From we are "duriiyaada" to we are D-r community the sad fate of the Jeegaan in Addis Ababa conference

[Saalax]

waxan oo baqdiin ah wa maxay?   

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Apophis said:

starts at 5:00

 

Cagjar spoke on this today, he said they are foreign agitators and not locals. 

There is nothing called D1r in 0gadenya

 

 

 

There was Oromia flags in the conference. So he is right besides  Addis Ababa is not a Somali city.

 

 

In this video they call the Borana community who are fighting the Somali Garre as "D-r" Wa yaab.

 

 

 

[Saalax]

The Gashaamo &  Daror districts community reject the Addis Ababa conference.

 

 

[galbeedi]

Saalax,

It is really wrong to characterize the D..r meeting in Addis as Jeegaan driven or Jeegaan related. It was the meeting of global D..r community from the horn of Africa.This elder from the Daroor is an exception to the general meeting here attended by large members from Gaashaamo and Daroor elders.

The Facebook propaganda is concentrating on Suldaan Hassan of West Hargeisa and others from the Jeegaan clan members but it was attended by more than 60 elders from every sub clan of the Habro. Opposing Muuse Biixi administration is one thing, but nixing  the gathering of the D..r to the internal Habro squabble is totally wrong. 

Odayga habarta la tus ma maqli jirtay.

We had people from Kenya (Turkaana, Wajeer, Nairobi), from Shabeelaha Hoose, Jubba and Banaadir which are strongholds of the D..r.  People came from  Somali state  mostly from Mooyaale, Harowo, Af Dheer region, Liibaan, Qoraxay, Diredhabe, Jarar  and between. They came from Ceerigaabo and Sanaag, from Awdal, Hargeisa, Europe, Canada, US and Djibouti.

Because of huge these land regions stretching from the Turkaana Kenya to Djibouti to Sanaag and Diredhaba,  this is by far the largest community of the Somali speaking people. These were people scared by the anti colonial conflicts of sixteen and nineteenth century in the horn.

As Ducaale said the SNM Habro are sitting within the Somali parliament as D..r designed by southern politicians. Reality speaking the  Is...q has always been D..r despite the different political names they used to further their agenda  for the last fifty years. As late as nineteenth century, some of the poems of the great poet Qamaan Bulhan stated:

Iddor Dir weeye haddu dulaan soo qaado.

The Addis affair was a D..r fest from beginning to the end. At the end , the delegates selected an elder council( Golaha dhaqanka Beesha D..r) . Seven members were selected. They elected as the first chairman  Suldaan C/raxman Jaamac Dhawal from Awdal. The rest of the elders were from west Burco, two from the diverse Diredhabe community, Shabeelaha Hoose, Mooyaale, Baabili  and a diaspora member to coordinate their next move. 

During these proceedings, not one single member ever mentioned Mustafe Cagjar of confronting other communities or speaking against anyone. It was all about unity , peace and creating a new environment of peace and coexistence with other communities. Yet, he is scared for no reason other than people finally looking for their rights and representation. For him to say , "Dadka shirka ka qayb galay  Fasax  igama qaadan" is both weakness and paranoia. 

 Unlike what people believe,  it was easy to call the names and celebrate the D..r groupings. The elders  knew who and where every community resided and which groupings they belonged. The Habro are members of the Mahe D..r which is related to Water Maal and others in Lower Shabbeelle. 

I know many D block and even later the Hag community will resist when the D..r community tries to dethrone them and bring the badly needed peace that is elusive in Southern Somalia. 

Mustafe was the one who brought the D block to Jigjiga and used the Somali state tax payers money to pay for the compensation of the Sool community conflict, yet there was war going on 30 kilometers between the D..r community Ja..so and the Giraaf guys. We didn't oppose that move since it was intended to bring peace to two brotherly communities. The Shir intends also to end the conflicts in Dire dhabe and Mooyaale . 

He did everything to stop the conference to take place. Three days before the conference he purposed to bring the Shir to Jigjiga which was impossible for the last minute. He told the owners of the convention center that if explosions or something bad happens with that  gathering , he will not be held responsible. He blocked most of the elders from Jigjiga area to attend the Shir. Yet all that had failed. The temporary deputy vice president who doesn't even have a legal status in his position should endorse the peaceful community gathering and hope for future progress. 

The absence of the D...r community from the political scene in South had negative impact on the sustaining of peaceful Somali state. We are intended to bring that balance of power back again. The greedy D block and the anarchist HAG had caused the suffering of millions of Somali people and I hope the D..r will take its role to reverse this problems and help save the Somali people from the useless duobaly  that had failed to move the state to the right direction.

I have nothing to say about  the state of Mogadishu and Farmaajo government. It just circling the wagon and everything is looks like 2014 again.

The Facebook is on fire since that Shir took place. There is no need to panic.

Of course the presence of the Habro should alarm many , but it shouldn't cause any problems from those in Daroor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Holac]

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The absence of the D...r community from the political scene in South had negative impact on the sustaining of peaceful Somali state.

Absolutely. It is time to bring an end to the political dominance of the failed Southern groups. Somalia needs a change of direction. It needs a great hero. 

[Duufaan]

I do not think no one has problem with a Dir meeting but why in Adis Ababa. They could have their meeting any place in the Somalia Pennsylvanian. This is probably sponsored by Ahmed Shidane and Abiya Ahmed. The Dir will be the tools, they need to divide he Somalis. This is also a different tactics, the one previous Ethiopian government and leaders use to, less satisfactions. Making Turkaanas Dir and Somalis, than we are all becoming a big Oromo nation.

[Saalax]

galbeedi no one has a problem with a authentic D-r  conference but saying things like "Borana wa D-r" and Oromo "D-r" counts as a treason against the Somali people.  The Oromos are the ones attacking Somali towns/villages day in and day out in Ethiopia and also trying to steal Moyaale.  Unless the D-r is about defending their lands against the Oromo horde rather than falling for Jeegaan tactics of dividing the divided Somalis further it will not amount to anything.Yaan laysku so dhumaan.  As the people of Daror & Gashaamo districts who are authentic Somalis we will sit this out. Borana wa Somali iyo afarahas kuma jirno.   

 

 

We captured many of those Oromos in the civil war in northern Somalia fighting alongside the Jeegaan.  Bal yaabkan eega maxa Macaa Oromo from Wellega zone of Oromia keenay Burco?   

 

 

 

 

[Saalax]

30 minutes ago, Duufaan said:

I do not think no one has problem with a Dir meeting but why in Adis Ababa. They could have their meeting any place in the Somalia Pennsylvanian. This is probably sponsored by Ahmed Shidane and Abiya Ahmed. The Dir will be the tools, they need to divide he Somalis. This is also a different tactics, the one previous Ethiopian government and leaders use to, less satisfactions. Making Turkaanas Dir and Somalis, than we are all becoming a big Oromo nation.

 

Yep that is the goal. At the end of the day those losing land after land to the so called Oromo at day and D-r in night are D-r themselves.  Big respect to the Garre of Moyaale though dhagaha bay ka garaceen the Oromo who tried to steal Moyaale. True Somalis. They need to be supported financially and in man power, Moyaale is important trading location. 

[Saalax]

2 hours ago, Holac said:

Absolutely. It is time to bring an end to the political dominance of the failed Southern groups. Somalia needs a change of direction. It needs a great hero. 

 

Ariintu siida mooday maha it has nothing to do with the federal government of Somalia politics.  In Somalia they already have 60  MPs no one is stopping them becoming a president there.  However the issue is being used by the Oromos to cause more division    in Somali region Somalis and weaker for Oromo expansion. In Ethiopia the Somalis must work on their own unity otherwise they will be swallowed up by other ethnic groups (Oromo, Amhara etc)  it is not like Somalia where they can afford disunity since there is no threat from non ethnic Somalis. 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

If the people want to have their conference  let them have their gathering.  Its a freeworld.

[maakhiri1]

I think D1r has to find its roots, calling every jack out there and inviting as d1r will be a lost opportunity.

This is conference was planned well ahead of Cagjar coming to picture.

[galbeedi]

Maakhiri,

You are correct. This conference was organized nine months ago. 

Certainly there are D..r community members who are bi-lingual and others who lost their roots long ago like the Boran. Yes, there were Oromo speaking D..r who live among the Oromo , yet they new who they were were accepted as Somalis who took that language, but over 99% of those who took part were the well known but scattered D..r groups around the region.

This was organized without Ahmed Shide, in fact some influential members of his subclan boycotted the conference. 

4 hours ago, Saalax said:

However the issue is being used by the Oromos to cause more division    in Somali region Somalis and weaker for Oromo expansion.

Somalis lost more land for the last 15 years while Somalis were in charge of their region. If strongman like Cabdi nIlley couldn't protect Somali territory , what makes you think a weak facebook and NGO guy like Mustafe will protect. Despite his crimes, Cabdi Illey made the Somali character of region to be felt in the political stage. The D..r want to have a peaceful co-existence with Oromo while building and developing their region. In order to survive , Cagjar even spent money to some Ahmara and Oromo mob few weeks to damage places of warship and cause trouble in Jigjiga falsely saying that the these people were demanding justice from Illey.

 

5 hours ago, Duufaan said:

They could have their meeting any place in the Somalia Pennsylvanian.

Cagjar will never allow a D..r Shir that is free and open without interference. Not single member of any government level had participated or influenced the outcome or what the people had to say. I know personally those who were writing the agenda of the conference, and no one other than the committee had interfered. A free Shir could have been possible only in Addis, Hargeisa or Nairobi. Cagjar is calling yesterday a new Shir for the elders in Goday and those who might not attend  not attend will be targeted as usual.

