasting a year. Turkish will not be far behind. The Turkish have not stopped their works in Afar and Tigray anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhagax-Tuur Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 3:14 PM, Che -Guevara said: would not worry about these Sheikhdoms. They are not good at executing anything. The thing is they carry suitcases full of money, and nowadays sadly that's all somali person in a position of influence is needed to conform to whatever agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted June 10, 2019 It seems the government of Somaliland is doing exactly what I thought they might do to achieve their political aim. In other words, the leadership in Somaliland will dance with any devil who intends to harm Somalia as long as Somaliland's interests are served in the process. The longer koonfuria hangs onto the coat tail of Somaliland, the bigger the dangers to their security, stability, sovereignty, and economy. The question is: for Koonfuria, is Somaliland worth any cost? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 6:57 AM, Tallaabo said: It seems the government of Somaliland is doing exactly what I thought they might do to achieve their political aim. In other words, the leadership in Somaliland will dance with any devil who intends to harm Somalia as long as Somaliland's interests are served in the process. The longer koonfuria hangs onto the coat tail of Somaliland, the bigger the dangers to their security, stability, sovereignty, and economy. The question is: for Koonfuria, is Somaliland worth any cost? When Eritrea was fighting for separation from Ethiopia, other separatist groups were being born every 2-3 years. Tigray (started with separatist group, but soon Ethiopian side took over) Oromo Sidama Somali After Eritrea separation not single new group of separatist born and all now are federalists. In UK after the Scottish revival for independence during Thatcher years Wales is now autonomous North East England wants to be autonomous region Unless you solve the first one and kill the separatist movement its only a matter of time for others to start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FBISOMALIA Posted June 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: When Eritrea was fighting for separation from Ethiopia, other separatist groups were being born every 2-3 years. Tigray (started with separatist group, but soon Ethiopian side took over) Oromo Sidama Somali After Eritrea separation not single new group of separatist born and all now are federalists. In UK after the Scottish revival for independence during Thatcher years Wales is now autonomous North East England wants to be autonomous region Unless you solve the first one and kill the separatist movement its only a matter of time for others to start. After 30 years in Somalia . Result is : SL separated state , PL semi autonomous state Galmudug + Jubaland + South west + hiirshabeela. federal states. Xamar not official capital until now . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites