Old_Observer Posted February 22, 2019 There is one item that is new which the Djibouti and Ethiopian officials were always careful in using, almost never used. The two countries (Amharic version) two parties English is no where close. Those who translated to English must have found it impossible to translate as it is which is related to territories and not governments. Countries/nations is actually the correct and only translation. Hagerat/countries. Wegenotch/sides. The two sides discussed the relationship between their countries is what it says. 2nd point is: They agreed to work closely in the future in a bilateral and multilateral formats. This is where the unity of East afrrica is mentioned and the conclusion is either Ethiopia and Somaliland bilaterally or with others inclused multilaterally. 3rd point is: Zonal security and businesses and border transits remains the same as it always have been for the last 3 decades. I have a good information in this area, that the Ethiopian federal government wants to deal directly with Somaliland to undermine Kililka from being the gatekeeper that was started under Illey and was considered dangerous by other Ethiopians. One wealthy Oromo businessman also mentioned in an interview that focusing on Berbera is the best option in any eventuality. If Somalia gets back together nothing lost, but if not then will be stuck with Mugadishu and considering the other name for Kililka are in between it may even be more dangerous for Ethiopian businesses. comment. Abiy has been blamed by his army and security that the relationship with people in SW has been damaged. A relationship that started in 1992/3 and 1996 times. It should not be repeated in Puntland and Somaliland. Everything is being restored the way it was before all the coffee sittings and dancing of Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea. Internal problems in Ethiopia is the main reason for this. . 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 22, 2019 Abiye Axmed thinks Somaliland and somalia conflict is as small and can be resolved by talks. He is still in the mode of Eritrean Ethiopian conflict which he resolved partly by trying to give back badme to afewerqi. Somaliland and Somalia case is much deeper. Both somalia failed government a TFG TNG iyo ilma tuugo koonfurians oo dhan. Somalia bunker government in xalane. Has bigger issues shabaab jihadist the failed 2021 elections. Kheyre iyo hebel cheesena meesha lacag urursi bay uyimadeen. Ina biiixi will not meet with farmaajo and has no interest to hold talks with failed govt led by amisom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted February 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Old_Observer said: There is one item that is new which the Djibouti and Ethiopian officials were always careful in using, almost never used. The two countries (Amharic version) two parties English is no where close. Those who translated to English must have found it impossible to translate as it is which is related to territories and not governments. Countries/nations is actually the correct and only translation. Hagerat/countries. Wegenotch/sides. The two sides discussed the relationship between their countries is what it says. 2nd point is: They agreed to work closely in the future in a bilateral and multilateral formats. This is where the unity of East afrrica is mentioned and the conclusion is either Ethiopia and Somaliland bilaterally or with others inclused multilaterally. 3rd point is: Zonal security and businesses and border transits remains the same as it always have been for the last 3 decades. I have a good information in this area, that the Ethiopian federal government wants to deal directly with Somaliland to undermine Kililka from being the gatekeeper that was started under Illey and was considered dangerous by other Ethiopians. One wealthy Oromo businessman also mentioned in an interview that focusing on Berbera is the best option in any eventuality. If Somalia gets back together nothing lost, but if not then will be stuck with Mugadishu and considering the other name for Kililka are in between it may even be more dangerous for Ethiopian businesses. comment. Abiy has been blamed by his army and security that the relationship with people in SW has been damaged. A relationship that started in 1992/3 and 1996 times. It should not be repeated in Puntland and Somaliland. Everything is being restored the way it was before all the coffee sittings and dancing of Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea. Internal problems in Ethiopia is the main reason for this. . This is the official post from the Office of Prime Minister twitter.Are you telling me Abiy can't read English? Somaliland is clearly defined as "administration" aka mamuul goboleed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Saalax said: This is the official post from the Office of Prime Minister twitter.Are you telling me Abiy can't read English? Somaliland is clearly defined as "administration" aka mamuul goboleed. I did not translate wishes, expectations or face books, only the official statement from the government of Ethiopia: Verbatim the two sides discussed the relationship between their countries. That is it. If you go further you find a lot that is not mentioned by name specifically but if they say trade, if they say security between the two sides...you know what it means. They will work the same way as it has been except on the Ethiopian side some things will change. The change is that the Illey regime had near free hand in its relations with Somaliland, Djibouti and Puntland. The Agijar regime will have less and the Ethiopian federal government will do more with Somaliland, Djibouti, Puntland..etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Saalax said: This is the official post from the Office of Prime Minister twitter.Are you telling me Abiy can't read English? Somaliland is clearly defined as "administration" aka mamuul goboleed. I think you have read this as well from Hiiran. _______________________________________________ Somaliland president, Ethiopia PM hold trade talks in Addis Busiweek Friday February 22, 2019 Talks on improving trade between Somaliland and Ethiopia took centre stage when the leaders of the two countries meet in Addis Ababa. Somaliland President Muse Bihi arrived in Ethiopia on Wednesday afternoon on invitation from the Ethiopia Prime Minister Dr Abiy Ahmed. A statement from Somaliland presidency media stated the two leaders talked about trade, ports utilization and other economic ties and security cooperation. Other issues involved resumption of the talks between Somaliland and Somalia and other regional issues in the Horn of Africa, including the historic rapprochement between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Ethiopia and Somaliland have entered into several trade agreements which the two leaders will be discussing. The expansion of the Port of Berbera, a strategic installation between Somaliland and Ethiopia which is being rebuilt by a Dubai company DP World was part the talks as well as the planned building of the Berbera corridor linking the two countries. According to deal announced late last year, Ethiopia will hold a 19 per cent shareholder in the Port of Berbera, with DP World controlling 51 per cent stake in the project and Somaliland holding the remaining 30 per cent. The Ethiopian government is also investing in infrastructure to develop the Berbera Corridor as a trade gateway for the landlocked nation, which is one of the fastest growing countries in the world with forecast GDP growth of 8.2 per cent in 2018, according to the World Bank. The ground-breaking event is set for February 28 in Berbera. Billion-dollar trade Ethiopia gains up to US$1 billion in trade with Somaliland. According to political analysts, Ethiopia is Somalilands biggest trading partner in the region. “The geographical and socio-economic proximity makes Somaliland the second largest trade client, with Ethiopia gaining 900million dollars yearly in trade. These factors, combined with the potential benefit of landlocked Ethiopia from Somaliland’s coastal access and the twice-daily flights from Addis to Hargeisa, show just how intertwined the fates of Somaliland and Ethiopia are in the long run,” stated Mohammed Mohamoud Barawani, a political commentator from Somaliland. Ethiopia has gone far in recognising Somaliland in practical terms but not formally. Ethiopian recognises Somalilander passports and currency. Somalilander representatives “are received with all the diplomatic niceties that any minister or head of state gets, with the exception of a flying flag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites