Tommy Hilfgher

[Thinkerman]

> >BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!!

> > >

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> >Good for Oprah!!!! I'm sure many of you watched the recent

> > >>>>>taping of

> > >>>>> >The Oprah Winfrey show where her guest was Tommy Hilfiger. On

> > >>>>>the show,

> > >>>>> >she asked him if the statements about race he was accused of

> > >>>>>saying

> > >>>>> >were true. Statements like"... if I'd known African-Americans,

> > >>>>> >Hispanics, Jews and Asians would buy my clothes, I would not

> > >>>>>have made

> > >>>>> >them so nice. I wish these people would *NOT* buy my clothes,

> > >>>>>as they

> > >>>>> >are made for upper class white people."

> > >>>>> >His answer to Oprah was a simple "YES". Where after she

> > >>>>>immediately

> > >>>>> >asked him to leave her show. My suggestion? Don't buy your

> > >>>>>next

> > >>>>> >shirt or Perfume from Tommy Hilfiger. Let's give him what he

> > >>>>>asked for.

> > >>>>> >

> > >>>>> >Let's not buy his clothes. Let's put him in a financial state

> > >>>>>where he

> > >>>>> >himself will not be able to afford the ridiculous prices he

> > >>>>>puts on his

> > >>>>> >clothes.

> > >>>>> >

> > >>>>> >BOYCOTT PLEASE, &SEND THIS MESSAGE TO ANYONE YOU KNOW

[Reality Check]

I heard Timberland (the shoes all black cant live without) was also the president of the KKK..

 

I could be wrong thou.

 

Confirmation?

[Xafsa]

lol. At least he told the truth.

Why buy brand names just for the sake of the brand? If I like what I see I buy. Like those hijaabs and skirts that came out with the CK on them....what the hell is that? I'm gonna walk around branded?

[Reality Check]

This is a statement Oprah made on her show:

 

 

"So I want to just set the record straight once and for all. The rumor claims that clothing designer Tommy Hilfiger came on this show and made racist remarks, and that I then kicked him out. I just want to say that is not true because it just never happened.

 

"Tommy Hilfiger has never appeared on this show. READ MY LIPS, TOMMY HILFIGER HAS NEVER APPEARED ON THIS SHOW. And all of [the] people who claim that they saw it, they heard it -- it never happened. I've never even met Tommy Hilfiger."

 

 

Taped live on "The Oprah Winfrey Show"

January 11, 1999

[hukri]

First :eek:

 

then...damn!!

 

and then some more :eek: :eek:

 

Now a moral question; should I keep my tommy girl perfumes?? :rolleyes:

 

 

|Peace|Love|Respect|

[Dhimbil]

Yes you should keep tommy.

 

Personally, i think tommy stuff are just wack. But about the comment he made regarding minorities, i just don't buy it. If it was true, you would not have seen black artist publicly wearing his clothes. Also, someone who made that kind of comment would just turn around and 'pay' blacks to wear his clothes, remember Aaliyah was spokes person for his brand one time.

[Lefty]

Whose story is right ?..The whole thing must be he said she said.

 

Anyway, I could careless whether he's truly Racist or not and I would simply buy anything that I feel like buying them from anyone without second guessing. Besides Who isn't racist in this world ?...Everyone is Racist in one way or another and I consider myself another racist too since I somehow dislike all Oriental people LOL.

 

P.S. Oprah show sucks!

[Starlight]

Thats basically what it has been a hoax and a made up tale.

I dont think that Tommy hilfiger stated anything about black people people just made it up as a joke there was even a poem supposively written by Maya Angelou about tommy

 

it went like this

 

You are in love with Tommy,

Because his last name is Hilfiger,

But behind closed doors, Tommy, Is calling you a nigger,

But you could care less, Because you have been taught to dress to impress,

If I ask you about your true history, You would have to look on the back of your jeans and Guess,

You come up in the club wearing versace, Clothes made by a homosexual male,

So even when you say you are straight, It is very hard to tell,

And for footwear, you wear Timberlands,

Even under the sun, That some tree that the symbol for them, Could have been the same one your ancestors were hung from,

