Ibtisam Posted June 20, 2007 You are talking out of your own observations and perceptions. Could it be possible that when you're in the West you mix with religious people (for obvious reasons) and that when you're home you mix with ALL sorts of people? No I don't mix with religious people in the west at all, they think they are too good for the likes of me :rolleyes: If they do they always tell me off, ~~And I have few really good Muslim friends, the rest are dodgy Muslims, fake Muslims, weak Muslims or many non Muslim. So no your theory is flawed. I mix with ALL sorts here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted June 20, 2007 dodgy Muslims, fake Muslims, weak Muslims or many non Muslim looooool ,,,, si fiican baad ku kala dhigdhigtay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted June 20, 2007 NG, observations saxib, observations. But your right a divisive argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted June 20, 2007 ^^^ Still, if you say there aren't that many, does that mean all the ICU mullahs and their supporters were fakes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms DD Posted June 20, 2007 What is nigis gaab J? That sounds dodgy. Ng I believe that Islamic education is more accessible here than in Somalia. PS You need to change your pet-hate. It is what most of us live on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted June 20, 2007 Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^^ Still, if you say there aren't that many, does that mean all the ICU mullahs and their supporters were fakes? Why are so many kids here watching whats her name (the Egyptian one who sings) than the numerous Islamic/decent channels and kids in UK are watching Islam Channel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted June 20, 2007 ^^Short knickers?? why are you asking him that Ms DD, sounds dodgy. Ngonge mullah supports just like to follow something, anything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted June 20, 2007 ^^ In other words, FAKE You said it, not me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted June 20, 2007 Originally posted by Xanthus: Most people pray because everyone is praying or because they can hear the adan or because it is part of their every day life Xanthus, how can you know that? What an outrageous statement! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted June 20, 2007 ^^^Keep your hair on dear^^ I was merely pointing out that there is no thought process involved, it is like eating food three times a day because food is placed in front of you! I should change to "the people i met pray because...." but the other that i stand by it! Ngonge: Don't put words in my mouth please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Lily- Posted June 20, 2007 I was merely pointing out that there is no thought process involved, it is like eating food three times a day because food is placed in front of you! I should change to "the people i met pray because...." but the other that i stand by it! Yes praying can become a habit laakin surely one makes a conscious decision to pray? I find it hard to say that the droves of ppl who go to the mosque all go to impress each other. EDIT: Perhaps just they act nonchalant about it (unlike some uk ppl I know) doesn’t mean they don’t care! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted June 20, 2007 Originally posted by Xanthus: I was merely pointing out that there is no thought process involved, it is like eating food three times a day because food is placed in front of you! I should change to "the people i met pray because...." but the other that i stand by it! What I am asking is, how are you so certain that this is why they pray? That there is no thought process involved? Did they tell you that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted June 20, 2007 ^^^lol^^ I did not say impress, the truth is they don't find the fact that someone is praying as impressive at all. With some people i think it has no meaning, one of our security guards use to say waan soo foorfoorsanya, or maadaaxan duulka kuu soo xooqaayah, it was all a big joke. To be honest i was disappointed because they have so much opportunity to make use of Islamicly while we have less (time, effort, availability, money)and they don't or it does not show, Islam is a way of life, and you can see it on people, i did not see it in Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Lily- Posted June 20, 2007 ^^^ Well that's just lack of understanding, many ppl pray without knowing the meaning of what they are saying or doing, not sure if those kind of prayers are accepted, but I'll let someone with more Islamic knowledge answer that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted June 20, 2007 VAl: No i did not ask everyone if they think before they pray, i asked one or two cuz, who were praying incorrectly, and when i tried to correct them, I said miyaad iskaa tuukantaah and they said, daadkuba wii iiska tuukaadan. Lily; A lot of the people i met had similar or same attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
