The Plot Narrows. Murder in Dubai !!!

[Ibtisam]

^^This thread is not about Somalis though Ngonge, :confused:

[Rayyan]

Originally posted by Dhagax-Tuur:

Isn't time for Hamas to use the wider muslim community of all races and western passports as spies to counter the Israeli onslaught?

 

3 Irish pass holders, 6 British pass holders and God knows how many more.

 

The foiled Dimishiq assassination of Mr Mashal carried by Canadian pass holders.

 

Come on, Hamas! There are plenty of Falastinians with Western passports who would probably be willing to take on these sort of assignments, if the rest of the Ummah are not ready to....

 

Let the game of cat and mouse begin..

I think arabs and muslims wash their hands off Palestinans in General and Hamas in Particular, see what happend on Gaza, a few westerns baa u cid ah iyo Galloway. No one in vicintiy needs Islamic majority goverment, and that is reality at the heart of the Islamic birthplace.

 

Just mention Iran and everybody is in the bandwagon.... Iwonder where is Madam Rice? to sort out this mess.lol

[NGONGE]

Originally posted by *Ibtisam:

^^This thread is not about Somalis though Ngonge, :confused:

Dee you said this:

 

“Emiratization” program was by default aimed at Palestinian and Lebanese skilled workers only rather than all foreigners- they don't mind low unskilled workers or white expensive ones either.

 

Keep up will ya..

[Ibtisam]

^^^Palestinians work as engineers, instructors and in technology-related professions, hence numberwise at least it seems/reported they were hit the worst by the program. Others started their own businesses such as Arab-Tech (I think they are gone bust now). Hence why I said by default; the jobs that the nationals wanted these guys were sitting on. Palestinians much like the Iraqis and Lebanese generally are highly skilled with long years of experience in their respective fields.

 

 

In any case I can see xadko ayaad isku heesa eh say what ever you got to say before you choke on it.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

The best CCTV video clip is from Golf News. This clip details the story minute by minute.

 

http://video.gulfnews.com/services/player/bcpid4267205001?bctid=66672644001

 

 

Dubai is a highly sophisticated city and the evidence left behind by the killers would be embarrassing to any respectable secret agency. If it is confirmed that these amateurs were indeed Mossad agents, it is a game changer. Mossad's mythical infallibility will be no more.

 

Let us see where this movie ends.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Mossad had committed a major blunder

 

NEW YORK TIMES

 

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Foreign-born Israelis named as part of an Israeli hit squad denied Tuesday any involvement in the assassination of a top Hamas militant in Dubai and said their identities had been hijacked.

 

Seven of 11 suspects named by Dubai in the slaying of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh last month were said to live in Israel, suggesting the Mossad had committed a major blunder, if it turned out that Israel was indeed involved in the attack.

 

One of the suspects, reached by Reuters on the telephone, denied any involvement in the killing, calling himself the victim of an identity theft.

 

"I am obviously angry, upset and scared," Melvyn Adam Mildiner, a British immigrant to Israel, said in British-accented English.

 

Mildiner of Beit Shemesh, near Jerusalem, said he had nothing to do with the assassination and had never been to Dubai.

 

"I don't know how this happened or who chose my name or why, but hopefully we'll find out soon," said Mildiner, a technical writer after Israeli newspapers splashed names and photos of the suspects distributed in Dubai.

 

"I have my passport. It is in my house, along with the passports of everybody else in my family, and there's no Dubai stamps in it because I've never been to Dubai," Mildiner said.

 

Three other men on Dubai's list offered similar accounts to Israeli television stations and Web sites. Most shared a profile of having immigrated to Israel from English-speaking countries and had dual national identities.

 

"I don't know what to say. It's a mistaken or stolen identity, it's not me, that's for sure," Michael Lawrence Barney said in a televised interview in which his face wasn't shown.

 

Stephen Hodes, another recent immigrant to the Jewish state, said: "I am in total shock. I don't know how they reached me. The photographs are not of me, of course...I'm mortified."

 

FAKE OR STOLEN IDENTITIES?

 

Dubai said it issued international arrest warrants for all suspects, who also include German and French passport holders. A government source said six other people, not yet identified, were also believed to be involved.

 

As the mystery over suspects' identities deepened, Britain and Ireland said they believed British and Irish passports which Dubai alleged were used by members of the hit squad -- whose photographs were released by the emirate -- were fake.

 

"This was a case of identity theft and it puts the operation in Dubai in a very amateur light. If the intent was to hide the perpetrators' identities, why direct a finger at Israelis?," Channel 10 television's security reporter, Alon Ben-David, said.

