What is SOLers views and stand on situation in Sudan?

[Old_Observer]

America's stand:

Was OK with the military council, but wants to pressure the council to be more on its side, there fore America encourages, supports..etc for the military council to talk to the opposition

Africans stand:

AU says 3 months to transfer power to civilian. That is meaningless since the Sudanese military is setting up civilian government anyway. What should have been said is 6 months to do election and transfer to the winner of the election. This 3 month stinks of Uganda, Egypt...

European stand:

Negotiate with opposition...but all that you do please make sure the refugee flow from Eritrea and other parts of Africa stays closed.

 

My Stand is:

Military council to continue stabilize the country, the economy (remember democracy cannot be bread), prevent entering and setting up shops by America, Europe, Arabia..Let the national assembly continue and check on government and part of the laws that is not suspended. In a years time discuss with national assembly and call for election.

 

 

[Old_Observer]

Oh the Arabs coming to Sudan with their childish games:

April 18, 2019 (KHARTOUM)- The head of the Transitional Military Council (TMC) Abdel Fattah al-Burhan Thursday sacked the Foreign Ministry’s Undersecretary Badr al-Din Abdallah Mohamed-Ahmed.

Sudan’s foreign ministry building in Khartoum (SUNA)

The decision comes after a statement by the foreign ministry saying that arrangements are being made for a visit of a high-level Qatari delegation.

The Foreign Ministry issued a press statement on ongoing preparations for a visit of a Qatari delegation to the country "without consultation with the Council and without its knowledge," said the TMC Spokesman Lieutenant-General Shams al-din Kabbashi during a press conference on Thursday.

Also, "The statement did reflect the official position of the Transitional Military Council," he added.

The dismissed diplomat was a member of the National Congress Party de the former President Omer al-Bashir.

The Council and the foreign ministry denied in separate statements a report by Alarabiya TV saying that the TMC had refused to receive a Qatari delegation.

[Old_Observer]

Great news: The professionals: Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers...are the change makers always in Sudan.

 

Sudan’s professionals to announce nominees for transitional civilian council

 

April 19, 2019 (KHARTOUM) - In a bid to increase pressure on the military council, the Sudanese Professionals Association (SPA) Friday called for a press conference on Sunday to announce the names of the nominees for the transitional civilian council.

"At the press conference, will be announced, the nominees to assume the Sovereign Civil Council," said the statement, adding that "The conference will also elaborate on the advanced efforts on other civil authorities, (...)".

On Saturday 13 April, the Freedom and Change forces met with the head of the Transitional Military Council who pledged to hand over power to a civilian government very soon.

On Wednesday, the opposition groups released a letter they handed over to the military council after the meeting detailing their position on the transitional institutions.

In its statement, The SPA recalled that there would be a transitional presidential council that will assume the sovereign functions of the state, a lean government composed of qualified and professional people and an appointed 120-member legislative assembly including 48 women at least.

The transitional parliament "includes all the revolutionary forces of youth and women and takes into consideration the Sudanese ethnic, religious and cultural diversity," stressed the SPA in its statement.

The professionals who lead the protests during the past 4 months organised on Thursday a series of huge demonstrations across the country to reiterate their demand to transfer power to a civilian government.

The military council is also under regional and international pressure in order to speed up the power handover to civilians, as the African Union threatened to suspend Sudan’s membership by the end of April, the EU said it will not recognize the military regime and Washington underlined that sanctions will not be left.

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[Old_Observer]

What makes Sudan different from the rest, a cut above:

Islamist forces call to task military with Sudan’s transitional leadership

 

April 24, 2019 (KHARTOUM) - Sudanese Islamic forces called for a transitional period led by the military council with a civilian government and an appointed parliamentary assembly.

The call was made on Tuesday by the Popular Congress Party (PCP) and the National Coordination for Change and construction (NCCC) after separate meetings with the political committee of the transitional council.

"The army has played a decisive role to achieve change in the country when it stood by the people," said Idris Suleiman, political secretary of the Popular Congress Party in statements to the official news agency SUNA after the meeting.

He said that the PCP does not want to participate in the transitional government, noting that it must be composed of politically independent qualified personalities with the needed competence, experience and know-how.

"We are not with the option of a joint military-civilian council, either it is a military or civilian sovereign council," he stressed.

The PCP political secretary was referring to the proposal of the Freedom and Change forces which call for a collegial presidency including military and civilian personality.

Suleiman said that the transitional period should be for one year after the adoption of a transitional constitution. He added that his party submitted a proposal for a transitional constitution to the military council.

In a separate meeting, the Political Committee of the military council received the proposals of the National Coordination for Change and Construction (NCCC) on the transitional period.

The NCCC includes a number of Islamic leaders known for their criticism of the government of President Bashir.

"The interim military council should be in charge of the sovereignty of the country during the transitional period, alongside a civilian government of independent personalities, as well as a legislative council that monitors the government performance," Shafie Ahmed Mohamed, head of the coordination, told SUNA after the meeting.

He added that the interim constitution of 2005 and the amendments made to it until 2011 is the most valid document for the transitional period.

The Military Council had announced that the Political Committee is seconded by a group of experts and university professors to study the proposals submitted by the political and social forces on how to manage the country during the transitional period.

For its part, the Freedom and Change forces announced the suspension of contacts with the political committee, while the Sudanese Professionals Associated called to organize popular protests against the junta to force it to hand over power to the opposition groups and to recognize their revolutionary legitimacy.

Sudanese opposition groups that led the 4-month protests against the rule of President Omer al-Bashir accuse the head of the military council Omer Zain al-Abdin who is an Islamist military of seeking to include the Islamist forces in the transitional period arrangements.

But the council denies the charge saying they only seek to establish a political consensus and to keep the national cohesion.

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[Duufaan]

The  best that can happen to sudan is, a civilian  temporary government before elections take place. Sudan does not need another dictator. the civilian government will be able to manage dealing the geopolitics better than a dictator. they will be able to  do business everybody. It seems no one is able to defeat the protesters and they know what they want.

[Old_Observer]

8 hours ago, Duufaan said:

The  best that can happen to sudan is, a civilian  temporary government before elections take place. Sudan does not need another dictator. the civilian government will be able to manage dealing the geopolitics better than a dictator. they will be able to  do business everybody. It seems no one is able to defeat the protesters and they know what they want.

The professionals have already agreed to have civilian government under the military council. That is the best way. Sudan is a country with more than 150 languages and so many parties. The military is needed to keep all parties in line and talking. Otherwise the country cannot function.

[Old_Observer]

Turkey says Sudan did not cancel Suakin deal

 

April 26, 2019 (KHARTOUM) - Turkish government has denied reports that the Transitional Military Council has cancelled an agreement with Ankara to restore Ottoman-era artefacts on Sudan’s Red Sea coast island of Suakin.

The Turkish Cooperation and Coordination Agency (TIKA) is continuing to restore Ottoman-era artefacts on Sudan’s eastern coast, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Hami Aksoy, according to the Turkish news agency Anadolu on Friday.

He stressed that press reports about the cancellation of the deal and the expulsion of Turkish worker from Suakin were not accurate.

On 20-21 April, several Arab and Turkish newspapers reported that Sudan had decided to revoke a deal sealed with the Turkish government in December 2017.

At the time, the deal had been criticized amid reports claimed that Turkey would establish a military naval base in the strategic Island.

But Ankara said the deal, which was signed following a visit to the ruined port by President Tayyip Erdogan, provides to transform the area into a culture and tourism centre.

Located on the west coast of the Red Sea, the island is only 261 nautical miles away from Jeddah, the second largest city in Saudi Arabia.

Until the 19th century, Suakin was the residential address of the Ottoman Empire’s Habesh Eyalet, which encompasses today’s Eritrea, Djibouti and northern Somalia.

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[gooni]

Aragtidayda

Suudaan waa shacab wadaniyad leh garanaya qiimaha dal iyo dawladnimo leedahay

Ciidankooda kornayl walbaa lama tagi karo askarta beeshiisa

Madaxweynihii la xiraa qabiil u mudaaharada ama u dagaalama ma jiro

Markii lasoo koobo waxay xaq u leeyihiin oo istaahilaan inay helaan xukum madani ah oo shacabku soo doortay

Askartu xuduudka dalka ha ilaaliso iyo amniga qowmiyadoo dhan.

Halka soomaaliya u baahantahay taas cagsigeed ama badelkeed inay hesho ciidan sodon sano wadaniyadda akhlaaqda iyo nolosha bara.

 

[Old_Observer]

7 hours ago, gooni said:

Aragtidayda

Suudaan waa shacab wadaniyad leh garanaya qiimaha dal iyo dawladnimo leedahay

 

That is the most important characteristic of Sudan, not many Africans or Arabs understand. The Sudanese have had regime changes, but always reconcile and also minimum loss of life or property.

