UN & AMISOM start evacuation as Alshabab readies siege on Mogadishu

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Somalia's Army leave frontlines and go home as Cheeseman fails to provide their salary and food items. 

 

 

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[Che -Guevara]

Your problem is defining your identity and goals in relation to Somalia's current situation.

We behave well and Somalia is bad is not winning strategy. One would think you would understand  that by now.

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[Old_Observer]

Very disappointing for all Somali people everywhere, but not surprising.

Coffee time in Amxara Kilil with Afwerki and Abiy was sheer stupidity when you have the Turkish willing and capable to help you, but you go for Coffee time in Eritrea and Amxara two areas where Afwerki has openly stated Turish should be kicked out of Suakin/PortSudan and the Amxara had burned some Turkish businesses in their resistance to Tigray/Ethiopia.

Replacing AMISOM with Eritrea was a non starter.

Ghelleh must have given Farmaajo .....with that Somali smile.

Turkish will not mind if Farmaajo is gone, they can work with anyone that is effective.

The worst thing of all was what was done in SWS. Using childish method in an adults world. Not only Farmaajo even Abiy received a "dirty" look from the Army.

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4 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Your problem is defining your identity and goals in relation to Somalia's current situation.

We behave well and Somalia is bad is not winning strategy. One would think you would understand  that by now.

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This is news. Nothing to do with my identity and goals. 

We called that Cheeseman was a fraud and now almost any Somali worth his salt knows that he is a total fraud. A sell out.

After years, the situation in Mogadishu is at its worst. 

 

 

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[Old_Observer]

Abiy is travelling to Arabs, Afwerki is not feeling well.

I wonder who will come to Farmaajo help, not Amisom, not SWS, not Puntland..maybe Jubaland will come to his rescue.

[Holac]

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Coffee time in Amxara Kilil with Afwerki and Abiy was sheer stupidity

Where is @galbeediwhen you need his verdict?  This is a terrible news my brothers. This nations, which was slowly rising one president after another,  must have taken 5 steps backward today for us to be talking about evacuating NGO workers from Xalane, the most secure buffer zone left in the country. This is more than a disaster.

Why are people still defending Farmaajo? 

[Duufaan]

2 hours ago, Holac said:

Where is @galbeediwhen you need his verdict?  This is a terrible news my brothers. This nations, which was slowly rising one president after another,  must have taken 5 steps backward today for us to be talking about evacuating NGO workers from Xalane, the most secure buffer zone left in the country. This is more than a disaster.

Why are people still defending Farmaajo? 

This is a calculated  wave of propaganda for the most part. Very much hypocrisy. You was never a fan of Farmaajo from day one.  are you serious about wondering why people still defending him?.If it is all about president after president for you. I am very much sure the next election will not be held in xalane or the airport , it will be held somewhere else and supervised by Somali security forces. The reason the Farmaajo co are supported by the people is they are doing a lot of things right. 

[Old_Observer]

Constitution, Constitution..was the first order of business.

You cannot fight Shabab without constitution. No body knows what his share of power, share of resource is and also share of responsibility in fighting Shabab.

Both President and PM are against it. Leap service will not cut it.

Why would anyone fight Shabab without knowing their place in the country. Why take a great risk to your existence when the great possibility is that Alshebab under changed name will take over the country.

 

 

 

 

[galbeedi]

War Jiraaba Cakaara ayuu iman.

I see this latest army movements as what we call in Somali language as " Ujeedo badan"  Having talked to many people the evacuations are both political and bureaucratic weakness.

First of all,  in Somalia , everything is politically motivated.The internationally connected wing of Al-shabaab who serves the interest of those  sowing chaos within the Muslim nations have taken their orders seriously. They have hit Xalane compound late last year and are raving up their bombing campaigns in the capital.

Second , there are two group of armies  created in Mogadishu. One is called " Xasilinta Muqdisho".  The other one is mostly a militia  type army run and controlled by Mogadishu politicians and are mostly comprised from the Mogadishu based tribes(Unaka and HG). 

The first group of " Xasilinta are mainly from Gedo, Dayniile and some from south west. THese group get three times a day meal and timely salary. The government want these groups to take over the security of the city. 

The second armies  numbers are unknown. They fluctuate according to their commanders and usually miss their salary every few months. Yet, these groups which are considered to be militia are manning the most dangerous army bases that confronts Al-shabaab daily.They are the main fighting force in both Shabbelaha Dhexe and Hoose. 

The fear that is gripping Amisom isn't about Al-shabaab coming to Mogadishu but their own protection. The Amisom army bases in Lower Shabbele and Middle Shabbele have Somali forward bases and checkpoints  that look out and engage Al-shabaab before the Amisom. Even the Somali army chief of staff said that the mechanized Amisom hide behind the lightly armed Somali soldier. Without the Somali forward bases looking for the movements of Al-shabab , Amisom would be a sitting ducks like it did happen in Leego to the Burundi forces. 

If these Somali soldiers leave their check points , Al-shbaab will blow the gates and storm them anytime. So , it is Amison who is panicking.

The story that some of these men didn't get pay is true. Whether their commanders stole their money or not registered might be  true, but the fact is that they didn't get paid while manning war fronts.

Now, while there are unpaid soldiers, the coordinated move to abandon all the bases at the same time is clearly a political move to damage the government and was intended to oust prime minister Khayre.

So, there could be a coordination between the foreign wing of Al-shabaab; HG group who wanted to embarrass and finally oust the prime minister and Amisom itself who are sending messages to the international community and Farmaajo himself. Uganda want Farmaajo to abandon the Eritrea and Ethiopia option . 

Farmaajo was planning to replace the do nothing Burundi contingent who are the weakest among Amisom and slowly replace the Ugandan with Eritrean soldiers. The British, Ugandan and Kenyans do not want this slow movements of troop replacements, and want to keep the status quo. Rather than give Farmaajo time, they want to make the situation dangerous with help of the opposition , Al-shabaab and international community.

Today the narrative in the media is the false evacuation of Xalane. That is why the African Comand chief general Waldhauser is meeting Farmaajo after the alarms of the media reached him.

The only good news is for the first time we have seen a large Somali army manning many different regions. Yet, a serious government should not eat, party or live comfortably until the Somali soldier gets paid. I do believe that the whole government bureaucracy must be mobilized to serve no one but the army. 

Dawlada dhani iyo maamulkuba waa in uu ku wajihnaada ciidanka, rashinkooda, mishaarkooda iyo qalabayntooda.Xageed ku aragtay dawlad dagaal ku jirta oo Muqdishu ku xafladaynaysa. Xaflad nin nabad qaba ayaa dhigta.

Farmaajo ha ogaado waxa u hadhay bishan March 2019 bishheda kale. Sanadka afraad waa doorasho iyo is riix riix. 

Farmaajo can fight back and push his agenda whether hell or high water comes, or he will be forced to follow the usual status quo and keep Amisom for many years to come. There is high unemployment across the Somali region. He could pay $300 dollars and attract young boys across the country and create a  real national army or he will keep doing the same thing and recycle the Mogadishu militia while paying them  $100 dollar bi-monthly without success.

Fadlan ha i maqashiin lacag la'aan baa jirta. Sowta Hoteelada Muqdiasho baruurta lagu cunayo.

Well, It is now or never. 

[galbeedi]

OOdweyne is correct in terms of Somaliland soldiers getting paid on time. Siilaanyo doubled their salary and they never miss their salary., never.

Duufaan also have case in terms of Some Garaad community militia who have divided loyalty being paid through their clan commanders during the Siilaanyo reign, although now most of the Garaad militia being absorbed by Somaliland army.

[Old_Observer]

35 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

War Jiraaba Cakaara ayuu iman.

I see this latest army movements as what we call in Somali language as " Ujeedo badan"  Having talked to many people the evacuations are both political and bureaucratic weakness.

First of all,  in Somalia , everything is politically motivated.The internationally connected wing of Al-shabaab who serves the interest of those  sowing chaos within the Muslim nations have taken their orders seriously. They have hit Xalane compound late last year and are raving up their bombing campaigns in the capital.