 

A security source in Israel said the target, Mabhouh, played a key role in smuggling Iranian-funded arms to Islamist militants in the Gaza Strip. Hamas confirmed the information.

 

Hit squads dispatched by Israel's Mossad spy agency have used foreign passports in the past, notably in 1997 when agents entered Jordan on Canadian passports and bungled an attempt to kill Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal with poison.

 

Mossad is widely believed to have stepped up covert missions against Hamas, Lebanon's Hezbollah militia and Iran's nuclear project. Among killings attributed to Mossad were that of Hezbollah commander Imad Moughniyeh in Damascus two years ago.

 

In the most recent publicized case linking the Mossad to foreign identity papers, two suspected Israeli agents were jailed in New Zealand in 2005 for obtaining that country's passports illegally.

 

In 1987, Britain protested to Israel about what London called the misuse by Israeli authorities of forged British passports and said it received assurances steps had been taken to prevent future occurrences.

 

(Additional reporting by Dan Williams; Sophie Taylor in Paris; Estelle Shirbon in London; Andras Gergely in Dublin; Sabine Siebold in Berlin; Cynthia Johnston and Firouz Sedarat and Tamara Walid)

 

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/02/16/world/international-us-uae-hamas-israel.html

[N.O.R.F]

^That was like watching a movie. Great Police work though.

 

Allah yarxamhu.

 

Ibti, stop hanging around with Asians

[General Duke]

The blame game starts. "it was not me" won't do.

[General Duke]

Hallmarks of a classic Israeli operation

 

By Ben Lynfield in Jerusalem

REX FEATURES

 

Was Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency, behind the assassination in Dubai? Israel had the strongest motive to kill Mr Mabhouh, and a series of declarations by former Mossad staff yesterday admiring the '"professionalism" of the hit certainly point in that direction.

 

 

Mossad, which in Hebrew stands for the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations, is in charge of overseas espionage and covert operations. The agency's modus operandi has in the past included audacious overseas sting operations such as the plot to seize Mordechai Vanunu, the man who revealed Israel's nuclear secrets to the British press. An Israeli female agent called Cindy was the "honey trap" who lured Vanunu on a romantic assignation to Rome, from where he was taken to Israel for trial.

 

But Mossad has had its share of failures, including a bungled attempt to assassinate Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal in 1997, after which two agents carrying forged Canadian passports were arrested in Amman.

 

Surveillance videos shown by the Dubai police indicate that the 11 suspects achieved remarkable penetration. They were in and out of Dubai in less than 19 hours

 

A former operative said the operation appeared meticulously planned and executed. "This was super-, super-professional." he said.

 

"It seems logical that this was a Mossad operation." he said. It would not be surprising, he added, if other "positively inclined" countries had helped Israel. Egypt, which shares Israel's animosity to Hamas, may also have been involved he said.

 

The former Mossad agent said strangulation could have been used to avoid the risk of bringing a firearm into the country. It was not unusual to have such a large number of people involved in the slaying, he said. "Considering you have surveillance, security and a rescue force this is a reasonable number."

 

Yossi Melman, author of a history of the Israeli intelligence service, said: "MI6 or the CIA would do the same. Disguises, fictitious names, arriving from different directions, taking flights in a circuitous way, changing clothes – all these are the trademarks of a professional intelligence organisation." But another former Mossad agent, Rami Yigal, said it "does not look like an Israeli operation" because of careless shortcuts such as allowing members of the team to be taped by hotel or airport CCTV in Dubai.

 

Nevertheless, Israel considered Mr Mabhouh the key person in the smuggling of weaponry from Iran to Hamas in the Gaza Strip. It also had a longstanding account with him since he boasted of killing two Israeli soldiers Ilan Saadon and Avi Sasportas in 1989.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

REUTERS: Mossad tripped up by underestimating Arab counter-espionage capabilities

 

(Reuters) - The quiet assassination of a Hamas commander gets unexpectedly messy. Exposed and forced to atone before angry allies, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu orders the spymaster responsible to fall on his sword.

 

That was in 1997, when the Mossad director resigned after his men botched the poisoning of Khaled Meshaal in Jordan. Now premier a second time, Netanyahu faces a similar crisis over the death of another Hamas figure, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, in Dubai.

 

Israel's official silence on the January 20 killing has been outpaced, in the popular imagination, by UAE police footage of the suspected assassins and revelations some of them had copied the European passports of actual immigrants to the Jewish state.

 

The idea that the Mossad, having long cultivated a reputation for lethally outwitting Israel's foes abroad, this time tripped up by underestimating Arab counter-espionage capabilities prompted commentators to demand a public reckoning.