I cannot forget Nautica, When was the last memory you have of ships,

Coming to North America in shackles, Being beaten over the back with whips,

And to my beautiful black queens, Whose creative womb has become barren,

I am confused because your face says Nefertiti, But your sweater reads Donna Karen,

When was the last time you saw Liz Claiborne, Conversing with black women,

But as soon as her name is printed on a purse, To Macy's you quickly go, running,

 

Ralph Lauren doesn't even look at black men, Unless they are driving him around town,

But as soon as that slave master appears on the back of a horse, You put whatever you have picked up down,

 

My people, reclaim your status in this world and in your life,

Fubu in case you didn't know, stand for (For Us By Us),

Buying black will someday suffice, Do you know who owns Timberland fashion?

Well, Timberland is owned by the president of the KKK, Surprised?

Don't be. Read more books black people,

Always hope for the best and prepare for the worst,

You may not get what you pay for, But you'll surely pay for what you get.

 

Maya Angelou

 

 

and this is Tommy's comment about the whole thing

 

 

"I am deeply upset that a malicious and completely false rumor continues to circulate about me. I create my clothing for all different types of people regardless of their race, religious or cultural background. I want you to know the facts so that you are not the victim of a classic "urban myth" that perpetuates untruths and has no basis in reality. Please read further to learn the truth."

[Senora]

maybe it was just a rumour...i remember hearing about this some years back, but when Aaliyah became one of their "spokesmodels" and when i heard that the whole Oprah thing might be a lie,i got a little skeptical...but oh well...I'm more shocked at this...

Originally posted by Lefty:

 

 

P.S. Oprah show sucks!

:eek: :eek:

[Section6er]

some people are funny. They will belive anything that can not be prooven. The story about hilfiger never happened. Don't take it from, take it from Oprah.

[stpaulchick]

I think Oprah is a fake and I think she's "white". I don't believe ppl who let George Bush win so I really don't care what she does to Tommy Hilfiger.

Flying_still: I did see those CK hijabs...but isn't that wrong since it's copyrighted????? :confused:

[Changed]

i tend to like the CK Hijaabs they are easy to handle....

 

about hilifigher he is racist but i still use his products. ..i got the gift pack for a birthday gift and trust me i aint about to throw that $70 gift pack away just cuz he is a racist :rolleyes: But BLack People Should Know better Than Buying His Products....

 

stpaul.....i cant believe u dont like oprah.. :eek:

 

Happy Sahuur

[rudy-Diiriye]

aliyah, oparh the whole lot dont give a damn about them! dont watch tv! read! u be better off! dont be controlled via remote control if u get my drift tv is where get controlled sup-conciously!

:confused:

[Tony_Montana]

Claim: Designer Tommy Hilfiger shocked the world when he appeared on a television talk show and said, "If I knew that blacks and Asians were going to wear my clothes, I would have never designed them."

Status: False.

 

Origins: Rumors

that Tommy Hilfiger made a racist remark exploded onto the Internet in the fall of 1996 after a news article purporting to be from a Philippines tabloid began making the online rounds. These self-same rumors had been in circulation at least nine months earlier, but the appearance of this article brought them to critical mass.

 

According to Cristina Peczon (author of the article), the revealing remark happened on CNN Style with Elsa Klensch, during an interview with both Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren on the latest fashion trends:

 

 

Hilfiger then supposedly butted in then with a comment, something like it is one thing for one's label to go popular worldwide, but there are some people who just don't look well in "their" designer clothes. Hilfiger then allegedly named several Asian races, apparently saying that he preferred if "these people" wouldn't wear their line — particularly Filipinos!

Though many were up in arms about this article (there were calls for a boycott of Hilfiger products), no one was ever quite sure what the designer had said, who he'd said it to, or even which ethnic group he'd slammed. One version had him saying, "If I knew that blacks and Asians were going to wear my clothes, I would have never designed them." More colorful renditions had him making his shocking revelation on national TV and Oprah Winfrey then throwing him off her show. (Oddly enough, the same story has been told about Liz Claiborne since 1991, that Oprah threw her off the show after Liz claimed she didn't design for Black women as "their hips are too big." That didn't happen either. See our Liz Biz page for more about that rumor, and the one that she gives part of the company's profits to the Church of Satan.)

A 1997 newspaper article debunking this tale noted:

 

 

In one cybermyth, Hilfiger supposedly told style reporter Elsa Klensch of CNN that he didn't think Asians looked good in his clothes. Then, as the story morphed, he told Winfrey the same thing about Blacks, at which point she threw him off the set.

Yet representatives of both shows deny Hilfiger ever appeared as a guest.

 

A 1999 article also carried denials from officials of the shows on which the incident is rumored to have taken place:

 

"Tommy Hilfiger has never appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show," said Audrey Pass, a spokeswoman for Winfrey. "Hilfiger's never appeared on CNN Style with Elsa Klensch," said Kathy Park of CNN.

Oprah herself did what she could to quell this slander. On Monday, 11 January 1999, she opened her show by adamantly denouncing the rumor, emphatically stating the following:

 

 

So I want to just set the record straight once and for all. The rumor claims that clothing designer Tommy Hilfiger came on this show and made racist remarks, and that I then kicked him out. I just want to say that is not true because it just never happened. Tommy Hilfiger has never appeared on this show. READ MY LIPS, TOMMY HILFIGER HAS NEVER APPEARED ON THIS SHOW. And all of [the] people who claim that they saw it, they heard it — it never happened. I've never even met Tommy Hilfiger.

Both Hilfiger and his company have steadfastly denied all forms of the rumor, and it has taken many. Depending on who you hear the whisper from, he slammed Asians, Filipinos or Blacks, on Oprah or Ricki Lake or BET News or Larry King Live or CNN — as a rumor, it's a marvel of non-specificity. According to a company statement posted to the Internet in March 1997:

 

Tommy Hilfiger did not make the alleged inappropriate racial comments. [. . .] Hilfiger wants his clothing to be enjoyed by people of all backgrounds and his collections are put together with the broadest cross-section of individuals in mind. To reinforce this, he features models of all ethnic backgrounds in his fashion shows and advertisements.

The company has answered the charges leveled against Hilfiger in its corporate FAQ, which very clearly states that not only didn't he say what's been ascribed to him, he's also never been on The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King Live, or CNN's Style with Elsa Klensch.

Cyberdenials or not, the rumor has legs. Earlier I mentioned it had been around at least nine months prior to its Internet explosion in late 1996. A March 1995 newspaper article noted:

 

 

Then there's the infamous disparaging "statement" the Parsons brothers and several others said they had heard that Hilfiger made about Blacks, particularly poor Blacks, wearing his clothes.

As with all rumors, there are several variations, and no one can say where or when Hilfiger made the comments. One woman said a friend heard him say it on BET News. A clerk at Burdines said he heard it was on the Ricki Lake show.

 

Hilfiger's being cast as a racist villain is especially unfortunate because his history as a designer shows him to be anything but. Adding color and movement to everyday clothes, his designs shot into popularity fueled by enthusiastic support from the Black community which adopted his fashion statements as its own. When Snoop Doggy Dogg wore a red, white, and blue Hilfiger rugby shirt on Saturday Night Live in March 1994, the word went out: Tommygear was cool. That was the same year the National Conference of Christians and Jews bestowed its National Humanitarian Award on the young designer. In 1995 Hilfiger was named Menswear Designer of the Year by the Council of Fashion Designers of America, and from there he's gone nowhere but up.

As immediately satisfying as it is to believe the old Liz Claiborne tale has updated itself by attaching to a newer, fresher designer, there's another likely explanation that must also be considered. As Hilfiger's clothing became more and more popular, it increasingly became a target for the Pacific Basin knock-off specialists. Hilfiger's statements that people should foreswear Asian or Filipino bootlegs of his clothes because cheap copies don't look good on anybody could easily have been misheard or misunderstood so that they were later remembered as statements to the effect that Asians or Filipinos themselves should not wear Hilfiger designs as they would make his clothes look bad.

[Thinkerman]

Hey i got it through my Email so thats my (somewhat late better than nothing ) Disclaimer , besides most designers have some Skeleton in the closet, be they Closet Hommo's or something else.

 

Thats why you would most likely see Shujui-1 Draped in the Finest Attire of Primarks (for us nomads thats Wal Mart standard clothing) than splashing out on D & G or Amani. That and the small matter of the Bottom Line Costs