Second , there are two group of armies  created in Mogadishu. One is called " Xasilinta Muqdisho".  The other one is mostly a militia  type army run and controlled by Mogadishu politicians and are mostly comprised from the Mogadishu based tribes(Unaka and HG). 

The first group of " Xasilinta are mainly from Gedo, Dayniile and some from south west. THese group get three times a day meal and timely salary. The government want these groups to take over the security of the city. 

The second armies  numbers are unknown. They fluctuate according to their commanders and usually miss their salary every few months. Yet, these groups which are considered to be militia are manning the most dangerous army bases that confronts Al-shabaab daily.They are the main fighting force in both Shabbelaha Dhexe and Hoose. 

The fear that is gripping Amisom isn't about Al-shabaab coming to Mogadishu but their own protection. The Amisom army bases in Lower Shabbele and Middle Shabbele have Somali forward bases and checkpoints  that look out and engage Al-shabaab before the Amisom. Even the Somali army chief of staff said that the mechanized Amisom hide behind the lightly armed Somali soldier. Without the Somali forward bases looking for the movements of Al-shabab , Amisom would be a sitting ducks like it did happen in Leego to the Burundi forces. 

If these Somali soldiers leave their check points , Al-shbaab will blow the gates and storm them anytime. So , it is Amison who is panicking.

The story that some of these men didn't get pay is true. Whether their commanders stole their money or not registered might be  true, but the fact is that they didn't get paid while manning war fronts.

Now, while there are unpaid soldiers, the coordinated move to abandon all the bases at the same time is clearly a political move to damage the government and was intended to oust prime minister Khayre.

So, there could be a coordination between the foreign wing of Al-shabaab; HG group who wanted to embarrass and finally oust the prime minister and Amisom itself who are sending messages to the international community and Farmaajo himself. Uganda want Farmaajo to abandon the Eritrea and Ethiopia option . 

Farmaajo was planning to replace the do nothing Burundi contingent who are the weakest among Amisom and slowly replace the Ugandan with Eritrean soldiers. The British, Ugandan and Kenyans do not want this slow movements of troop replacements, and want to keep the status quo. Rather than give Farmaajo time, they want to make the situation dangerous with help of the opposition , Al-shabaab and international community.

Today the narrative in the media is the false evacuation of Xalane. That is why the African Comand chief general Waldhauser is meeting Farmaajo after the alarms of the media reached him.

The only good news is for the first time we have seen a large Somali army manning many different regions. Yet, a serious government should not eat, party or live comfortably until the Somali soldier gets paid. I do believe that the whole government bureaucracy must be mobilized to serve no one but the army. 

Dawlada dhani iyo maamulkuba waa in uu ku wajihnaada ciidanka, rashinkooda, mishaarkooda iyo qalabayntooda.Xageed ku aragtay dawlad dagaal ku jirta oo Muqdishu ku xafladaynaysa. Xaflad nin nabad qaba ayaa dhigta.

Farmaajo ha ogaado waxa u hadhay bishan March 2019 bishheda kale. Sanadka afraad waa doorasho iyo is riix riix. 

Farmaajo can fight back and push his agenda whether hell or high water comes, or he will be forced to follow the usual status quo and keep Amisom for many years to come. There is high unemployment across the Somali region. He could pay $300 dollars and attract young boys across the country and create a  real national army or he will keep doing the same thing and recycle the Mogadishu militia while paying them  $100 dollar bi-monthly without success.

Fadlan ha i maqashiin lacag la'aan baa jirta. Sowta Hoteelada Muqdiasho baruurta lagu cunayo.

Well, It is now or never. 

I agree with your description of the situation, but you missed one very very important country in your possible solutions and way forward, the Turkish.

Farmaajo has to go back and assure the Turkish that he will not repeat his past failures and failing them.

He also need to reduce all that Abiy/Afweri shenanigan and reconcile with Ghelleh, but even if he does not do that, going back to the Turkish and this time very seriously is critical. Don't forget that one of the openly repeated speeches of Afwerki is kicking the Turkish from Suakin, Sudan.

The Abiy/Afwerki team must have been instructed from UAE to reduce Turkish and Chinese activities in Ethiopia. The Turkish have only one project on the go which is largest industrial area in Tigray with some schools and clinics in Afar kilil.