Stand Up and Be Counted - Nomad-UK

[Sharmarkee]

Salaam,

 

Stand up and be counted

Nomads in UK

 

Why our votes don’t work for us?

 

Why we don’t consolidate our votes and make a deal with likes of LibDem party, as far as we have a very high unemployed graduates with a very important skills to contribute politically which in return benefit our community lets us make a move into that direction ….. coming out from this isolation and ghetto.

 

Tony Blair was wolf in sheep'skin, he was waging war due his Christian values and his crusading beliefs(he publicly said so in today's Parkinson's interview, see the news), while Tories basically are BNP in blue coats, let us vote systemically for Liberal Democrats.

 

I think we need to help and vote for this Anti-war old-horse Meng Campabell and his party, so those with a good qualifications, in politics, public speaking also commanding high level of communication skills, or those in law and economics this is your chance to show your true Geeljirenimo colours, a ruthless a geeljire or geel jirato by working with this Party at the end we gonna get something, a consular, or MP, but still it doesn't matter even if you start on the grassroot level with good salary

 

C’mon what you say Nomads?

[Viking]

Sharmarkee,

Don't you think the values of a liberal party like Lib-Dems might be irreconcillable with Islamic doctrines?

[Sharmarkee]

Salaam,

 

Viking,

 

Not in million years maybe but as we live in here, what are we going to do ... Just watch? or take part and try to influence for our own benefits maybe, imagine the power of suggestion when you have a friends in high places, I think it will make a difference, as we know also we didn't done well in back home for social justice's sake, I assume we cannot be refugees for so long … it’s not good for our mental health, let us try if we can take part, and promote at least equality and partnership in education and employment for our community, and for our neighbourhood, I for one am not into politics neither don't have any idea about politics, but trying to encourage incase there is anyone out there going for it and with Credentials and unemployed at the moment, I am sure I make my support ready for him or her, whichever way I can.

[Khayr]

Originally posted by Sharmarkee:

Salaam,

 

Viking,

 

Not in million years maybe but as we live in here, what are we going to do ... Just watch? or take part and try to influence for our own benefits maybe, imagine the power of suggestion when you have a friends in high places, I think it will make a difference, as we know also we didn't done well in back home for social justice's sake, I assume we cannot be refugees for so long … it’s not good for our mental health, let us try if we can take part, and promote at least equality and partnership in education and employment for our community, and for our neighbourhood, I for one am not into politics neither don't have any idea about politics, but trying to encourage incase there is anyone out there going for it and with Credentials and unemployed at the moment, I am sure I make my support ready for him or her, whichever way I can.

Economic Prowse is what counts, saxib. Those who have it, yield influence in the political spectrum.

[JUSTICE]

how can u persuade somalis in UK to be part of the politics world if all they talk about is that they don't belong here, they belong there in Somalia.

[Castro]

^ Good point. Those who're in the west wish they were back home and those back home pray day and night that they make it to the west. It's as if the wrong ones made it out here.

 

Originally posted by Viking:

Sharmarkee,

Don't you think the values of a liberal party like Lib-Dems might be irreconcillable with Islamic doctrines?

Do you? And if yes, what do you propose instead of what Sharmarke suggests? I would like to hear you expand on this, good Viking, and I'm not being facetious.

[Baluug]

Originally posted by Castro:

^ Good point. Those who're in the west wish they were back home and those back home pray day and night that they make it to the west. It's as if the wrong ones made it out here.

They most likely realized that the "West" is not as great and beautiful like they thought it would. "Freedom", they found out, means freedom to do whatever you want, and that includes some of the most disgusting and appalling behaviour thought of by the human mind. I really sympathize with Somali people in that they can't really stay home, while at the same time can't see the western world as a great place they would think of staying in for the rest of their lives. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place, and for that, we can blame the warlords, who will receive their recompense for what they have done from Allah SWT, just like the rest of us.

[Wiilo]

I guess this appllies only to UK Somalis....I'm out.............

 

 

Go figure:...............

[Castro]

Originally posted by Mr. Jibis:

They most likely realized that the "West" is not as great and beautiful like they thought it would. "Freedom", they found out, means freedom to do whatever you want, and that includes

some of the most disgusting and appalling behaviour thought of by the human mind.

Mr. Jibis, thank you for your sympathy because we need it. If I may bring your attention, however, to some of the most digusting and appalling behavior thought of by the human mind. No, I'm not thinking men shagging men, goats or even cats, I'm thinking of cold-blooded murder; rape of innocent girls, women and even the elderly; terrorizing hunderds of thousands even millions of people for decades. That's more appalling to me than, say, my neighbor who likes to shag his pet rabbit. What say you saaxib?