There is a very high level of respect for human life, relative to other countries in the horn of Africa.

 

[Old_Observer]

11 hours ago, Ducale said:

May Allah protect The Good People of Djibouti from  the delusion of "Arab/african" spring. 

 

IOG Allaw Dhawr

So far so good.

Djibouti has played smart and also lucky that Somaliland, Kililka and Afar all refused to play what was intended by UAE as delivered by Eritrea and Ethiopia.

It looks like all these regions have the capacity to say no, or unlike Farmaajo to tell Djibouti first.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

7 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

It looks like all these regions have the capacity to say no, or unlike Farmaajo to tell Djibouti first.

I know after your obsession of boogeyman Afwerki, second is madaxweyne Farmaajo (who represents Soomaaliya and her midnimo). Isn't Farmaajo who refused to follow what the Imaaraad's wanted by pressuring the government to cut Qadar's diplomatic ties? Those renegade provinces of Soomaaliya you over-praise on here daily followed Imaaraad's dictation, albeit being powerless to do anything.

I know you like to praise regions of Soomaaliya that its current leaders do not advocate for the unity of Soomaalis and Soomaaliya. Your little agenda can be seen from 100 kilometres away ee sheekada naga daa.

Let's talk about your Xabashi region in Tigreyland and how little influence it has these days.

[Old_Observer]

8 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

I know after your obsession of boogeyman Afwerki, second is madaxweyne Farmaajo (who represents Soomaaliya and her midnimo). Isn't Farmaajo who refused to follow what the Imaaraad's wanted by pressuring the government to cut Qadar's diplomatic ties? Those renegade provinces of Soomaaliya you over-praise on here daily followed Imaaraad's dictation, albeit being powerless to do anything.

I know you like to praise regions of Soomaaliya that its current leaders do not advocate for the unity of Soomaalis and Soomaaliya. Your little agenda can be seen from 100 kilometres away ee sheekada naga daa.

Let's talk about your Xabashi region in Tigreyland and how little influence it has these days.

What do you think of the civilized people of Sudan?

 

As per Turkish/Qatar Famaajo is complete fail. While he was in Asmara a few hundred Somali came back from Turkish after completing their training. The whole idea was the regular army trains in Somalia and the special forces train in Turkey.

This whole project, the single most important project for Somalia is now almost dead, since Farmaajo relied on Abiy and Afwerki who are UAE's lieutenants. I thought you would be mad with the failure of this program alone, leaving aside the constitution issue which again now is in another shelf.

As for the situation in Ethiopia. Long way to go to take shape. An Oromo official criticized an Eritrean author and the whole Oromo people were up for his neck. Its that much fragile. Tell Farmaajo if you have any line of communication, to be careful.

[Old_Observer]

Here is a small example how developed politics is in Sudan.

The people's congress party (Al Bashir) never banned the communist party.

Yet now those who call themselves progressives are making a condition for them to accept the Transition council, if it bans the PCP which is called by the progressives as Islamist party.

Now the PCP has demanded that the prime minister in the transitional government be a christian. They prefer a christian rather than the "progressives' who some are agents of Western and Arabs.

 

Those who were calling for democracy are the most intolerant of democracy.

All the PCP did was tried to implement Sheria, whereevr practicable and possible, but always protected others rights including having communists in parliament.

[Old_Observer]

The whole thing has hit a snag.

 

Europeans are not happy that the Transitional government may not be good at stopping refugees as Bashir was in his last years.

Egypt and America are not happy that the Transitional regime maybe still the same Brotherhood with little change.

Already US, Britain, French, Dutch, German, Swidish...embassies are vising daily the sit ins and demos to continue.

Eritrea, Ethiopia are also not happy that Al Bashir people are still everywhere.

The revolution is split. The Mahdi family is also in the middle. Add to it the Brotherhood which are keeping low profile publicly, but still very powerful.

 

[galbeedi]

I think the Sudanese military is on the side of the people at the moment. The Egyptian Brotherhood made a huge mistake of taking the whole thing to themselves. They refused to shared power with the secular democrats who started the revolution  without even giving them the prime minister while holding both the parliament and presidency.

They even dismissed General Mohamed Tantawi, the army chief who deposed Mubaarak. 

Sudan must avoid the Arab fat boys from the gulf whether its Qatar or UAE.. Let the army supervise the and work with the transitional military government without huge upheaval.

The Brotherhood in Sudan is one of the oldest and experienced in the region. They used to get along with Bashiir. 

Finally, keep away the the agitators paid to saw anarchy.