 

Special scrutiny was devoted to Mossad director Meir Dagan, an ex-general now in his eighth year of service and praised by Israeli leaders for spearheading a "shadow war" against Hamas, Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas, and Iran's nuclear program.

 

Amir Oren of the liberal Haaretz daily went as far as to call for Dagan to be fired, describing him as "belligerent, heavy-handed" and predicting a row with Britain, Ireland, France and Germany -- the countries whose passports were used.

 

"Even if whoever carried out the assassination does reach some kind of arrangement with the infuriated Western nations, it still has an obligation to its own citizens," Oren wrote.

 

Several of the foreign-born Israelis who said their identities had been stolen for the Mabhouh assassination voiced fear they could now be vulnerable to murder prosecutions.

 

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman did not deny Mossad involvement in Mabhouh's death but tried to deflect attention, implying in a radio interview that "some other intelligence service or another country" may have had a role.

 

Israel's allies recognize "that our security activity is conducted according to very clear, cautious and responsible rules of the game," Lieberman asserted.

 

UNNATURAL CAUSES

 

Other pundits disagreed about the diplomatic price that could be exacted from Israel, which is already fending off foreign criticism of the hundreds of Palestinian civilian deaths during its offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip last year.

 

But there was little arguing the fact that Hamas had turned the tables on Mabhouh's assassins by insisting UAE police launch a murder investigation after they initially ruled that his death, in a Dubai hotel room, had been of natural causes.

 

"What began as a heart attack turned out to be an assassination, which led to a probe, which turned into the current passport affair," wrote Yoav Limor in Israel Hayom, a pro-government newspaper.

 

"It is doubtful whether this is the end of the affair."

 

Israelis generally rally around the Mossad's two-fisted image -- honed back in the 1970s, when the agency hunted down and killed Palestinians blamed for a deadly raid on Israel's Olympic delegation at the Munich Games.

 

But the Mabhouh hit underscored the difficulties spies must contend with in the digital era, with ubiquitous high-resolution CCTV coverage and easily accessed passport databases.

 

"What happens in the modern world, the cameras everywhere -- it changes things not just for those whose trade is terror but also those trying to fight terror," former Mossad officer Ram Igra told Israel's Army Radio.

 

The UAE is holding two Palestinians accused of helping Mabhouh's assassins. Should they finger Israel, it will deepen the questions about Mossad tradecraft and operational security.

 

Mabhouh had masterminded the abduction and killing of two Israeli troops in 1989 and, more recently, the smuggling of Iranian-funded arms to Gaza. The attempted discretion of his killing indicated the assassins were not on a vendetta but, rather, trying to eliminate what they saw as a current threat.

 

Yet the possibility that the Mossad had so quickly come undone led Yossi Melman, author of two books on the intelligence agency, to suggest such assassinations would not be repeated.

 

Melman said a wider question would be also raised: "Does Israel's assassinations policy pay off?"

 

The 1997 attempted assassination in Amman, by two Mossad officers posing as Canadian tourists, unwittingly boosted Meshaal's status in Hamas. Netanyahu was also forced to free the Islamist faction's jailed spiritual leader, Ahmed Yassin.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61G2PF20100217

[Abtigiis]

Hamas should have placed spies in the hotel where they knew their key man was to stay. If they did so, it is unlikely all those movements in and out of the hotel wouldn't have been picked up.

 

Still, I think the killers were professionals. The victim seemed suspicious when he was going to his room. Allah yarxam.

[General Duke]

Gordon Brown pledges inquiry as Israel refuses to rule out Mossad plot in Dubai

 

International row deepens over use of fake UK passports as Israeli foreign minister fails to deny Mossad involvement

 

 

Gordon Brown today stepped into the growing international row over the alleged use of fake passports by the assassins of a Hamas leader in Dubai by promising a full investigation.

 

As demands were made for the Israeli ambassador to be summoned to the Foreign Office to answer allegations that its Mossad security service was behind the assassination, the prime minister told London's LBC radio station: "We are looking at this at this very moment. We have got to carry out a full investigation into this. The British passport is an important document that has got to be held with care.

 

"The evidence has got to be assembled about what has actually happened and how it happened and why it happened, and it is necessary for us to accumulate that evidence before we can make statements."

 

Earlier, the Israeli foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, broke his government's silence saying there was no proof that Mossad was behind the killing.

 

However, he did not explicitly deny any Israeli involvement, saying his government had a "policy of ambiguity" on intelligence issues.

 

"I don't know why we take it for granted that it was Israel or Mossad that used those passports or the identities of that British citizen, yes or no. It's just not correct. Why are we in such a hurry to take all kinds of tasks upon ourselves?" Lieberman told Israel's Army Radio.

 

He was speaking after details in the case began to point back to Israel. Seven Israelis with dual foreign citizenship, six of them apparently Britons and one American, had their identities stolen to be used in the forged passports relied on by the suspected assassins. The seven, who appear unconnected, have denied any involvement in the affair and say they have no idea how their identities were stolen.

 

Dubai police released on Monday the passport details of 11 people – six from Britain, three from Ireland and one each from France and Germany – that they said were behind the killing of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, who was murdered in his Dubai hotel room last month.

 

The New York Times reported this morning that the hit team included a total of 17 people, six of whom had not yet been identified.

 

Some Israeli commentators delivered the first criticisms of Mossad today , saying the operation was beginning to look like a blunder. One even called on the Mossad chief, Meir Dagan, to resign and suggested the incident could provoke a diplomatic row with Britain over the use of forged British passports.

 

 

Sir Menzies Campbell, the former Liberal Democrat leader who is also a member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said Israel's ambassador in the UK should be summoned to the Foreign Office immediately.

 

"If the Israeli government was party to behaviour of this kind it would be a serious violation of trust between nations," he said. "If legitimate British passport holders were put at risk it would be a disgrace. Given the current speculation, the Israeli government has some explaining to do and the ambassador should be summoned to the Foreign Office to do so in double-quick time."

 

A Tory MP, Hugo Swire, chairman of the Conservative Middle East council, also demanded a "full investigation".

 

In 1987, Britain protested to Israel about what it said was the misuse by Israeli authorities of forged British passports and said it received assurances steps had been taken to prevent future occurrences.

 

 

But Lieberman said he believed that relations with Britain would not be damaged. "I think Britain recognises that Israel is a responsible country and that our security activity is conducted according to very clear, cautious and responsible rules of the game. Therefore we have no cause for concern," he said.

 

Rafi Eitan, a former Israeli minister and intelligence officer, told Army Radio that Mossad was not behind the killing and that a foreign organisation was trying to frame Israel.

 

There was a mixture of praise and criticism of the Mossad in the Israeli press. Yossi Melman, a respected security correspondent for Ha'aretz, said the agency had used forged passports on operations in the past and noted that in this case all the "operatives" involved in the assassination left Dubai safely without being caught.

 

"As such, unless dramatic evidence is found to definitively prove an Israeli connection, it is likely that the State of Israel will emerge from this affair unblemished and Mossad will continue enjoying a reputation of fearless determination and nearly unstoppable capabilities," Melman wrote.

 

However, another Ha'aretz columnist, Amir Oren, said there were now "enormous question marks" over the operation and said the Mossad chief, Meir Dagan, who he described as "belligerent and heavy-handed," should resign. He said the case would likely bring a diplomatic crisis for Israel and added: "Even if whoever carried out the assassination does reach some kind of arrangement with the infuriated western nations, it still has an obligation to its own citizens."

 

Ben Caspit, in the Ma'ariv newspaper, described the incident as "a tactical operational success, but a strategic failure". "When it becomes apparent that the passports belong to innocent Israeli citizens, who will now be subject to an international manhunt by Interpol, the embarrassment is great," he wrote.

 

In Austria, the interior ministry said it had launched an investigation into the suspected use of at least seven mobile phones with pre-paid Austrian chips by Mabhouh's killers. The killers reportedly never made direct phone calls to each other but dialled into a communications centre in Austria - described by Dubai as the "command centre" for the operation.

[B]

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte:

The best CCTV video clip is from Golf News. This clip details the story minute by minute.

 

http://video.gulfnews.com/services/player/bcpid4267205001?bctid=66672644001

 

 

Dubai is a highly sophisticated city and the evidence left behind by the killers would be embarrassing to any respectable secret agency. If it is confirmed that these amateurs were indeed Mossad agents, it is a game changer. Mossad's mythical infallibility will be no more.

 

Let us see where this movie ends.

The Dubai police have done an excellent job in mapping out the killing.

[Castro]

Originally posted by Benson and Hedges:

The Dubai police have done an excellent job in mapping out the killing.

LOL. The perfect distraction from the Goldstone report and the murder of 1400 women and children. You really believe the Dubai "police" are this good and the Mossad would drop the ball so badly?

 

That clip (probably produced by memri tv) plays like a soap opera.

[General Duke]

^^^Mossad made a mistake in Jordan back in 1997, that is still talked about, thus this can be the same case, though do they care? No, they took out their target.