At the  second stage of the Shir , every region that is under distress mainly Southern Somalia and Somali killil will hold their own shir that is speciafically directed at them and others will assist them. The D..r political force coming to region with huge political muscle will strengthen the power and the legitimacy of the Somali regional government who is in disarray.

Since Somaliland is peaceful, there will not be any Shir about them although some delegates  pushed for recognition, yet Boqor Buurmadow explicitly proclaimed that the issue of Aqooni is an international and state issue that doesn't concern the D..r delegates.

For me it was an eye opening. It was the best networking trip I ever made without going to Mogadishu, Nairobi or even Hargeisa. I have met a former Kenyan parliament member and advisor to Raila Odinga; a D..r presidential candidate in Somalia in 2012; Cabiraxman Abuldqadir , former former Kulmiye party member based in Mogadishu; Boqor Buurmadow and many elders from Hargeisa, Burco  and Borama; delegates from Jubba and Lower Shabbelle; businessmen and politicians. A Garre businessman from Kenya had publicly donated a million dollar fror the next conference. We had parliamentarians  from central Somalia like Galgaduud, Hiiran and Lower Shabbele. Can you imagine more than 40%of Hiiraan is a D..r country. THey live in Gaalkacyo and Boosaaso in large numbers yet, do not have one single cabinet member.

Saalax, 

Certainly there were people with different agenda but at the end the intention was to bring people together and take advantage of the Ethiopia region which looks different since 1974. 

I had extensive debate with some of the elders especially those from South Hargeiisa , the sand dwellers,  who seemed to be the most well spoken and hardline on some of these issues. I tried to push my agenda and even proposed to take over the south by contributing  troops to the hot spots. I told them how poor dirt Burundi were flexing its muscle in Jowhar and middle Shabbelle while doing nothing but  collecting the dollars without leaving their barracks.  

One of the elders said : waar adeer adeer anagaa Puntland Ina Fatroole hadda ka hor u tagnay waxooga yar oo   yar adhi ah ayey qashaan ee waxba ma haystaan, kuwa Muqdisho joogina, gacal, iyo xigto midna kugu bixin maayaane , dalkiina maal gadshada idinkaa la idiin soo shaqaa tagi doonaaye. The arrogance of some of them was mind boggling, but were stasfied for what they achieved or what they have.

My approach might not be successful in the short term, but at the end, everyone understood that the issue of the South Somalia can't be watched as people bleed daily. A few corrupt politicians from Puntland and Unaka, alternated by Gedo boys to make it a littlele bit interesting will never resolve the Mogadishu quagmire. 

Some of the things that I found out also proves that we Somalis are more related than never before. The Somali clans are mixed and expropriated one another with huge numbers. We the Awdalites have a large OG members who are related to us. I met people who came from Qoraxay, and  at least four districts in Af Dheer region and Jarar whho are the sub clans of Ahmed SAmater. They are called those who forgot their Tol. Others from  river Shabbelle region , like the " Day travelers" are also from AWdal clans .They will tell you openly knowing their lineage. Just like D&M, the OG community is calso a mix of different clans.

Someone told us thhat the  Abdalle group in Gaarisa to be Awdalites. Some members of the Awdal community who fled out of Mogadishu in 1991 were welcomed in Gaarisa, Kenya and had been told the story of the connection. Mind you that we have a town called Gaarisa in the coastal region of Awdal near Zaylac, which means that  the great Kenyan Somali politician Farah Macalin is one of our own. 

These and many other connections make you feel that despite our " Xadhig Jeed" and antagonism , we are related to one another, and must find a large umbrella that can accommodate all. 

Dulmigu wuu dhamaadaa , laakiin cadaaladu waligeedba way waartaa.

Folks do not fear the new D...r. Besides, the HAG and the D block had lost all credibility to criticise anyone. 

Sodan sano ayaanu ka dhaqaaqi la' nahay.

 

 

[Barwaaqo]

Mahadsanid Dr Oodweyne, aragtidda Aqoonyahankaan sugayey balse way ii muuqatay shirka muhiimadiisu.

Meel aan rabay roob ma iigu da’ay.

[Saalax]

Oodweyne don't lie about the Gashaamo and Daror community. There is no interest in them following  Jeegaan nonsense. They will look after their interest only. Maxa naga dhaxeeya Borana iyo Turkana? bal waalidan eega. A man who jumps from "duriiyaada" to "D-r"  calling someone sheegato is the irony here  wixi ku dhalayba ma taqaniid.   

 

Like I said yaan laysku so dhumaan. The common agenda of seccessonists (Jeegaan) and Oromo hiding behind "D-r" is their hatred for Somalis and the Somali  nation. 

 

As for Boqor Faysal he is one of the most respected elders of Sanaag and overall GX. He knows his stuff.

 

[Saalax]

@galbeedi in Somalia we have the same policy  (the deputy PM is from my community while the finance minister is from your communit).  In Ethiopia too. However  if the D-r pretenders try to support Somaliland secessionism (which is what Jeegaanta are running after) the political alliance won't work.   So lets just keep it  Somalia and Somali region issues.