 

I'm not being hostile saaxib but we just need to put things in perspective. If sins carried points (as does the immigration system in Canada, e.g.), I'd say taking an innocent life carries more weight than say shagging a bird, would you agree? We have a great faith but terrible lands and the west has no faith with great lands. I think we Muslims in the west got the best of both worlds, don't you think?

 

P.S. And how could I forget the most appalling (in my opinion) of these crimes in the homeland: throwing men, women and children who can't swim and with no life-jackets off boats on the high seas in the middle of the night. Killing one of those people is like killing all of humanity. Forget shagging rodents, saaxib, what's going on back home is beyond words.

[Laba-X]

If I may bring your attention, however, to some of the most digusting and appalling behavior thought of by the human mind. No, I'm not thinking men shagging men, goats or even cats, I'm thinking of cold-blooded murder; rape of innocent girls, women and even the elderly; terrorizing hunderds of thousands even millions of people for decades. That's more appalling to me than, say, my neighbor who likes to shag his pet rabbit. What say you saaxib?

 

...You've described what goes on in the west quite well Oday castro!

[Sharmarkee]

Salaam,

Originally posted by Khayr:

Economic Prowse is what counts, saxib. Those who have it, yield influence in the political spectrum.

Khayr,

 

Not necessarily economic prowse,well and good if the money is there,but at moment just the begining our vote and a little voluntry work will do the trick, till we gain a ground, my guess

 

Wiilo,

 

Let us learn from you something, I gather you're from Minnesota, or Toronto, I guess we need your experience of organising a hapless community,folks!

[Viking]

Originally posted by Castro:

quote:Originally posted by Viking:

Sharmarkee,

Don't you think the values of a liberal party like Lib-Dems might be irreconcillable with Islamic doctrines?

Do you? And if yes, what do you propose instead of what Sharmarke suggests? I would like to hear you expand on this, good Viking, and I'm not being facetious.

Castro,

I was just wondering because liberal parties are more radical when seen from the spectacles of a Muslim (vehemently support homosexuality, abortion, supports privatisation of i.e. healthcare etc). Of the three major parties in the UK, maybe LibDem is not the best option because of its position on the political scale. I would think that Labour, being almost centre-right would be the best option in the UK, but the political parties in the UK and in most western countries are today so similar that there is very little that sets them apart. But on the other hand, Labour has turned out to be more right-wing than the Conservatives themselves.

 

If one was in Germany maybe the best party to support would have been the CDU because they are a Christian party that would presumably hold some similar views as Islam. On the other hand, leftist parties often have positions that most Muslims would find appealing. There isn't much to choose from in the UK for a MUslim, one is left to choose between small pox, plague and cholera, so to speak.

 

 

In Sweden, there were about six parties in parliament from across the political scale and therefore Muslims have more to choose from. I always went with the Leftist party or the Greens because they questionned the hegemony of USA and didn't support them blindly (they were against GITMO and the invasion of Iraq), they supported the Palestinians, called for fairer trade with the poorer countries etc etc. But the parties in the UK are so similar that the only which sets them apart seems to be whether there should be top-up fees in uni or not, hopefully a nomad who is more familiar with UK politics can shed some light on this issue.

[Baashi]

That's right Sharma-arke. We minorities need to stand up for our causes and participate in elections. Multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, and multi-religious society such as the UK have divergent interests and those who don't stand up for themselves and demand better treatment will simply be disappionted.

 

Get organized and get your demands heard.

[Blessed]

The SCC, Somali Coordinating Committee that deals with this issue. I'll try and find their contacts for you or maybe one of the Nomads involved can help you out....

[Sharmarkee]

Salaam,

 

Blessed,

 

Mighty heroine in our midst, aka Barwaaqo-Blessed, thanks very much for your consideration for that help, in fact while the target audience in SOL don’t show any interest, still the project must go ahead, although the leading Wadaado having there doubts and the whole project is under scrutiny regarding in the “Fiqh Adaqiiqâ€, and under “Fiqh almanhajiâ€, we still trying to push the project to go ahead, so accepting all your help and any tools in the locker to meet the targets is a must in our books,and if we need to succeed,and chase deadlines.

 

Baashi,

 

Well well, put your hands together for your roving columnist in your esteem journal Waxa-La-yari , he won’t be reporting from aroos parties in a Mutulee makeshifts, and single-mum habitats, mafrish, and star bucks cafés and similar dire places anymore, surely he will relay the news from the corridors of power pretty soon. And that will be a great honour to you as the chief-editor, and will put you ahead in the game, and double your readers, the circulation will be sky-rocketed in a short time of period...

 

Justice,

 

Yeah, the nomad in us want nothing else but just to undone the tent, pack up and off we go, to another lush green valley, I don’t know his name of this Somali song writer, but what he said is a reflection of our Psychic historically and our present time:

 

Lalabaha hayaankiyo

Lugtu socod mad day see

Wax layga baaqa

Loolida garduuree

 

 

 

Wa Salaam